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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
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#52 · Quote Reply

I see zero mention of this Jacob Berger guy in here. This article appears to be about somebody named Alex trying to attack Nerdeen with molotovs and then flee to Israel? No idea how its relevant here. I do see her saying he was grifting but not that he assaulted someone. you can even search "Jacob Berger Sexual Assault" on your engine of choice and get nothing but the article you linked and a f...

Doddering fool. Try searching her profile

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-11
#53 · Quote Reply

I think the amazing thing about redditors is you actually believe coming at people with ignorant jackassery is a contribution Right back at ya buddy. I'm sure the people of Palestine are eternally grateful for your incredible contribution of "vagueposting so you can screenshot comments from people not knowing the full context about the person in question." That totally isn't terminally online, ...

Oh no, what is Palestine going to do without Lemmy? You're so right

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chobeat lemmy.ml chobeat@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2019-06-08
#54 · Quote Reply

Do you even know what secular means? How is this secular or puritan?

It's puritan because it equates sexual desire with evil, unconditionally. It's secular because puritanism is usually associated with protestantism, but in this case it finds its way through some kind of political moralism that is only indirectly connected with the pervasive puritanism in the American society

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-11
#55 · Quote Reply

People should send nude pictures to people who take action against the Zionist ethnostate. What’s the problem here?

Taking action? 😭 it's a fucking boat tour where they got arrested on purpose to make a point. You are a slave.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#56 · Quote Reply

Oh no, what is Palestine going to do without Lemmy? You're so right

Oh no, what is Palestine going to do if you don't jerk yourself off over screenshots from Lemmy? You're so right.

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-11
#57 · Quote Reply

Oh no, what is Palestine going to do if you don't jerk yourself off over screenshots from Lemmy? You're so right.

And where did I claim this thread was for saving Palestine, rather than my own amusement at your expense, Mr. Objection? There doesn't seem to be a rule against making a fool out of you people.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#58 · Quote Reply

And where did I claim this thread was for saving Palestine, rather than my own amusement at your expense, Mr. Objection? There doesn't seem to be a rule against making a fool out of you people.

Well, let's see. I said it was a bait post and you seemed to have a problem with that characterization. If you're admitting that the whole point of the thread is trolling then I really don't have anything else to say.

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-11
#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, let's see. I said it was a bait post and you seemed to have a problem with that characterization. If you're admitting that the whole point of the thread is trolling then I really don't have anything else to say.

Not everything that causes you to show your whole ass of your own damn volition is bait. I think you are elevating this thread by calling it bait, which is a time-honored internet tradition. This is just how I speak to people who have no information to trade with me.

You never had anything to say, my friend. Just "no no no! you have to do what I say!" Or what? I'll lose your respect? What part do you play in the class struggle, being a reply guy?

Nothing. To. Offer.

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boonhet sopuli.xyz boonhet@sopuli.xyz
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#60 · Quote Reply

Asking for nudes as being intrinsically sexist and objectifying is something that makes sense only in the American liberal middle-class discourse and mores. Outside, this stuff is a non sequitur.

Uh I'm not American but I still think ASKING women for nudes is pathetic and creepy. Do you actually do that?

Not receiving nudes. Asking for them is the weird part.

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OurToothbrush lemmy.ml OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-29
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

Having a sexuality is normal. Joking about it in public is normal. Having a sexuality does not make you less moral. Having a sexuality is not in conflict with holding radical political values. Being heterosexual is not a sign of immorality. Joking in a stressful and grave situation is not immoral. Being sad and serious 24/7 doesn't alleviate the consequences of a genocide. The puritanical value...

Being heterosexual is not a sign of immorality.

