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Scrubbles poptalk.scrubbles.tech scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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#52 · Quote Reply

To all of us who have worked a drive thru before, utterly unsurprised. Of course she was willing to give her life up over a sandwich.

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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#53 · Quote Reply

There's also the Wendy's(?) projectile alligator incident.

Hook me up brah

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Folstar lemmus.org Folstar@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-03-24
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede

Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that's not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn't a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they're under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is "over fucking a sandwich- what a bitch!" Anita Grayson may have lived like a saint for all we know. At least, up until her body breaking down causes psychosis - which can happen to literally any one of us.

What a fucking stupid society.

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Scrubbles poptalk.scrubbles.tech scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
Joined: 2023-06-02
#55 · Quote Reply

Was she always like this, and getting that pissed stressed her heart, or was she irrational from some health problem that then finished her off? I had a relative with heart problems who had a widowmaker while out in a field getting mad at a stuck tractor. He had been told "you gotta stop taking that tractor out there. it always gets stuck and then you get really mad and you're going to have a h...

Nope sounds right, sounds like she had heart failure already and this kicked it off. She wanted to go out the way she lived, as a Karen.

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Madison420 lemmy.world Madison420@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

Hook me up brah

https://youtu.be/Si9duk125SE?

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Professorozone lemmy.world Professorozone@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
#57 · Quote Reply

I would bet money on it. A lot of traumatic brain injuries or degeneration can just look like someone being an unhinged jerk.

Yeah, I stopped watching videos of Karen's because, while I'm sure some are merely overprivileged, a lot of them come across as genuinely mentally ill.

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ouRKaoS lemmy.today ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-20
#58 · Quote Reply

Didn't the elderly woman have a history of violence\belligerence against family and the public? Or do I have my stories crossed up?

When this first happened, her niece was commenting that it was about time somebody stood up to her & she had it coming for a long time.

Sounds to me like she spent her whole life fucking around and it took 75 years before she found out.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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#59 · Quote Reply

in my mind he was holding it like Steve Carrel holds the granade in the Anchorman fight scene hahahaha

Why isn't Brick Tamlin president by now?

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the_armchair_potato lemmy.world the_armchair_potato@lemmy.world
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#60 · Quote Reply

That really sounds to me like there was some underlying health issue and the customer lost absolute control of herself as she succumbed to it.

That may be the case, but there are countless videos of people committing felonies in restaurants/fast food chains because someone made a mistake on their order. There must be a lot of underlying health issues in the US 😆

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Manjushri piefed.social Manjushri@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-09-29
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

I would bet money on it. A lot of traumatic brain injuries or degeneration can just look like someone being an unhinged jerk.

100% correct. Back in the late 70s/early 80s I had an uncle, technically my grandmothers brother. He'd never married and she was widowed so they shared a house together. In retrospect, I think he was probably a closeted gay man.

Anyway, All through my young years he was a very kind and generous man. Smart too. He bought a Commodore home computer when they first came out and let me play games on it. He used it to write up a family history of everything he knew about our family's past. He also make a cookbook of all my grandmother's recipes. He printed both of those out and gave a copy to every household in the family. He had a shocking level of technological aptitude for a 60ish year old man in the early 80s.

Then one day he changed. I was young and nobody told me exactly what it was. Maybe a stroke or something. From that day on he was as mean as a snake. He'd rip into anyone over anything. Not violently, I don't think, anyway. But he'd scream and swear and slam things and be generally viscous. It was as if my uncle just died and was replaced by a scary, mean old-man who looked just like him.

While this woman may have been a bitch all her life, I've known plenty of healthy, young people who were no better than this. She might also have been emotionally disturbed and no longer the person that she was. Without more information, we'll never know.

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7101334 lemmy.world 7101334@lemmy.world
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#62 · Quote Reply

That may be the case, but there are countless videos of people committing felonies in restaurants/fast food chains because someone made a mistake on their order. There must be a lot of underlying health issues in the US 😆

Living in the US is a health issue lol, especially mental health, especially if you have too few decimal places in your bank account.

