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cannedtuna
lemmy.world
cannedtuna@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-21 |
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Multiplexer
discuss.tchncs.de
Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-08-25 |
And, from the "size really doesn't matter that much" faction, the neutrino just arrived... |
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frog
feddit.uk
frog@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-03-20 |
What prevents Superman from being able to see through lead but not concrete? |
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ItsAlwaysDNS
sh.itjust.works
ItsAlwaysDNS@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-24 |
Aren't Gamma-Rays impossible to stop even with lead? You can only weaken them. |
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cybervseas
lemmy.world
cybervseas@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
And, from the "size really doesn't matter that much" faction, the neutrino just arrived...
They come and just keep going. |
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ceenote
lemmy.world
ceenote@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
What prevents Superman from being able to see through lead but not concrete?
Comic book authors |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
What prevents Superman from being able to see through lead but not concrete?
If you're talking about the neutron it's because concrete has a lot of hydrogen. Alpha particles, beta particles, and light (gamma rays in this picture) interact with electrons, with the probability of being stopped increasing with electron density. Lead has a lot of electrons (its lower on the periodic table, called a "high z" element). Neutrons, however, don't care about electrons and instead interact with the nucleus, with the probability of being stopped depending on the spin state of the nucleus and the neutron. This doesn't follow a specific pattern on the periodic table, but hydrogen has a big chance of interacting with the neutron while lead doesn't. Cadmium, boron, and I think lithium 7 also would stop neutrons easily (there are more of course but those are what I remember offhand). |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Aren't Gamma-Rays impossible to stop even with lead? You can only weaken them.
Gamma rays are stopped by things with a lot of electrons, so a sufficiently thick block of lead will stop it EDIT: higher energy light has more penetration power (so gammas are quire penetrating), but it's a finite value |
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Fargeol
lemmy.world
fargeol@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-06-10 |
Tell me more about how you're unstable, full of bugs and need to finish your development |
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Endymion_Mallorn
kbin.melroy.org
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.orgJoined: 2024-11-17 |
And, from the "size really doesn't matter that much" faction, the neutrino just arrived...
The Neutrinos? From Dimension X? They're so cool they're frozen! |
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Endymion_Mallorn
kbin.melroy.org
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.orgJoined: 2024-11-17 |
Well, duh. Did you not notice the blonde constantly chasing him? |
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Klear
piefed.world
Klear@piefed.world Joined: 2026-05-14 |
If you're talking about the neutron it's because concrete has a lot of hydrogen. Alpha particles, beta particles, and light (gamma rays in this picture) interact with electrons, with the probability of being stopped increasing with electron density. Lead has a lot of electrons (its lower on the periodic table, called a "high z" element). Neutrons, however, don't care about electrons and instead...
Nah, that's not what they're talking about. Superman's vision is capable of penetrating concrete, but gets reliably stopped by lead. None of the particles here (or, I'm guessing, anywhere) have that property. |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Nah, that's not what they're talking about. Superman's vision is capable of penetrating concrete, but gets reliably stopped by lead. None of the particles here (or, I'm guessing, anywhere) have that property.
Gammas might be able to penetrate a little bit of concrete, since concrete has lower electron density than lead |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
Nah, that's not what they're talking about. Superman's vision is capable of penetrating concrete, but gets reliably stopped by lead. None of the particles here (or, I'm guessing, anywhere) have that property.
Gamma rays kinda do, you need 10x more concrete to block them than lead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-value_layer |
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Speiser0
feddit.org
Speiser0@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-27 |
How much concrete do you actually need to stop a neutron with probability 1/2? Is 1 lightsecond enough? |
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Funkt4st1c
lemmy.world
Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-07-30 |
Tbf you actually want 0 penetration. Its already a hole, you just want to insert yourself into said preexisting hole. Making a new one is probably a bad idea |
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Mark with a Z
suppo.fi
markz@suppo.fi Joined: 2025-07-04 |
Yeah I'm a Neutron Male |
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chuckleslord
lemmy.world
chuckleslord@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-12 |
Yeah I'm a Neutron Male
"Oh, that's-" The speaker was crushed as OPs sudden extreme gravity ripped the earth asunder |
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bedwyr
piefed.ca
bedwyr@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-03-23 |
Yeah I'm a Neutron Male
I am a gamma male. |
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tetris11
feddit.uk
tetris11@feddit.ukJoined: 2025-02-17 |
"Oh, that's-" The speaker was crushed as OPs sudden extreme gravity ripped the earth asunder
I see you've met my cat |
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tetris11
feddit.uk
tetris11@feddit.ukJoined: 2025-02-17 |
If you're talking about the neutron it's because concrete has a lot of hydrogen. Alpha particles, beta particles, and light (gamma rays in this picture) interact with electrons, with the probability of being stopped increasing with electron density. Lead has a lot of electrons (its lower on the periodic table, called a "high z" element). Neutrons, however, don't care about electrons and instead...
what do neutrons care about though? how do we appeal to that demographic? |
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Klear
piefed.world
Klear@piefed.world Joined: 2026-05-14 |
Gamma rays kinda do, you need 10x more concrete to block them than lead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-value_layer
Phew, good to know. I was beginning to think Superman isn't real. |
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abbadon420
sh.itjust.works
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-28 |
Tbf you actually want 0 penetration. Its already a hole, you just want to insert yourself into said preexisting hole. Making a new one is probably a bad idea
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burgermeister
sh.itjust.works
burgermeister@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-10 |
Yeah I'm a Neutron Male
Gotta blast! |
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madmantis24
lemmy.wtf
madmantis24@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2026-01-14 |
I am a gamma male.
