Good point, has any good prospective study been done on this? Seems like something that really should be studied with methodology that can prove or disprove causation.

If you haven't tried it because you have to avoid alcohol, good news - alcohol free wine is hitting the market.

Tbh, it's not the most amazing example of wine, but the ones I tried were not awful either. It would give you a good example how wine tastes like.

Yes, artificial sweeteners are literally the most studied food in human history. There are a lot of different chemicals involved so I won’t make any sweeping statements, but all of the most popular ones have been proven over and over to be harmless.

But then things get complicated because the sugar lobby will fund a rat study where they inject an absolutely insane amount of sweeteners into their blood and it obviously fucks them up. Then they publish a study about how the sweeteners cause all kinds of ailments. But when you actually look into it (nobody does) you realize they injected the equivalent of drinking 100 Liters of soda per day, which obviously nobody does.

I wanna drink alcohol bro.

alcohol is driving?

Flip side of the studies that show people that eat almonds as a snack live longer.

Almonds are fucking expensive, yo. If you're snacking on almonds, you're doing OK already.

personally I don't think any alcoholic beverage tastes good - at least not the traditional ones like wine, beer, spirits. I do still drink and have done since I was a kid because it does make you feel kind of happy and socialising is easier and more enjoyable. (just two or three drinks though - more than that and it starts having negative effects)

because they can't afford it. prices are up, incomes are down. Gen Z starting incomes aren't much higher than the start incomes of people from 10-20 year ago, but booze prices are triple what they were, i've actually seen them start to come down recently because well, even older folks can't afford $20 cocktails or $20 four packs of beer. when I was 25 $20 got you a 24 pack of craft beer. or a 48 of the cheap shit.

No one recommends 9 hours sleep. Humans in the wild (hunter gatherers) sleep about 6 hours. People in the industrialised world sleep about 7 or 8 hours. We don't know whether 8 hours is better or worse than six

Good for riding through a desert

Exactly!

I meant that plenty of people drink reasonable amounts alcohol all the time with no apparent issues.

I always thought horses could murder someone because that's their idea of a good joke.

Most horse people I know (me included) are BROKE because we choose to have horse(s) when we really shouldn't. Bad financial decisions for sure, but most horse people have a passion for the creatures and don't let things like finances get in the way.

There have been days where I've skipped meals in order to buy my horse her supplements. Not many days, but a couple. My bond with horses is what keeps me going when I'm at my lowest, so I refuse to give them up. My mom and grandma will occasionally sneak me a few bucks to help because they're almost as invested in my horse as I am.

Here's the horse tax:

It means that any amount of alcohol increases the odds of you dying sooner or having other negative health effects sooner (which will lead to you dying sooner). There is no amount that won't increase those odds. It says nothing about how much any given drink would impact your life span. I'm not saying it's negligible or significant, but I can't be bothered to look it up.

I think at that point it just varies too much by individual. Some people are completely fine with 6 hours a night. I am not one of those people.

“Two to three jobs” is already a statement that in Europe would apply to basically no one, while it’s a common reality in US

what? they are fairly cheap for a nut. that's why they are so ubiquitous. walnut, pecan, pistachio, macademia... all more per lb.

most other nuts cost more, excluding peanuts.

almonds are about 5 dollars a lb raw, which is the price of cheap cuts of chicken, which is by far the cheapest meat on the market.

Come on, you have to say it's positively correlated rather than causative that's the whole point of the thread.

This isn't a hill I want to die on, but I don't think it's a meaningful claim without a bit more nuance.

Well, the WHO puts it in the same category as tobacco. Is tobacco just strongly correlated to cancer? And I don't need to say it is causative, because The Lancet did.

You can stack that data up against your anecdotes however you like.

"Some studies are done with funding contingent on a certain result, therefore all science is junk and science as an institution is untrustworthy"

That's teetotal, nothing to do with the nice hot cuppa

Also last time I saw teetotalers being less healthy than occasional drinkers was decades ago before never drinking became normal among the youth as they came of age

Back then the only reason to not drink was to treat alcoholism or a serious problem. Now people abstain because their friends do

Sure. Any driving you do increases your risk of death. But it's likely you need to drive for other reasons that reduce your risk of death (like buying food).

Drinking is different because no one needs to drink.

They are varied. Red wines have more tannins than white, white wines come in different sweetness, with the less sweet ones described as dry

If you wanted to try a red wine I would suggest starting on merlot

I wouldn't recommend drinking an entire bottle in a day. Opened wine can be kept in the fridge for a few days

Did you read that paper? I don't believe it supports your argument.

The mechanism by which smoking causes e.g. lung cancer and the significant rate at which it does so is well understood. I'm not convinced the same can currently be said of alcohol.

Haha, ymmv but I find driving to be unnecessary

Yes but this depends significantly on where you live.

Implied Causation #2: health insurance has a bearing on longer life

Health insurance doesn't equal Healthcare

For sure, I'm very lucky to live where I do.

Implied Causation #3: Health insurance isn’t effective at insuring health, thus the implied causation needs to be explicitly noted

Shiiit for a second I thought that said “Implied Caucasian”

The basic recipe for wine is grape juice, yeast, and time, and yeasts are everywhere. It's not hard to "accidentally" turn an opened bottle of grape juice into wine.

Yeap, an unfortunate side effect of "Obamacare" mandating corporations provide coverage for full time employees was everyone cutting hours back to make sure no one was full time. Labour laws here are a joke.

Yep.

I agree. Sitting my yass all day playing video games? Sure, 4-6 hours will be okay. Doing yard work and manual labor in 110 degree weather, I'll see you in 14 hours. Also, I have sleep apnea so I'm used to feeling dead all day.

All these comments are great, but the real mystery is:

Why did someone overlay a different font on top of the original graphic rather than just make a whole new graphic? Like, the work is exactly the same, and the rest of us can view sane font placement.

I wonder if this is something that changed over time. As in preservatives and all sorts of chemicals being added to tobacco or alcohol. For example, I can smoke Japanese cigarettes without a problem. I've smoked Vietnam era MRE cigarettes, Old Ukrainian unfiltered cigarettes. But I can't smoke US made ones since around 2007, they make me sick and taste like ash.

Nice yee yee ass horse you got there

Oh hi Sandy

ActUalLy: peanuts, although having 'nuts' in their name, are botanically speaking legumes from the family fabaceae, like lentils or chickpeas.

fermentation plays an important role in determining the taste i guess.

Well I don't think so cuz it is forced upon us, rather than our conscious choice. For rich, there is no problem though. They drink and party. These laws are implemented only on poor and middle class.

Original probably said 'correlation' when it should be causation. The correlation is established in the headline.

Apparently someone took that personally.

for a nut

Yeah, this isn't about comparing almonds vs. pistachios. This is about comparing almonds vs. hot cheetos and takis.

Which, granted, are closer in price now, but when that study came out and was all over the news, it was just classism wrapped up as some health news. At the time even jerky was about the same price as almonds, and gas stations wouldn't ever carry almonds. Sunflower seeds, peanuts, corn nuts, jerky.

How do you know if a wine is expired? Will it get insects on it or what?

Depends on the country.

I'm not a horse person, but having been around several, my understanding is that horses don't joke about that sort of thing. They take it very seriously indeed.

That, and, as the previous commenter said, get spooked by a rogue crisp packet, their own shadow, or the fact the sun has come up again.

That was exactly what I did lmfao. It was technically incorrect, so I made it technically correct lol.