You lost me, sorry. I've seen what expectations bisexual women have of dating and sex, which are informed by having mostly dated men.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-19
#62 · Quote Reply

Do you even know what secular means? How is this secular or puritan?

chobeat beat me to it, no notes on their comment.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#63 · Quote Reply

The thrashing these guys are doing to defend general sexism under a guise of “you’re anti sex and actually I’m a feminist for being okay with naked woman” is astonishing. And very sad… Casual Sexism & Rape culture is huge in the online left it seems

To be clear, I didn't say a single thing about the guy in the post or anything remotely similar to the strawman position you described. I don't even know who this guy is. My problem is with OP acting blatantly in bad faith, saying that he's just trying to get screenshots of people defending him while deliberately avoiding mention of the context of rape allegations that would likely make these users not defend him.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
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#64 · Quote Reply

Not everything that causes you to show your whole ass of your own damn volition is bait. I think you are elevating this thread by calling it bait, which is a time-honored internet tradition. This is just how I speak to people who have no information to trade with me. You never had anything to say, my friend. Just "no no no! you have to do what I say!" Or what? I'll lose your respect? What part ...

Boring troll.

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-11
#65 · Quote Reply

Boring troll.

The settler liberal weeps after spamming to no avail

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Sanctus anarchist.nexus Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-08
#66 · Quote Reply

Doddering fool. Try searching her profile

https://xcancel.com/KatanaSpeaks/status/1975438344579653755#m

Finally fucking found what you've been treating as Gospel. Its a string of tweets from someone claiming to have been SA'd by him. You could have just linked this, but you wanted to argue and put yourself above everyone instead of actually spreading awareness.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
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#67 · Quote Reply

The settler liberal weeps after spamming to no avail

Sorry. I didn't mean to make you cry.

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
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#68 · (edited) Quote Reply

https://xcancel.com/KatanaSpeaks/status/1975438344579653755#m Finally fucking found what you've been treating as Gospel. Its a string of tweets from someone claiming to have been SA'd by him. You could have just linked this, but you wanted to argue and put yourself above everyone instead of actually spreading awareness.

Can you explain what spreading awareness here would accomplish, other than more people like you harassing victims of sexual assault?

Remember the very first thing you did after realizing that I am (always) right was deny their testimony. It's easy to predict because they grow you people in cloning vats.

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
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#69 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sorry. I didn't mean to make you cry.

Well, I won't beg you to cry for what you've done to Palestine, but could you clarify what country you live in and what your political affiliation actually is before squirting out "I know what you are, but what am I?" 🤣

I can smell it on you. You've spent the past three years hoping that voting and protests would counterbalance your tacit support for the genocide. These are the people who rape, distract, and kill for you. Of course you defend them.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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#70 · (edited) Quote Reply

You think I want a sexless future because you’re being a fucking pig? Western men are truly all the same, y'all can’t even face criticism for your sexist opinions online without resorting to telling me I believe things that I don’t. All of a sudden telling other men to act normal is me saying I don’t like sex and women and men can’t be horny, you guys have seriously twisted world views of you t...

You think I want a sexless future because you’re being a fucking pig?

I know you're at the very least on the side of the people who want a sexless future because you think I'm a pig for saying there's nothing wrong with asking for casual/meaningless sexual activity as long as you take no for an answer and don't bother someone who's made it clear they aren't interested.

And that's all I need to know to know you're 100% wrong about this subject. Tbh, you're pretty fucking based on everything else I've ever seen you engage with on Lemmy, but you're not even in the same ballpark as right on this. Saying that any public expression of horniness by a straight dude is inherently entitled and predatory (and that's what you're doing here, whether you want to accept it or not) is reactionary AF. You're defending bourgeois sexual mores originally created to maximize the price bronze aged goat fuckers could get for selling their preteen daughters to middle aged men. There is no version of purity culture that's compatible with a world free of domination systems.