Sweet, Dr. Banner is on the Fediverse! |
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ramble81
lemmy.zip
ramble81@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-08 |
Yeah I'm a Neutron Male
Gives new meaning to Jimmy Neutron |
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WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
lemmy.world
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Aren't Gamma-Rays impossible to stop even with lead? You can only weaken them.
The madder they get, the stronger they get. |
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iocase
lemmy.zip
iocase@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-05-11 |
Yeah! Well if i get inside your body 🥵 (IF) I can rip your DNA to shreds unlike any of those other beta or gamma particles 😤 |
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iocase
lemmy.zip
iocase@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-05-11 |
Tell me more about how you're unstable, full of bugs and need to finish your development
And they're so insanely positive all the time that they can rip the negativity out of you twice in such a way that it scrambles your DNA. Never underestimate the toxic positivity of an alpha particle... |
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BierSoggyBeard
feddit.online
BierSoggyBeard@feddit.online Joined: 2025-01-19 |
Neutron Male don't interact with nuthin'. |
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Boozilla
sh.itjust.works
Boozilla@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-16 |
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FundMECFS
piefed.zip
FundMECFS@piefed.zipJoined: 2025-08-03 |
Yet 2 meters of water will stop neutrons. Water is pretty cool. |
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bingrazer
lemmy.world
bingrazer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
what do neutrons care about though? how do we appeal to that demographic?
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xzìiïiïiÃñìiïiïiÃk
feddit.cl
xzinik@feddit.clJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Yet 2 meters of water will stop neutrons. Water is pretty cool.
or 4 morbid humans on each direction |
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CileTheSane
lemmy.ca
CileTheSane@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-08-21 |
Tell me more about how you're unstable, full of bugs and need to finish your development
And unfit for the pubic to interact with. |
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NGC2346
sh.itjust.works
NGC2346@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-11 |
Yet 2 meters of water will stop neutrons. Water is pretty cool.
This is why you need to drink a lot of water |
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Rato
sh.itjust.works
Rato@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-16 |
Yet 2 meters of water will stop neutrons. Water is pretty cool.
Sure, but just because it's chock full of Hydrogen, which happens to be about the same mass as a neutron and thus takes up a lot of its energy per collision. Plastic, being a hydrocarbon, does the same thing. That being said, water is pretty cool. You could use 2 inches of lead to stop 90% of gamma radiation, or 2 feet of water for the same effect. On top of that, metal is terrible at slowing neutrons (due to metal not being hydrogen), but that same 2 feet of water will slow down the neutrons by about 99.5%. |
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smeenz
lemmy.nz
smeenz@lemmy.nz Joined: 2023-07-11 |
What prevents Superman from being able to see through lead but not concrete?
Narrativium |
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JasonDJ
lemmy.zip
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-01-16 |
Sure, but just because it's chock full of Hydrogen, which happens to be about the same mass as a neutron and thus takes up a lot of its energy per collision. Plastic, being a hydrocarbon, does the same thing. That being said, water is pretty cool. You could use 2 inches of lead to stop 90% of gamma radiation, or 2 feet of water for the same effect. On top of that, metal is terrible at slowing n...
Hydrogen's cool man. It's just like, one little proton out there in the universe, with his Jiminy Cricket Electron buddy circling around all times, making sure he stays balanced. An unfathomable number of them, more than anything else. All exactly the same yet repelled by each other, like speed dating at comic-con. |
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porous_grey_matter
lemmy.ml
porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-12-09 |
Sure, but just because it's chock full of Hydrogen, which happens to be about the same mass as a neutron and thus takes up a lot of its energy per collision. Plastic, being a hydrocarbon, does the same thing. That being said, water is pretty cool. You could use 2 inches of lead to stop 90% of gamma radiation, or 2 feet of water for the same effect. On top of that, metal is terrible at slowing n...
It is because of the hydrogen, but it's not really to do with the mass, but rather because a "collision"/interaction is much more likely. For instance, ^58^Ni has the same likelihood to interact as hydrogen, while deuterium has only a fifth. ^135^Xe meanwhile has some millions of times the absorption power of hydrogen and it's quite a lot heavier. It's just not very practical as an absorber. |
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