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Even during a RAMpocalypse, Sony and Microsoft come across as less consumer-friendly than some PC brands with their refusal to give US tariff refunds back to consumers
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sanitation lemmy.today sanitation@lemmy.today
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thatKamGuy sh.itjust.works thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works
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Until and unless they face a mass revolt from their customer base - they will continue to introduce more and more anti-consumer practices.

However, given the general apathy regarding Sony’s decision to discontinue physical media - I don’t have much faith in Gamers^TM^ to rally in their own long-term interests.

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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As serious & terrible as it seems: pocketing rebates at the expense of their customers is pretty far down on the list of things they need to worry about.

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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Until and unless they face a mass revolt from their customer base - they will continue to introduce more and more anti-consumer practices. However, given the general apathy regarding Sony’s decision to discontinue physical media - I don’t have much faith in Gamers^TM^ to rally in their own long-term interests.

It won't be a revolution, it will be a mass exodus...as many of us have foreseen long ago.

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mursejoy lemmy.zip mursejoy@lemmy.zip
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It won't be a revolution, it will be a mass exodus...as many of us have foreseen long ago.

Yeah I’m just going to a different hobby. I don’t need to take up arms and fight against Microslop, I’ll just read my ereader with my drm free epubs.

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CameronDev programming.dev CameronDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-18
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Has any company given back the tariffs?

It honestly sounds like such a huge hassle to try give that money back. The amount of labor required would be huge, you'd need to check every receipt, probably manually. Make sure all of them are legit, aren't double submitted

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Akido37 lemmy.world Akido37@lemmy.world
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Has any company given back the tariffs? It honestly sounds like such a huge hassle to try give that money back. The amount of labor required would be huge, you'd need to check every receipt, probably manually. Make sure all of them are legit, aren't double submitted

Panic is refunding customers.

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gedfromgont piefed.ca gedfromgont@piefed.ca
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Has any company given back the tariffs? It honestly sounds like such a huge hassle to try give that money back. The amount of labor required would be huge, you'd need to check every receipt, probably manually. Make sure all of them are legit, aren't double submitted

I do not think that doing the right thing is difficult, is the customers problem here. The companies could have also just not given those costs forward to the customer, but they were very happy to do so, because, well... money.

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CameronDev programming.dev CameronDev@programming.dev
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Panic is refunding customers.

Good for them. Are they selling direct to customers though? If yes, they have all the customer and payment details already, so it would be relatively easy?

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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Yeah I’m just going to a different hobby. I don’t need to take up arms and fight against Microslop, I’ll just read my ereader with my drm free epubs.

Kobo reader on my kindle was a move I definitely don't regret.

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CameronDev programming.dev CameronDev@programming.dev
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I do not think that doing the right thing is difficult, is the customers problem here. The companies could have also just not given those costs forward to the customer, but they were very happy to do so, because, well... money.

Those tariffs would likely have eaten their entire margin so they have to pass it on. Even Panic had to pass them on.

Perhaps they could have gambled on the tariffs being rolled back, but if they got it wrong they would have lost money.

Its just a no-win scenario unless you can predict the future.

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Akido37 lemmy.world Akido37@lemmy.world
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Good for them. Are they selling direct to customers though? If yes, they have all the customer and payment details already, so it would be relatively easy?

Yeah, IIRC Panic had the tariffs as a separate line item when buying Playdates, so it seems like they were planning for this from the start.

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lastweakness lemmy.world lastweakness@lemmy.world
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Kobo reader on my kindle was a move I definitely don't regret.

KOReader I'm guessing? Awesome piece of software

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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KOReader I'm guessing? Awesome piece of software

Yes KOReader, thank you. Kindle is (was) super easy to jailbreak, and I did it specifically for that program. I used to hate the default program. Hardly any customizations and ran horribly.

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lastweakness lemmy.world lastweakness@lemmy.world
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Yes KOReader, thank you. Kindle is (was) super easy to jailbreak, and I did it specifically for that program. I used to hate the default program. Hardly any customizations and ran horribly.

I have a Kobo Clara 2E with me and use KOReader on it as well. I have an Xteink X4 Pro and an X3 coming. Planning to flash Crosspoint, a community firmware, the second I get it in my hands. Should be a nice setup hopefully.

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diaphragmwp discuss.tchncs.de diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
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Panic is refunding customers.

Cool. It's cheap for them to do that because they are selling an extremely overpriced P.O.S. that requires an account to use and becomes e-waste iPhone style if it gets passed around owners and the previous one doesn't "unlink" it.

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yermaw sh.itjust.works yermaw@sh.itjust.works
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#17 · Quote Reply

Until and unless they face a mass revolt from their customer base - they will continue to introduce more and more anti-consumer practices. However, given the general apathy regarding Sony’s decision to discontinue physical media - I don’t have much faith in Gamers^TM^ to rally in their own long-term interests.

They seem to use eachother in a stepping-stone or leapfrog or something tactic.

One does something shitty, the other goes "lmao we would never" then a year or two later they're both doing it saying "well its just normal"

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brem lemmy.world brem@lemmy.world
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#18 · Quote Reply

I have a Kobo Clara 2E with me and use KOReader on it as well. I have an Xteink X4 Pro and an X3 coming. Planning to flash Crosspoint, a community firmware, the second I get it in my hands. Should be a nice setup hopefully.

I hadn't heard of crosspoint. Looking at development, it seems like they add a lot every month. I like that. Amazing what a group of determined users can do to improve upon a thing companies should've done in the first place...

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spacegoat lemmy.world spacegoat@lemmy.world
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#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don’t plan to ever pay for a game console or game again

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lastweakness lemmy.world lastweakness@lemmy.world
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I hadn't heard of crosspoint. Looking at development, it seems like they add a lot every month. I like that. Amazing what a group of determined users can do to improve upon a thing companies should've done in the first place...

Exactly... I've been following their development for a while and just can't see myself using the stock software on that device. That said, I have to appreciate Xteink regardless because they ship unlocked devices and their default software also doesn't have any kind of forced login, unlike Kobo and Kindle. I might make an ereader in the future though, would be nice

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burido lemmy.world burido@lemmy.world
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#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wow who's shocked? The PlayStations were already being sold for a loss and now the production costs are going up? Who would have thunk that they're going to try to squeeze every penny that they can?

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