The last death throes of institutionalized fascism.

I hope.

So do they support ending the sanctions? Maybe not doing military exercises identical to preparing to invade on NK's border every year during planting and harvesting time?

Its not the first time MAGA fell ass-backwards into accidently supporting a good policy, like when they were calling Trump the peace candidate and opposing needless foreign wars, you know before he murdered hundreds of iranian children and started an unwinnable war.

It would be nice to see them figure out how to support not starving some country for the purpose of weakening them for a future coup or invasion for like 5 minutes until Trump does the opposite of that.

Believing Trump would be a president of peace is just being gullible.

MAGA and the far-left both supporting Russia’s genocide of Ukraine and North Korea’s many human rights violations is just proof that the horseshoe theory is correct.

Far-"left"

Do you suppose making conditions worse for everyone in NK has been successful in curtailing human rights abuses?

it feels more like a cornered animal at this point. and we all know what cornered animals do...

I’m not educated enough in geopolitics to fully answer that question but I do know that North Korea already severely restricts information that flows in and out of the country which makes it hard to know if the sanctions even have an impact on their citizens.

If North Korea allowed them to talk to other people and travel unrestricted and gave them the choice if they wanted to continue that family’s experiment or not I’d have an easier time supporting them.

A Russian/Chinese propaganda coup.

See also:

https://www.mangalmedia.net/english//is-genocide-denial-anti-imperialist-now-how-tankies-are-taking-over-leftbook-and-the-london-student-scene

Trump probably does support those things. All he does are things that support the West's enemies.

Believing that North Korea's working class is starving because of Western sanctions instead of an authoritarian dictatorship is the result of Chinese propaganda.

Like look at the timeline of the sanctions. They're a hell of a lot more recent than the starving.

Can you cite exactly what America or any other western country has done specifically, like even just ONE thing, to make conditions worse for everyone in NK? Like I can google the sanctions, they seem pretty targeted at the elite, and over some pretty good reasons.

Death throes? What are you talking about? We're in the beginning of Fascism 2.0. Everything we're experiencing is mirroring the rise of Nazi Germany, Japan, and Italy. Except this time it's America, Russia, and China.

Maga accidentally joins juche gang lmao

It's wild reading political articles from 2019

Pre COVID, pre-ukraine war, pre Israel/hamas war+genocide+wider middle east war. Everything was so different

If Trump's policy towards Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea is what support looks like, wtf does opposition look like? Does he give you food, oil, and medicine instead of blockading you?

If we discount dropping napalm on cities during the war? Or timing military drills to coincide with the harvest and planting seasons to pull farmers away from the fields for self-defence?

I can google the sanctions, they seem pretty targeted at the elite

They ban NK from buying oil, industrial equipment, or selling any of their resources. This is the same play we ran between Iraq pt I and II, after destroying their infrastructure and then restricting them from being allowed to buy the parts to repair it on the international market.

Ostensibly the justification is to cause as much suffering as possible so the people overthrow the government and we can replace it with one who will sell out their people's resources and labor.

The sanctions go back to the war, the famine after the war were due to having most of they buildings destroyed and 20% of their population killed. They restarted after the USSR fell and they lost their biggest trading partner, same story with Cuba.

What's the alternative story here, that Kim Jong Un eats all the food? That being "aUtHoRiTaRiAn" means he would rather rule over a starving populace than buy fuel for the tractors?

Its weird to include China in that list, especially when Japan never de-nazified, and Germany is getting ready to re-nazify.

Their leader is fat off coke and cheese. He is the one that makes life for them difficult at this point.

He is fat and always spending cash on stupid parades and American celebrities so…yea not far off to assume he’s that fucking stupid.

Ask the Tibetans, Uighurs, Hong Kongers, and Taiwanese how they feel.

But maybe don't do the first three, because you're likely putting them in a position between risking their own safety and lying.

Haven't met any Tibetans, but I talk politics with Hong Kongers somewhat regularly, both in and outside China, and Uhigurs both in Xinjiang and Kazakhstan, last time I was there and the time before that. Of course if you think the Chinese government controls Kazakhstan, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Japan, IDK what to tell you.

Last Taiwanese person I met we only talked about green tea, and they seemed really defensive about it so it didn't seem like talking about politics was a good idea.

Yes, the fan man had nothing to do with multiple failed 5-year plans because implementing a command economy is historically such a successful endeavor.

What the soviets and cpc have accomplished with central planning is undeniably remarkable.

Horseshoe theory confirmed lol

Imagine what Cuba would look like if the Free Market decided who got to eat and receive medicine when there is barely enough food for the population due to the recently intensified blockade.

They couldn't accomplish it without mass human rights abuses. It's nothing to be proud of and they're certainly not a role model worth emulating.

What's a role model worth emulating

Use your imagination. There's no need to accept disgusting disregard for human life, for any purpose. It makes no sense to act like they did something good. Stop idolizing the human predators of humans.

Well we have two competing large economic systems at the moment. I don't really have to use my imagination.

It's weird we only talk about "human rights abuses" when talking about designated bad countries. I'm sure that's just a coincidence.

It’s weird we only talk about “human rights abuses” when talking about designated bad countries

Is "we" in the room with us right now? I'm me, not we.

We are literally discussing them right now.

No, I don't remember mentioning a specific country. In fact I recall condemning human rights abuses "for any purpose", which means I don't care who does it or why, it's wrong anyway.

They couldn't accomplish it without mass human rights abuses. It's nothing to be proud of and they're certainly not a role model worth emulating.

You said this in response to the point that planned economies in the USSR and China have accomplished quite a lot.

So you said this in particular referring to those two countries.

And those countries are guilty as described. However, they are not special in this regard. That's why I don't specify.

Edit: Ohhh, I get it. You're a tanky and you're mad because I said something mean about your dictatorship of choice. Lol. Adios.

You didn't say anything except that you agree with the US about the USSR and China.