I'm not a troll, I just call other people out for their BS.

I think most of lemmy.today is bad faith astroturfing.

This is not the first time !PapaSkwat@lemmy.today has preemptively banned me from a community I'm pretty sure I've never interacted with.

This is a warning for others. Do not assume posts on Lemmy.today are real or in good faith.

Here is a related post with similar circumstances.

https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/57218230

OMG who gives a shit about voting, these people are out of their minds

I'm pretty sure I never voted on a single post from that community, but I did down vote one of that mods posts one time and was banned from a lot of communities they mod immediately after. I guess I'm on their premature block list or something.

Man, I wonder how many crappy comms I've never heard of have banned me because I downvote something that appeared on the front page?

Haha, fuck 'em.

Wait, did they label you a fascist too? I mean ad-homs/pejoratives like that tell me all I need to know.

"I wouldn't be a member of any club that would have me".

I'd wear the ban proudly.

It looks like OP has tagged the mod as fascist?

Ptb, but good they seem open to discuss. Better than just shutting the door on you. Could have been worse

I had tagged the mod previously

Why are you (presumably) subscribing to AI communities when you hate AI?

Yep

Open to discuss a preemptive ban?

Sure I guess, that's much better than banning me after downvoting one post on a different community.

I didn't, I just saw this in my mod log. I've never interacted with this community to my knowledge.

PS, AI is a very broad term. I wouldn't say I hate AI. But I do hate generative AI (genAI) which includes LLMs and models that generate images, videos, and audio. I especially hate the resources used for its compute, the way it poisons our environment and that it is being sold at massive losses like a drug to get people hooked. Also I think genAI is a tool to surveil, control, and isolate its users. Most of what genAI does means other humans are taken out of the loop which I think is extremely detrimental to human society. We should be coming together more than we should be trying to do things alone what a stolen facsimile of a human.

Yeah Lemmy mods really have nothing better to do

Honestly, I think it is more insidious.

Astroturfing

What's being astroturfed?

doesnt seem like community anyone should use anyway if they have admins like that. so maybe he did you a favor?

I'm not complaining that I was banned from the community, I'm issuing a general PSA.

Feels more like lemmy.today is just a terrible place

Don't get me wrong, it's stupid, but if you aren't even worried about that comm I'd just ignore it. Some people just want the power. If the community is small, I doubt it's worth much thought. Don't let it bend you outta shape.

From the mod side of things, it can fuck up discovery of posts, artificially hiding things from any feed option but new. A smaller community might even need to do this kind of thing on occasion.

I'm just dubious that this case matches need at all.

Yeah, it's a PTB for sure. Skwat is hinky as fuck often enough that even though a preemptive ban isn't automatically PTB, them doing so makes me assume it is until proven otherwise.

Mind you, I ain't hatin, just pointing out that the mod in question is of uncertain motivation imo.

I was literally just in a ModAbuse comm complaining about the same person! I got the pre-ban as well, as if I wanted to join a comm about celebrating mediocrity.

DonaldJMusk is a troll and a baby.

Not sure if I’m allowed to post here to defend myself, so sorry if I’m breaking etiquette. I will only respond to OP, regardless of other comments in this thread, so that it doesn't look like I'm here to cause drama. I have responded others here now, becuase mods said it was ok to.

First off, OP, you can ignore my reply from earlier today. I thought you were talking about a post I had just made in FuckCars, so if I seemed completely clueless, it’s because I was. I didn’t realize you were referring to a ban from my community. I didn't know what you were talking about because the message seemed so random.

Now back to me banning you from my new community, it's because you said this about me (https://infosec.pub/comment/22883460):

"https://lemmy.today/c/news is a fascist anti-woke instance, and @PapaSkwat@lemmy.today will ban you for downvoting or disagreeing in anyway.

I’m surprised they even posted this article but I think it may just be to grow their terrible community.

Point is, don’t crosspost them. If you think it should be shared then just make a newpost, don’t give them traffic or normalization."

You said that in response to me posting this article: https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/us-accuses-american-of-allegedly-wiping-his-phone-using-a-duress-password-during-border-search/

That isn’t a fascist article, and I don’t post fascist content.

You said my community is "anti-woke" whatever that means (it's not, based on how I view that silly term), and you said it's a fascist community. None of that is true.

Yes, I ban serial downvoters too and I realize this is controversial. Many people say that votes don't even count and that I shouldn't be a baby. If they don't count, then why use them to come to my community and just downvote every single post?

That's a hypothetical question, because I'm not sure if I'm allowed to respond to other people than OP. So I'm not ignoring anyone, I'm just not trying to break rules in this community.

I'm prebanned from plenty of communities that I've never posted in or interacted with too. So I'm not immune to this effect. I just start my own community to post content I feel should be out there.

I'm not wanting to kick a hornets nest here, just trying to clear up OP's concerns.

You are saying you preemptively banned me for something I said about a different one of you terrible communities in a different community you don't mod as justification?