From other comments I gather he has done things that are genuinely bad, so call him out for that. Make sure everyone contemplating sending him nudes knows who they're sending them to. But don't pretend him asking for nudes is in the same category of behavior. That's not only fucked up, it's counter-revolutionary.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-19
#71 · Quote Reply

Yeah because I call out a pig being a gross pig, I want a sexless future. Literal child thinking. You may think you aren’t acting like a fucking dog but you are. It’s okay it just shows me how most other men deal with their sexual feelings. Go and sexualize more women and call me a puritan lmfao.

You may think you aren’t acting like a fucking dog but you are.

I'm not the lapdog barking my bourgeois preacher's nonsense takes on sex, little yapper.

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deathmetaldawgy lemmy.ml deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-25
#72 · (edited) Quote Reply

It's puritan because it equates sexual desire with evil, unconditionally. It's secular because puritanism is usually associated with protestantism, but in this case it finds its way through some kind of political moralism that is only indirectly connected with the pervasive puritanism in the American society

But that’s the thing I’m not equating sexual desire with evil. I never said he was evil for being horny, or evil at all. I said he’s a pig because he’s acting like a pig. That’s also not what secular means.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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#73 · Quote Reply

lol I’m not a puritan. You guys are being really gross. Go talk to a woman in person without hitting on her. Actually scratch that, just leave women alone. I know they already don’t feel comfortable around you

lol I’m not a puritan

Your comments all up and down this thread say otherwise.

Actually scratch that, just leave women alone. I know they already don’t feel comfortable around you

You don't know fuck all, but some we're making unwarranted assumptions based on social media comments, it seems to me like you probably wear black shirts with a white square collar and like little kids, which is probably why you're so grossed out by adults wanting to see other adults naked.

See how fucking stupid that kind of thing is?

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Sanctus anarchist.nexus Sanctus@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-08
#74 · Quote Reply

Can you explain what spreading awareness here would accomplish, other than more people like you harassing victims of sexual assault? Remember the very first thing you did after realizing that I am (always) right was deny their testimony. It's easy to predict because they grow you people in cloning vats.

Remember the first thing you did was refuse to elaborate, link the wrong person (Hana Katana does not appear to be Nerdeen), call me a fucken idiot, refuse to link anything further. You handled this entire thing with your nose turned down and adversarial. When instead you could have begun with this thread linked in your FUCKING post and everyone wouldnt have been hostile but inquisitive. You made this hostile, dont act like this is the norm.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
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#75 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, I won't beg you to cry for what you've done to Palestine, but could you clarify what country you live in and what your political affiliation actually is before squirting out "I know what you are, but what am I?" 🤣 I can smell it on you. You've spent the past three years hoping that voting and protests would counterbalance your tacit support for the genocide. These are the people who rape,...

Well, I won’t beg you to cry for what you’ve done to Palestine

What the fuck did I do to Palestine?

but could you clarify what country you live in and what your political affiliation actually is before squirting out “I know what you are, but what am I?” 🤣

Maybe that's something you should have checked before throwing around random insults.

I am an American Marxist-Leninist who voted for PSL as the only party that supported ending the genocide in Gaza. If you check my post history, you can see me advocating that position going back years.

I can smell it on you. You’ve spent the past three years hoping that voting and protests would counterbalance your tacit support for the genocide.

How did I "tacitly support genocide," exactly?

You "smell it on" everyone, because you just automatically assume everyone is your enemy. That's my whole point. You have to make your case earnestly and give people the chance to agree with you before you start berating them, assuming malice, and trying to trick them into humiliating screenshots.

This is just wrecker behavior, and if you're not a fed, they owe you a paycheck.

These are the people who rape, distract, and kill for you. Of course you defend them.

I still don't know anything about this Berger guy. Are you claiming he's killed people on my behalf? If so, it's the first I've heard of it.

