OK...hmm.. Let's see....

That you saw an adult in a position of power attacking a child and the comment you went with was:

"He shouldn't be punching that teenage girl like that, he'll break his hand"

Is probably indicative of something, probably not something good.

Generic anecdote about boxing training is generic, vague and in my anecdotal experience incorrect.

... That should cover it I think

Huh, That was actually easier than I thought.

Big tough man beating up an 18 year old girl.

No you won't. Keyboard hero.

It's because "Defund the police" is a stupid slogan. It's so vague no one knows what's actually meant by it.

And anyone who thinks any large society exists without any form of law enforcement is a dumbass.

No, you won't. Either an outright lie or you know for sure you'd never actually be in his vicinity.

Those "well meaning" savages support protecting child rapists. There ARE not good Trump supporters these days.

You don't get to be a Trump supporter and then not be associated with all of his horrific bullshit.

Nothing I've said suggests that. Again, you people are prejudiced and think that justifies throwing away your empathy.

So you think that every one of those 77 million people makes their money through lies, fraud, and abuse?

No. That is simply unreasonable, and I'd be willing to say statistically impossible considering how many blue collar workers voted Trump. Who am I kidding? This is Lemmy, where only the correct labor (like being a white collar worker in high tech) is appreciated, the rest are just lies.

So a loyalist who was against the terrorist murder rapists known as our founding fathers where the same as someone hundreds of years later who unironically supports police brutality!?

Well "defenestrate the police" would be a much better slogan, you're right, but that one will get you arrested just for changing it, so some compromises are necessary.

Even forgetting the transgressions of the aristocracy back then, Sure Brittian were colonizers which is fucking awful, but then what did the colony do once it had freedom? Colonize the whole fucking landmass and only stop when they were adequately challenged to the north and south.

We're looknig in the fucking mirror

Would love to see a trained much smaller person no holds barred him in seconds. Destroy his ego. Big means something to him and having that power taken away would be soul crushing.

Let his peers publicly shame him. Cops love to do that. It’ll hurt more when his “friends” are showing their true colors.

Pension, gone. Immunity, gone. Let the man enjoy the consequences of his actions.

Or just feed him to a prison.

I think it is absolutely ridiculous comparing these two symbols. Loyalists were not going around bombing and murdering people. It was the wealthy colonists involved in a conspiracy to take control so they could enrich themselves. Everything else is just propaganda.

Willful ignorance is evil.

His girlfriend wouldn't peg him before shift any longer and he had so much rage its all he could do to wait for some outlet so the voice of Goebbels stops echoing in his skull.

It’s both

Lets vote harder and have a little police reform /s

That should have been a knee from the top rope at most.

You realize the conditions you rail against existed before the upstarts did the whole Revolution thing?

Slavery was not invented in 1777.

I think it was a response to the way police fuck up and then get more taxpayer money for training, which also means more overtime pay to cover the time spent training.

So they beat people up and get a bigger budget. Rinse, repeat.

Yes that's what pursuit of happiness means. One of our main gripes with Britain was that they were enriching themselves with our natural resources and then selling the finished products back to us at huge surcharges. We threw off the yolk of a colonial empire.

They do it because it's fun, and they'll get away with it.

I hope so too, but the reality is: lol that’ll never fucking happen.

Yeah, not buying it. It was a bunch of wealthy shitheads who did a lot of horrible things and produced probably the most destructive nation in history.

You have no idea what I am railing against.

WTF, America?

It might but it will be like he is shifted to a new precinct and she gets paid a 6-7 figure settlement from taxpayer money because unlike any other service profession (healthcare, legal, customer service) cops don’t have to deal with liability when they fuck up and you pay for their “whoopsies”

I pay $3200 a year for malpractice insurance that covers up to a 3 million dollar settlement if I fuck up. Said insurance also requires I maintain licensure and certifications that demand I do 20-30 hours of continuing education a year to ensure I keep training up, and 5 hours of this must be related to ethics. I am in behavioral health, my colleagues that work in physical health pay substantially more given the increased risk (though they’re also paid a lot more). Why dont cops need to do something similar? In many areas they are paid obscene amounts of money, for what? Or just gut the system altogether and start over because it’s crystal clear the rot runs extremely deep

Makes more sense when you realize the history of the police is steeped in racism and anti-prole actions. That racism hasn't died and they are more brazen because of the president.