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mrgoosmoos lemmy.ca mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-24
#63 · Quote Reply

Is Timmy's the Waffle House of the North?

not as far as that. but the quality and clientele has declined steeply in the past decade and a half.

speaking for Canadian ones. idk about ones south of the border

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mirshafie europe.pub mirshafie@europe.pub
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#64 · Quote Reply

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that's not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn't a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they're under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is "over fucking a sandwich...

Yep, it's kind of wild people jump to calling her a "Super Karen" when he most likely explanation is that she has a psychotic episode.

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mirshafie europe.pub mirshafie@europe.pub
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#65 · Quote Reply

That may be the case, but there are countless videos of people committing felonies in restaurants/fast food chains because someone made a mistake on their order. There must be a lot of underlying health issues in the US 😆

Didn't we literally just have a headline that 90%+ of US adults do not seek healthcare because they can't afford it?

There's something called Penrose's law: the prison population plus mental care population is a constant. So a country that doesn't take care of mental health needs to handle it as crime. Pretty simple when you think about it, but the dude had stats to back up his assertion.

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Dozzi92 lemmy.world Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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#66 · Quote Reply

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that's not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn't a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they're under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is "over fucking a sandwich...

You're drawing your own inferences from who knows where. Cardiac psychosis can be something that could (rarely) occur in late stage CHF patients. Those folks can barely move around at that point though.

This woman did aggravate her serious medical condition, though, and I'm willing to believe she didn't have a complete understanding of it.

I say this being in full agreement we need better healthcare in the US. But I've also seen people with access to great care who just didn't give a shit about the recommendations of their doctors. People are complicated.

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Malyca lemmy.zip Malyca@lemmy.zip
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#67 · Quote Reply

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that's not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn't a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they're under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is "over fucking a sandwich...

I hate the death of empathy

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Malyca lemmy.zip Malyca@lemmy.zip
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#68 · Quote Reply

That really sounds to me like there was some underlying health issue and the customer lost absolute control of herself as she succumbed to it.

Definitely psychosis

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
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#69 · Quote Reply

You're drawing your own inferences from who knows where. Cardiac psychosis can be something that could (rarely) occur in late stage CHF patients. Those folks can barely move around at that point though. This woman did aggravate her serious medical condition, though, and I'm willing to believe she didn't have a complete understanding of it. I say this being in full agreement we need better healt...

I’ve also seen people with access to great care who just didn’t give a shit about the recommendations of their doctors

i haven't been able to get an MD to even open my medical records and look at them, let alone read them, for 15 years. i don't give a shit what my doctors say either, they haven't put in the requisite work to be allowed an opinion on my healthcare.

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weew lemmy.ca weew@lemmy.ca
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#70 · (edited) Quote Reply

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that's not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn't a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they're under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is "over fucking a sandwich...

Well in this particular case, the granddaughter came out and said she was a total bitch all her life, so... maybe it wasn't psychosis in this case?

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blartcap_ lemmy.dbzer0.com blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#71 · Quote Reply

not as far as that. but the quality and clientele has declined steeply in the past decade and a half. speaking for Canadian ones. idk about ones south of the border

The clientele is the same as it always was.

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Dozzi92 lemmy.world Dozzi92@lemmy.world
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#72 · Quote Reply

I’ve also seen people with access to great care who just didn’t give a shit about the recommendations of their doctors i haven't been able to get an MD to even open my medical records and look at them, let alone read them, for 15 years. i don't give a shit what my doctors say either, they haven't put in the requisite work to be allowed an opinion on my healthcare.

I'm sorry that's your experience, that's insane.

Have you considered fighting fire with fire and becoming a doctor and eventually becoming their doctor and then being a bad doctor?

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BillCheddar lemmy.world BillCheddar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-16
#73 · Quote Reply

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that's not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn't a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they're under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is "over fucking a sandwich...

Yeah I'm sure it's an elder care issue and not the fact that she was a miserable asshole her entire life.

Nothing is ever anyone's fault.

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All Ice In Chains lemmy.ml anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-06-04
#74 · Quote Reply

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bury-the-lede Elderly woman has a total breakdown due to medical condition and somehow that's not the headline. This could be a real conversation about how elder care and how maybe it isn't a great idea to have the elderly in charge of things unless they're under constant medical supervision. Instead the top comment is "over fucking a sandwich...