Also, I haven't said a single word in his defense.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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#76 · Quote Reply

Why people in this comment section so sexist? This is a blatant objectification of women, he is prioritising their sexual characteristic over the fact that they are human beings. You don't see women posting things like this. How is there nothing wrong with asking strangers to send vulnerable pictures of their naked bodies?
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emergencyfood sh.itjust.works emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
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#77 · Quote Reply

It's puritan because it equates sexual desire with evil, unconditionally. It's secular because puritanism is usually associated with protestantism, but in this case it finds its way through some kind of political moralism that is only indirectly connected with the pervasive puritanism in the American society

Humans are animals but we usually wear clothes when in public spaces. There is a difference between having desires and acting on them in a way that would make others uncomfortable.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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#78 · Quote Reply

Uh I'm not American but I still think ASKING women for nudes is pathetic and creepy. Do you actually do that? Not receiving nudes. Asking for them is the weird part.

Uh I'm not American but I still think ASKING women for nudes is pathetic and creepy

You might not be American, but you're puritanical enough to fit right in in Salt Lake City. The only thing pathetic is being so sexist as to view sharing nudes as diminishing the woman who shared them somehow, which is the only way in which you could see it as demeaning to ask for nudes.

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ZeroHora lemmy.ml ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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#79 · Quote Reply

Can you explain what spreading awareness here would accomplish, other than more people like you harassing victims of sexual assault? Remember the very first thing you did after realizing that I am (always) right was deny their testimony. It's easy to predict because they grow you people in cloning vats.

Seriously not everyone can keep up with loser American trash doing what American trash does just give context when someone ask wtf.

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Formless Oedon lemmy.ml formlessoedon@lemmy.ml
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#80 · (edited) Quote Reply

Seriously not everyone can keep up with loser American trash doing what American trash does just give context when someone ask wtf.

No. You will be forced to experience Graham Platnerism for eternity. You're welcome.

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chobeat lemmy.ml chobeat@lemmy.ml
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#81 · Quote Reply

Humans are animals but we usually wear clothes when in public spaces. There is a difference between having desires and acting on them in a way that would make others uncomfortable.

what is the threshold for that is culturally subjective. In many contexts, asking for nudes on social media is a normal thing to do.

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chobeat lemmy.ml chobeat@lemmy.ml
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#82 · Quote Reply

Uh I'm not American but I still think ASKING women for nudes is pathetic and creepy. Do you actually do that? Not receiving nudes. Asking for them is the weird part.

Pathetic maybe, but being pathetic is still not wrong. Creepy I wouldn't say so. Creepy implies an indirectness and second motives: here he's being very direct and his motives are clear.

I don't ask for nudes, because I have no particular interest in nudes and I prefer when they are sent spontaneously. But I deliberately post horny memes on main, where I have professional contacts, to fight against cringe culture and sex-negativity.

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ZeroHora lemmy.ml ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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#83 · Quote Reply

No. You will be forced to experience Graham Platnerism for eternity. You're welcome.

oooaaaaaaauhhh

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Newhere lemmy.ml Newhere@lemmy.ml
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#84 · Quote Reply

Women are discussed by this type of pics men send. So i was thinking its something men appreciate. But i see Even men don't want to see 🍆😅🤣

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pineapple lemmy.ml pineapple@lemmy.ml
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#85 · Quote Reply

Oh cmon I didn't mean it like that. It's just a stock phrase, I've seen you around.

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pineapple lemmy.ml pineapple@lemmy.ml
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#86 · Quote Reply

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I don't watch TikTok lol this is my own opinion. Heterosexual sex is not evil either, that's hardly what I said! This person is clearly prioritising women's bodies for their sexual characteristics over their humanity.

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pineapple lemmy.ml pineapple@lemmy.ml
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#87 · Quote Reply

Asking for nudes as being intrinsically sexist and objectifying is something that makes sense only in the American liberal middle-class discourse and mores. Outside, this stuff is a non sequitur.

I don't understand why, can you explain. Also I am neither American nor liberal.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-19
#88 · Quote Reply

I don't watch TikTok lol this is my own opinion. Heterosexual sex is not evil either, that's hardly what I said! This person is clearly prioritising women's bodies for their sexual characteristics over their humanity.

