Well the cop did literally jump in front of him. So if the lawyer is any good at all I imagine he can probably get a little leeway.

This thread is a cesspit. I didn't know lemmy attracted these types.

Not my country either but this scramblers and quads is like a street culture and delinquent shit over in the states

The cop was visible on the road for several seconds before the collision, he did not jump in front

Oh no, they are falling over at brisk walking speeds because they fumbled to just put their foot down when the vehicle slowed to a halt. My pearls, where are they?

Spoken like someone who hasn’t a tire blowout on a motorcycle. Or an idiot.

So the officer similarly wasn’t hurt, since it was just walking speeds?

Any trip over the handlebars is potentially lethal. You’re a callous moron.

I dislike cops but in this scenario they are not the villains.

Seems it's fairly common in Ye Olde England as well.

Not sure why you feel the need to bring up the US.

What that cop was trying to do, would have caused a serious accident and injuries if he had succeeded. Cops are always the villains, harassing teenagers and brutalizing people protesting against genocide, while protecting rich pedophiles.

What about the serious accident and injuries that the idiots could have caused by hitting children or someone's pet crossing the road?

Your logic is "I was driving recklessly downtown and your putting an obstacle in my way is endangering me".

No, it wasn't the policeman endangering the biker group here, it was the people driving recklessly.

Vigilante traffic cops are fun

If by "leeway", you mean "additional charges for driving without due care and attention", because he wasn't able to stop in a 40kmph zone when something had been in view for 10 seconds, and seemed to be going so fast that he carried on for 50 feet after running down the emergency worker, then you'd be right!

Lets all hope he gets all the leeway he can.

The person trained for high-speed driving is driving at a speed that untrained people claim is too fast for that person's ability in those circumstances while driving for work as an emergency worker?

Dunning-kruger is right.

But "he's a kid man, a kid"

Like holy crap I wish somebody would smack the guy recording upside the head

"They" being the motorcyclists, not the cops.

I think they are managing to do that without the cops assistance.

Kill!? Haha Holy shit the things people say on here sometimes.

Completely devoid of reality.

Like the spike strip was going to gently slow the bike(s) down and maneuver them out of each others’ way?

Completely devoid of reality, indeed.

How do those fascist boots taste, you carbrained idiot?

You realize the inconvenience and endanger everyone they pass for the duration of their ride right? Not just your little blip…

Depending on the belt used the tires don't actually just "pop" like in the movies. They get holds such causes them to deflate and become undeliverable. Ever got a punctured tire before? It's not an instant process by any means.

There are belts can actually make larger holes as the spike comes out, but this doesn't seem to be the case here.

It’s actually really easy to not be a selfish piece of shit. Most people do it all the time. These shitty kids made their choices, and they weren’t good ones.

So ripping through town and running over a kid or a dog is hero behavior now?

there's quite a bit of nasty old heads, I'm finding. On one hand, they were here first but on the other their main forms of engaging with other people is is either this pearl clutching or being unprovokedly nasty in attempt to "toughen people up".

Do you think the office was badly, potentially lethally, hurt?

Always be attacking, eh? Don’t answer my question but expect me to answer yours?

Yes, being knocked over like that is potentially lethal.

As would be abruptly stopping those on the bikes.

Here’s a man being knocked over at 0 mph and receiving a concussion at best: https://youtu.be/-HFsRn-oKd4

Which was the point I made. That you haven’t countered.

And, again, what offense did each and every single biker do to merit a cop recklessly endangering their life?

“Traffic” takes over multiple lanes while stunting and deliberately antagonizing normal drivers? Sure, bud.

They didn't seem to be driving very recklessly to me. Just in a big group. That cop could have caused a serious accident to many of them, and you would have cheered because "these damn kids".

You legit think the cop thought “Hey, let me kill these kids!”

Did you even go outside as a kid? I can’t tell you how many times I’ve fallen off a bike at those slow speeds. Not even close to a death sentence. If falling at those speeds scares you, you are either 80 years old, or 300 pounds.

Calling me fascist is hilarious 😂

Are you gunna pose an actual argument? Or are you gunna act like an insecure internet child slinging insults?

Carbrained? Wow you can’t stay on topic can you.