Literally nothing in the article says anything about psychosis, what are you talking about?

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All Ice In Chains lemmy.ml anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml
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#75 · Quote Reply

Well she took someone's hair with her

In her purse, to be precise

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#76 · Quote Reply

I'm sorry that's your experience, that's insane. Have you considered fighting fire with fire and becoming a doctor and eventually becoming their doctor and then being a bad doctor?

i don't need a cocaine habit, no

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Triumph fedia.io Triumph@fedia.io
Joined: 2025-09-19
#77 · Quote Reply

The clientele is the same as it always was.

They can also have declined.

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fake_meows sopuli.xyz fake_meows@sopuli.xyz
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#78 · Quote Reply

Drinking the coffee is punishment enough.

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possumparty lemmy.blahaj.zone possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#79 · Quote Reply

especially a Tim Hortons sandwich. They could make the sandwich completely "right" and perfect and I'd still be upset because I decided eating something, anything, from Tims was a good idea.

aye fuckouttahere them timbits are fire

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VitoRobles lemmy.today VitoRobles@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-01-26
#80 · Quote Reply

Well in this particular case, the granddaughter came out and said she was a total bitch all her life, so... maybe it wasn't psychosis in this case?

Okay thats hilarious.

I hope the funeral wasn't honoring her life, but roasting the shit out of her

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VitoRobles lemmy.today VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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#81 · Quote Reply

Karening to the max

Karenmaxxing

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blartcap_ lemmy.dbzer0.com blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#82 · Quote Reply

They can also have declined.

But it hasn't. It's always been the same. The people who were very loyal to Tim Hortons in the 80s and 90s and 00s haven't moved on to another ubiquitous coffee chain. There aren't any others to move on to for the vast majority of the country.

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Triumph fedia.io Triumph@fedia.io
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#83 · Quote Reply

But it hasn't. It's always been the same. The people who were very loyal to Tim Hortons in the 80s and 90s and 00s haven't moved on to another ubiquitous coffee chain. There aren't any others to move on to for the vast majority of the country.

I think you are speaking of quantity while I am speaking of quality.

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Janx piefed.social Janx@piefed.social
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#84 · Quote Reply

Medical records obtained by investigators after her death showed she had recently been treated for congestive heart failure, hypertension, shortness of breath, and other complaints related to cardiovascular issues.

But not "being a cunt", so I guess that was her decision, not a medical condition.

Seriously, who curses at minimum-wage teenage workers doing their jobs and physically attacks them!? The world is a slightly better place now...

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
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#85 · Quote Reply

"The customer is always right."

As someone who once worked retail, I hate that fucking statement.

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blartcap_ lemmy.dbzer0.com blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#86 · Quote Reply

I think you are speaking of quantity while I am speaking of quality.

I'm not talking about the amount of people, I am talking about who the people who go regularly now (i.e. the clientele) are.

They are not worse now than they were before. They mostly are the ones who were there before.

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postmateDumbass lemmy.world postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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#87 · Quote Reply

Medical records obtained by investigators after her death showed she had recently been treated for congestive heart failure, hypertension, shortness of breath, and other complaints related to cardiovascular issues. But not "being a cunt", so I guess that was her decision, not a medical condition. Seriously, who curses at minimum-wage teenage workers doing their jobs and physically attacks them!...

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wifemademesignup lemmy.world wifemademesignup@lemmy.world
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#88 · Quote Reply

"The customer is always right." As someone who once worked retail, I hate that fucking statement.

In matters of taste.

Not in every single way... I hate how the twisting of this phrase has resulted in abuse of an entire sectors workforce.

Sorry you were one of them too :(

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Cethin lemmy.zip Cethin@lemmy.zip
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#89 · Quote Reply

She could have been sick. She WAS 75.

She could have been, but that doesn't excuse her actions, unless maybe it was totally uncontrollable (like Tourette syndrome) and she was doing everything she could to get help and fix it. If you're not trying to change it then that's just who you are, and if it's something that could be changed then you're just an asshole.

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
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#90 · (edited) Quote Reply

In matters of taste. Not in every single way... I hate how the twisting of this phrase has resulted in abuse of an entire sectors workforce. Sorry you were one of them too :(

Yeah, that's why when I eat out or buy something I strive to be polite.