That's not clear at all. And the fact that you see that here says plenty about you, none of it good. If you believe asking for nudes is

prioritising women's bodies for their sexual characteristics over their humanity.

then as a corollary you must also believe that sending nudes dehumanizes a woman, otherwise the premise makes no sense.

All modesty taboos, sexual purity/virginity fetishism and related beliefs are derived from values systems that see women as property. You simply cannot separate the two. And if you stop to actually think about why you believe what you believe, that kind of thinking can't hold up if you don't also fundamentally see women as property. His asking for nudes is only outrageous if he's asking women to devalue themselves somehow. If that's not the case. Then he's crass, maybe out of line with the generally expected dignity of the task he's set about, but he's not being "creepy", "entitled", "predatory", or any of the other things that are being thrown around in here.

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TrollAccount69 lemmy.ml TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml
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#89 · Quote Reply

Taking action? 😭 it's a fucking boat tour where they got arrested on purpose to make a point. You are a slave.

I also do not believe the effectiveness of the flotillas will be in their quantity of delivered aid or successful landings, however I see the value of raising the Red Cross/Crescent and sailing towards a war zone with the declared intent and cargo in preparation to disperse aid to force the idf to stop you.

That action (and it is action) makes clear to any observer that the intent of the zionists is genocide.

I’m not familiar with the person you’re posting about but military detention by the idf is not the same as being arrested and I’m not sure what you can possibly be trying to accomplish rhetorically by equating the two.

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#90 · Quote Reply

This is unacceptable but it is also unacceptable to delegitimate all activist putting their body in the front to help a sieged population

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#91 · (edited) Quote Reply

Taking action? 😭 it's a fucking boat tour where they got arrested on purpose to make a point. You are a slave.

Yes they are making a point which is that israel is kidnapping them in international water and block them from entering Palestinian territories so israel continue to weaponize aids to achieve their colonial goals

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#92 · Quote Reply

I also do not believe the effectiveness of the flotillas will be in their quantity of delivered aid or successful landings, however I see the value of raising the Red Cross/Crescent and sailing towards a war zone with the declared intent and cargo in preparation to disperse aid to force the idf to stop you. That action (and it is action) makes clear to any observer that the intent of the zionis...

If yo uare taking by force in a territory that do not belong to you thatès can only be described as kidnapping not arrest or detention bullshit

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mrdown lemmy.world mrdown@lemmy.world
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#93 · Quote Reply

Taking action? 😭 it's a fucking boat tour where they got arrested on purpose to make a point. You are a slave.

Gazan appreciate the effort and scum like you are making fun of those activists. Fuck you peace of trash, I hope your family experience what gazans experience

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGwB8W_ISZk

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chobeat lemmy.ml chobeat@lemmy.ml
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#94 · Quote Reply

I don't understand why, can you explain. Also I am neither American nor liberal.

Because it's a normal, common interaction among humans, not particularly charged politically if there's no power relationship between the two people. This guy is not asking for nudes to an intern, for instance.

Public exhibition of sexual desire is acceptable in most contexts. If there's a topic of sexism, it is in the fact that men doing this is more acceptable than women doing it, but this should be addressed by removing the stigma from women doing it rather than adding stigma to men doing it.

But more generally, the policing of celebrities personal behavior to conform to strong social mores is a mostly protestant thing. In other cultures, especially before modernity or globalization, fame allowed you exactly to escape the commonplace social mores because you were outside of the community. Taking celebrities as role models and therefore asking them for moral behavior is a very American thing to do, even though after WW2 this system has been pushed throughout the world.

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TrollAccount69 lemmy.ml TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml
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#95 · Quote Reply

If yo uare taking by force in a territory that do not belong to you thatès can only be described as kidnapping not arrest or detention bullshit

Call it what you want. Military detention sounds worse than kidnapping to me and that’s what the idf describes it as so that’s what I say.

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