Also, please do respond to others here.

Edit:
This is not the first time you've banned me for no reason. And I stand behind my comments.

https://lemmy.world/post/40009107

PapaSkwat exists on half a dozen different instances. A good number of them post in news and political comms in addition to a bunch of plain things meant to water down their feed. They mod a bunch of those comms and feature/unfeature posts to manipulate the modlog. Not to mention they're doing this with about a dozen accounts. The loser even admitted it in a DM.

Yes. You publicly called me a fascist, called my community fascist, and told people not to interact with it. That seemed to be pretty clear to me how you intended to engage with communities I run, so I preemptively banned you. It wasn’t because you disagreed with me. It was because of how you chose to characterize me and my community.

I can accept being called an asshole or whatever, but I refuse to accept being called a fascist. Sorry, that's a line I'm gonna have to draw.

You stated that you stand behind your statements. I can respect that. I stand behind mine too. If mods here tell me I can respond to other peoples comments here, I will, as long as the comments and questions are in good faith.

As a mod of a small community myself, I've never felt the need to research who downvoted a post and ban them.

I called you and your communities fascist after you banned me and proved to me that you were in fact and often act in bad faith.

Everything you are saying continues to prove that to me.

Notice the timestamps.

If you think banning you from communities I run makes me a fascist, then I don’t know what to tell you. I respect you as a person, but it's pretty clear to me that we have very different definitions of fascism, and we’re probably not going to agree on this. In my opinion, I’m a narcissistic ass, not a fascist. Big difference.

Go for it, there's no rule against it.

Got it. As for my hornet’s nest analogy, I have a feeling replying to everyone would just be like swinging wildly at the whole swarm. So I’ll pick and choose carefully and try not to turn this into an endless flamewar.

I think you are a fascist for banning me over anti-fascist statements, and for the things you've said and posted in other places in the Fediverse among your many alts.

I've given background in my other reply in this thread. OP called me a fascist and called my community, !news@lemmy.today a fascist community. Then proceeded to recommend people avoided it (https://infosec.pub/comment/22883460). So I didn't feel that he was going to be overly friendly in my new community either.

Don't judge an entire instance based on me.

We do, we just just choose not to do those other things.

I would like this to be answered too. Feel free to check out any of my communities and see if you find anything. There is nothing even worth astroturfing. Nothing I post is very serious.

He labeled me and my community as fascist: https://infosec.pub/comment/22883460

To be clear, OP did DM me but I noticed if right after I posted an article to the FuckCars community, so I totally misunderstood what he was talking about. I mistakenly thought he was talking about that post, because I wasn't aware of this current post. I am always open to discuss stuff.

This right here is an issue I have with you, and maybe explains your earlier bans that I handed out. I have never banned you for being anti-fascist. You just say shit like that about me, and I'm just not gonna be a part of that.

There’s no Lemmy rule against having accounts on multiple instances. It's actually made for having multiples. I actually recommend having more than one account for privacy and shit.

I only have communities under this name though and have never encountered you anywhere else.

No clue where you are, but I live in the US, and I have very fucking serious concerns about expanding government surveillance. Instances go down. Accounts get compromised or snooped on. Governments collect data. I don’t think anyone should put their entire online identity behind one username on one server. The government is totally fucking watching this platform and all the ones where people speak out.

Fuck that shit, and I think anyone who exists on just one server is insane.

I will judge you and the instance

I'm glad to know that you disagree with fascism.

I do have my reasons for my opinion, but I am open minded and I know people change. However, I'm also cautious.

I'll be keeping tabs to see if your actions correlate with your statements.

I don't consider what I did as PTB, but I really am hinky as fuck (I don't know what that means but sounds fun), so I can't be hatin.

I’ll be keeping tabs to see if your actions correlate with your statements.

Cool, have at it.

Ok, then go for it. I choose not to judge an entire instance based on things you say because you’re one person. But you should go and do whatever you feel is right. One of the biggest things I like about Lemmy is that we get to choose our own communities, rules, and viewpoints without one central authority deciding what everyone is supposed to think. Lemmy.today isn't the only instance in town, so you're allowed to judge them all you want.

That's an odd way to phrase there's a multiple places that allows you to be terrible to others on the internet. Although not as surprising as a person constantly trying to get others to be OK with terrible behaviors

Their behavior in the other thread and this one is incredibly telling

How have I been terrible to others on the internet? How have I tried to get others to be ok with terrible behaviors? I'm no saint, and I can be a dick sometimes (most times), but I disagree that I have ever been terrible to anyone.

What behaviors are you seeing that are troubling? What other thread?

ModAbuse is a satire comm fyi

Congratulations.

I'm just saying it's a valid tool, not that it has to be done willy nilly

Wow, there's a name I haven't thought about in a while. When I briefly had an account on lemmy.today, I was always struck by all the posts when I logged in and saw the local feed.