These people are often contract workers who have little chances of advancement.

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boonhet lemmy.zip boonhet@lemmy.zip
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#91 · Quote Reply

In matters of taste. Not in every single way... I hate how the twisting of this phrase has resulted in abuse of an entire sectors workforce. Sorry you were one of them too :(

That in matters of taste bit was added recently, started circulating on tiktok. There's no evidence of it being part of the original saying.

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puzzleheadedegg1499 lemmy.world puzzleheadedegg1499@lemmy.world
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#92 · Quote Reply

I wanna save this meme but it’s so niche 😂 especially since I don’t live in the south anymore.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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#93 · Quote Reply

"The customer is always right." As someone who once worked retail, I hate that fucking statement.

As a person who worked in retail, and managed and owned retail shops, I never allowed that nonsense to rule my stores.

Especially when I own it, that shop is my Kingdom, and I am the Emperor. What I say goes, and the very LAST person that makes decisions in my shop is the customer, and I am not at all afraid to say that directly to a customers face, and I have.

I have opened a shop with the product I have created, and I ALLOW you to enter and partake. If you can't appreciate the access to my product, and behave accordingly, your access to that product will end, and you will NEVER experience it again.

Do not EVER tell me "the customer is always right" in MY own shop. You enter at MY pleasure, and I don't care what you want.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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#94 · Quote Reply

Medical records obtained by investigators after her death showed she had recently been treated for congestive heart failure, hypertension, shortness of breath, and other complaints related to cardiovascular issues. But not "being a cunt", so I guess that was her decision, not a medical condition. Seriously, who curses at minimum-wage teenage workers doing their jobs and physically attacks them!...

She may have behaved rudely, but nobody should be getting beaten to death for being rude.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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#95 · Quote Reply

That may be the case, but there are countless videos of people committing felonies in restaurants/fast food chains because someone made a mistake on their order. There must be a lot of underlying health issues in the US 😆

Most of those videos don't feature a healthy young worker literally beating an elderly woman to death.

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mPony lemmy.world mPony@lemmy.world
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#96 · (edited) Quote Reply

In matters of taste. Not in every single way... I hate how the twisting of this phrase has resulted in abuse of an entire sectors workforce. Sorry you were one of them too :(

we just need to normalize saying the whole thing.

"The customer is always right in matters of taste."
"The customer is always right in matters of taste."
"The customer is always right in matters of taste."

The customer is certainly not right if they're assaulting someone.

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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#97 · Quote Reply

She may have behaved rudely, but nobody should be getting beaten to death for being rude.

She wasn't beaten to death for being rude. She attacked a manager for telling her to leave after berating a 17 year old employee. She punched the manger in the face, yanked her to the ground by the hair and continued punching her while on the ground. The manager only got away after the chunk of hair she was being held by was ripped out of her scalp.

She died from a heart attack because she started a fight with a 20 year old girl while having congestive heart failure. The manager even brought her a cup of water to a person who just assaulted her because they were worried about them.

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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#98 · Quote Reply

I hate the death of empathy

Should we not have empathy for the children she assaulted? There is no evidence that she had a psychotic episode, there's plenty of evidence that she violently assaulted a young woman for doing their job.

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Vandals_handle lemmy.world Vandals_handle@lemmy.world
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#99 · Quote Reply

As a person who worked in retail, and managed and owned retail shops, I never allowed that nonsense to rule my stores. Especially when I own it, that shop is my Kingdom, and I am the Emperor. What I say goes, and the very LAST person that makes decisions in my shop is the customer, and I am not at all afraid to say that directly to a customers face, and I have. I have opened a shop with the pro...

Found Amy Bouzaglo's alt account

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Janx piefed.social Janx@piefed.social
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#100 · Quote Reply

She may have behaved rudely, but nobody should be getting beaten to death for being rude.

She wasn't. Read the summary or my comment if you're not going to read the article.

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wifemademesignup lemmy.world wifemademesignup@lemmy.world
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#101 · Quote Reply

That in matters of taste bit was added recently, started circulating on tiktok. There's no evidence of it being part of the original saying.

I had to look this up.

In short, point to you for your correctness on the origin.

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