He's likely a white supremacist which is why he is 1. a cop and 2. attacking an unarmed black girl who is visibly distraught. Willfully and gleefully escalating to punching her when she doesn't comply because again she's distraught. A police officer is okayed to "fear for their life" in any situation and given free reign to kill someone. Where as a civilian one must be perfect in how they handle themselves and maintain composure. You know, how abusers say things should be.

The system is working as intended. Remember what the history of the police force in the USA is based off of.

Woke 1 was crazy

Did you consider that maybe every other comment covered the obvious evil of beating up a child and I didn't feel the need to be redundant? And i also noticed a much smaller point i wanted to make that nobody else had made yet, so I figured that was a way of contributing rather than being redundant when I already upvoted the several top comments?

You think blue collar workers can't lie defraud or abuse?

... thats....reasonable.

My bad.

You think all blue collar workers that voted for Trump defraud and abuse the system?

That's fucking stupid, it also shows that you think yourself immune to propaganda - just so you understand, you aren't.

Edit: whoops, idk how this edit got here - mistake.

Yes, they lie at work, they lie on their taxes, they cheat on their wives, they lie on their car insurance they do everything they can do lie cheat and steal without getting in trouble, their moral compass is they shouldn't do things if it gets them in trouble, and when they do get caught the way to minimize the trouble is to deny and deflect.

Ah so we've reached the point where MAGA is simultaneously too dumb to navigate their way out of a paper bag and somehow the most accomplished fraudsters in the U.S. .

Congrats, you learned from the fascists well.

You don't need to be smart to lie and cheat.

You need to be smart to get away with it, but for some reason you believe every single blue collar worker that voted for Trump is simultaneously a fucking idiot and also a criminal mastermind.

The fascist other - it's the only way to describe it. The enemy is both strong and weak.

No, you don't need to be smart to get away with it because trump is defunding all enforcement that isn't ice.

So you understand nothing about how anything works, apparently.

No, you're trying to paint me into a corner that doesn't exist. Dumb people lie and steal and get away with it all the time. Intelligence has nothing to do with it. And yes, plenty of smart people do too. You're conflating two things that have nothing to do with each other. You could be claiming that im framing maga supporters as tall and short at the same time and it would make just as much sense.

You're conflating two things that have nothing to do with each other. You could be claiming that im framing maga supporters as tall and short at the same time

The enemy is both weak and strong, if you are unaware why this is fascist ideology I heavily suggest reading into it.

I never said they are both weak and strong, everybody learns that shit in high school when they read 1984. It just does not apply to this conversation.

No, those 77 million people are not all like this cop.

You can call them stupid, and you'd be right - but there are plenty of well meaning idiots in MAGA. That doesn't change the fact that they should all be worked like dogs until they pay everyone they've fucked over - but they aren't all like this guy. Many of them are just incredibly stupid.

This is the comment you replied to. If you don't understand how you fell into fascist ideology by trying to say (and I'm paraphrasing) 'no you're wrong' to this, using the arguments you've made 100% falls into 'the enemy is both weak and strong' category.

And no, idiots do not get away with fraud - rich people do. There is a distinct difference between the two, and if you don't understand that then you shouldn't be weighing in on the topic.

Like everyone else that responded to me about this.

idk you think im saying theyre all dumb, im not, that's a strawman you invented in your comment you just cited. they are in fact bad people, sorry if youre girlfriend is maga or something. adn there's plenty of stupid people who are good people and that's why they didn't vote for trump. you don't have to be smart to not supprt a child rapist. and yes plenty of rich people are idiots, again you're conflating things that have nothing to do with each other.

no there really aren't man, there's people who didn't know better and voted trump the first time, but the magas are people who are bad people and see that trump is a bad person, and that's precisely why they voted for him.

This is your response. You are trying to suggest that the people who are victims of propaganda are simply all bad people instead of what they are - fucking ignorant and incapable of escaping it.

You can hate them for that. I hate them for that. It does not change the reality that what you're saying is empirically incorrect.

The victims were the ones who voted for him only the first time. The second time there's no excuse.