Cars already take over the roads, why shouldn't people try to take them back?

My local bicycle ride that blocks intersections while the riders go through is known and protected by the police -- the legal theory is that if the front of a vehicle entered the intersection on a green light, the "vehicle" can continue through the intersection if the light changes. And a group of people riding bikes as one unit is considered one vehicle.

A bike ride with many people in it is considered a single vehicle if they all ride together with no big gaps through the intersection. There are volunteers called "corkers" who will stand in front of the intersection to clearly signal to motor vehicles that it is not safe to enter the intersection yet. They're trained in deescalation in case someone is really upset that they had to wait an extra minute or two on a Friday night.

Here's an article if anyone is interested.

https://grist.org/cities/bike-party-a-fresh-new-way-to-take-back-the-streets/

It is so bizzare... Almost every comment has more down- than upvotes.

Why are you comparing two completely different things? Are you being deliberately dense to start an argument? You are comparing a known sanctioned cycling event to illegal riders, and illegal riders to licensed and insured drivers who legally have a right to the road.

If that kid or dog is trying to kill people, then maybe, depending on the circumstances. Obviously if it was an actual kid, you would have to approach the situation with the care it deserves...but also, for example, I would have literally zero qualms about running over a minor committing a school shooting if that was the only option to stop the violence.

Like if it was a person in a different uniform using a baseball bat instead of a car you wouldn't bat a fucking eye at someone using a weapon to defend innocent people.

They’re like those biker tools that block intersections so the entire gang gets through or street takeovers.

This sentence describes bike party to a t, which is not really officially sanctioned -- they just give the police a heads up to be nice.

I am not trying to be dense, i am just trying to explain why bicyclists block intersections to let the whole group go through. It is partially to protest cars.

The ones I see aren’t cyclists participating in group events. It’s dirt bikes, atv’s, and now even some e-bikes, unlicensed, unsanctioned, stunt riding and being general assholes on the road. Stop trying to twist reality into somehow legitimizing their BS.

Yes, I think the cop went full Judge Dredd and didn’t consider who he would injure or how bad.

I’ve posted an argument and you’ve called me a three hundred pound 80-year-old (so what if I am?).

Your carbrain is completely obvious. And if you think the officer was justified in possibly killing people (for what perceived offense?), guess what? Fascist, too.

I dont see why the roads should only be for "licensed" cars. Stunt riding is fine as long as it doesn't hurt people. Sometimes they join in the bike party. It seems like you're trying to say the roads should exclude all these vehicles, when I would like more ebikes on the road and less cars. Dirt bikes and atvs can come too.

He was in that lane for like 30s. You might get away with that argument with a two wheeler.

You might want to look again. At about second 22 of the video you'll notice he literally jumps to the right to put himself in front of the ATV.

the cop was attempting to get back from the motorcycles raging through. he was also wearing high-vis PPE.

furthermore, the ATV rider attempted to continue to flee until the officer pulled them off the vehicle.

ACAB but that doesn't mean lawlessness is better.

Yeah, the big meanies should just let them snatch all the phones they want and terrorise pedestrians.

Go fuck yourself.

Skill issue.

Those are called pedestrians.

And they're also on the footpath.

No, they don't. Have you ever seen MotoGP? Those guys will drop their bike at hundreds of KMH, get up, and walk away quite often.

Ah yes, the only to options:

• Terror
• Risk of bodily harm

Surely there is no nuance or inbetween option available. Surely they should just get the death penalty for such horrid theft and disrespect of the sanctity of physical posessions.

While I don't like these bike gangs, what the police was doing is reckless. I would argue the guy on the quad just feared for his life, because the spikes could have caused an accident. So he did the safe thing and went around them, and the cop just happened to be jaywalking there.

I'm not shooting you with my gun. I'm just pointing it in a random direction. If your body happens to be in the way of my bullets, that's your problem.

Oh fuck off. The safest thing to do is to stop and take your punishment.

They probably added a year to their sentence with that stunt, and they deserve it.

It's Blahaj, they're not known for their intelligence.

So the punishment for violating road rules is execution by cop? You're talking about attempted murder here.

We don't execute people for traffic violations!