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AA5B
lemmy.world
AA5B@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
I appreciate the clarification, but I doubt there will be a way for both scenarios to exist simultaneously; that is to say, I think any sufficiently common "exception" would result in self driving cars not being statistically safer than human drivers. It would have to be something sufficiently obscure, like, I dunno, going down a eastern-facing switchback road in the fog at sunrise. (Maybe too ...
Without judging the effectiveness, Tesla has made great progress on this. If you read through recent FSD reviews you’ll see many claim things like “the car drives more confidently” |
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inclementimmigrant
lemmy.world
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Or maybe I can recognize nuance? Not once did I try to say Tesla was not at fault, only that there is no sign of anyone even arguing whether FSD disengaging immediately before a crash shifts blame. It does not, nor can I find any legal, regulatory, or actual news indicating that it ever did. There are plenty of real issues we should focus on rather than claiming something there is no evidence of
Or maybe provide citations and proof of your claim instead of going off strawmanning on a different topic. As for real issues, yeah we should focus on how we should never trust a for-profit corporation lead by a known liar to supply statistics on their own safety. https://electrek.co/2026/05/28/tesla-fsd-safety-stats-misleading-reuters-investigation/ |
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AA5B
lemmy.world
AA5B@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
They clearly state they do that for safety and count it as engaged Or maybe provide citations and proof of your claim instead of going off strawmanning on a different topic. As for real issues, yeah we should focus on how we should never trust a for-profit corporation lead by a known liar to supply statistics on their own safety. https://electrek.co/2026/05/28/tesla-fsd-safety-stats-misleading-...
I do not see anything about your contention there. Perhaps you could support that since my entire point was that is wrong. And I used stronger language because if you wanted to claim FSD was unsafe you have all these well documented historical issues and do not need to spread the unsubstantiated claim that FSD disengages to shift blame |
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AA5B
lemmy.world
AA5B@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
They clearly state they do that for safety and count it as engaged Or maybe provide citations and proof of your claim instead of going off strawmanning on a different topic. As for real issues, yeah we should focus on how we should never trust a for-profit corporation lead by a known liar to supply statistics on their own safety. https://electrek.co/2026/05/28/tesla-fsd-safety-stats-misleading-...
By “strawmanning on a different topic.” perhaps you mean sticking to the original topic while you go off strawmanning on a different topic?
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inclementimmigrant
lemmy.world
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
By “strawmanning on a different topic.” perhaps you mean sticking to the original topic while you go off strawmanning on a different topic? Teslas are programmed to turn off autopilot half a second before a crash so statistics can say “autopilot was off at the time of the crash”.
So OP provided a citation from the NSHTA report on how FSD disengages before a crash which has been in the news a lot when it first was revealed and I provided a journalistist investigation that found Tesla is potentially fudging their statistics with FSD. Plenty of citations there to make a case. Your turn to once again provide a citation to back up your case. |
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AA5B
lemmy.world
AA5B@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
So OP provided a citation from the NSHTA report on how FSD disengages before a crash which has been in the news a lot when it first was revealed and I provided a journalistist investigation that found Tesla is potentially fudging their statistics with FSD. Plenty of citations there to make a case. Your turn to once again provide a citation to back up your case.
This whole chain is a response to
And no one has anything to support that. Please add a citation to support that before you insist on citations to support disagreeing with an unsupported claim Note my previous response (accidentally responded to the nhtsa thing in the past with an edit)
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Initech_vs_Initrode
lemmy.zip
Initech_vs_Initrode@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-07-29 |
I'd say any "bollard" you can drive over isn't a bollard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_bollard "Traffic bollards" or "flexible bollards" seem to be the terms for this type of bollard. They're intended to guide traffic, rather than to stop it dead as a security measure. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Just like any pedestrian… amirite?!?! /s
Jimmy Bollard |
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inclementimmigrant
lemmy.world
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
This whole chain is a response to Teslas are programmed to turn off autopilot half a second before a crash so statistics can say “autopilot was off at the time of the crash”. And no one has anything to support that. Please add a citation to support that before you insist on citations to support disagreeing with an unsupported claim Note my previous response (accidentally responded to the nhtsa ...
Done playing chess with a pigeon and you trying desperately to strawman. Simply provide your citations for your original argument. |
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Nocklusamigos
lemmy.world
liuther9@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-15 |
If there are no consequences for lying, then why would they ever stop lying?
*every politician in the world |
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