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PugJesus piefed.social PugJesus@piefed.social
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Γιανίρης kolektiva.social iriyan@kolektiva.social
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Not enough profit for industry to bribe military advisors and heavy brass to approve it, there are no gas engines in that size currently produced or developed to match, and NATO has adopted a single fuel policy from motorcycles to fighter jets (kerosene?) but 4 of the old ones have the same payload as one of the new, still at a fraction of the cost.@PugJesus

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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I mean tbf..... 4x the payload is kinda the most important stat for a tank destroyer. Also I'd be willing to bet the single 30mm chain gun would outperform 4 20mm guns.

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PugJesus Moderator PugJesus@piefed.social
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I mean tbf..... 4x the payload is kinda the most important stat for a tank destroyer. Also I'd be willing to bet the single 30mm chain gun would outperform 4 20mm guns.

b-b-b-but more dakka

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-09
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b-b-b-but more dakka

I actually had to look this up, but it's honestly not as big of a difference as I was originally thinking.

The Corsair with 6x 12.7 would be putting out a combined approximately 4500 rounds a minute compared to the A-10s 30mm at about 3900 per minute.

I think the warthog still may be winning in the dakka race especially when considering the amount of lead being thrown.

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
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Definitely good enough for hunting Shaheds.

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Scratch sh.itjust.works DScratch@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
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b-b-b-but more dakka

more can mean biger dakka

bigger dakka do more

bigger dakka better dan smol dakka

carry less different dakka mean more dakka for only dakka

dat mean more dakka

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mercano lemmy.world mercano@lemmy.world
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I mean tbf..... 4x the payload is kinda the most important stat for a tank destroyer. Also I'd be willing to bet the single 30mm chain gun would outperform 4 20mm guns.

The titanium armored cockpit is also great to have when you’re frequent called in to do close air support.

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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The titanium armored cockpit is also great to have when you’re frequent called in to do close air support.

What happens when someone attempts to answer the question "why don't they just make the whole plane out of the black box"?

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mercano lemmy.world mercano@lemmy.world
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I actually had to look this up, but it's honestly not as big of a difference as I was originally thinking. The Corsair with 6x 12.7 would be putting out a combined approximately 4500 rounds a minute compared to the A-10s 30mm at about 3900 per minute. I think the warthog still may be winning in the dakka race especially when considering the amount of lead being thrown.

The A-10 can also sling depleted uranium instead of lead. Doesn’t make a difference when firing at infantry, but helps punch through armor when trying to stop Soviet tanks from pushing through Central Europe.

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Pommes_für_dein_Balg feddit.org mech@feddit.org
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I mean tbf..... 4x the payload is kinda the most important stat for a tank destroyer. Also I'd be willing to bet the single 30mm chain gun would outperform 4 20mm guns.

The Corsair has 10x the payload and 160 guns for the same cost as an A10.

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radix lemmy.world radix@lemmy.world
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I actually had to look this up, but it's honestly not as big of a difference as I was originally thinking. The Corsair with 6x 12.7 would be putting out a combined approximately 4500 rounds a minute compared to the A-10s 30mm at about 3900 per minute. I think the warthog still may be winning in the dakka race especially when considering the amount of lead being thrown.

Not a historian, nor a mathematician, so this is all subject to correction:

In the 6x12.7 configuration, the F4U can deliver something in the neighborhood of 91 megajoules of energy per minute, through with a small magazine, it's limited to about 22MJ total.

The single GAU-8 clocks in at around 780MJ/minute (8.5x) and 230MJ total (10.5x).

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UnspecificGravity piefed.social UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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I mean tbf..... 4x the payload is kinda the most important stat for a tank destroyer. Also I'd be willing to bet the single 30mm chain gun would outperform 4 20mm guns.

Four is more than one.

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P00ptart lemmy.world P00ptart@lemmy.world
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The A-10 can also sling depleted uranium instead of lead. Doesn’t make a difference when firing at infantry, but helps punch through armor when trying to stop Soviet tanks from pushing through Central Europe.

What Soviet tanks? 🤣

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UnspecificGravity piefed.social UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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#15 · Quote Reply

It's fun to consider that the Corsair with modern sensors would probably be a pretty effective anti drone and close air support platform in Ukraine.

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PugJesus Moderator PugJesus@piefed.social
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The titanium armored cockpit is also great to have when you’re frequent called in to do close air support.

tbf even at the time the A-10 was made that wasn't predicted to increase the survivability that much in its intended role. The entire fleet of some 700 A-10s was expected to last two weeks if war broke out with the Warsaw Pact.

Not two weeks on average. Two weeks to deplete the entire 700-strong fleet.

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-09
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The Corsair has 10x the payload and 160 guns for the same cost as an A10.

Maybe back when the US manufacturing was capable of plane factory go brrr noises. Could you imagine what Lockheed martin would charge nowadays to install each one of those rivets?

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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#18 · Quote Reply

Four is more than one.

Yes, but big is larger than small.

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UnspecificGravity piefed.social UnspecificGravity@piefed.social
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#19 · Quote Reply

Yes, but big is larger than small.

Its OK that you don't know how to do math, but let me make it clear for you:

4x20 = 80
1x30 = 30

Its pretty obvious which is better here.

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Ilovethebomb sh.itjust.works Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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#20 · Quote Reply

I mean tbf..... 4x the payload is kinda the most important stat for a tank destroyer. Also I'd be willing to bet the single 30mm chain gun would outperform 4 20mm guns.

Taking shitposts seriously is the key to success.

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TranscendentalEmpire lemmy.today TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
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#21 · Quote Reply

Its OK that you don't know how to do math, but let me make it clear for you: 4x20 = 80 1x30 = 30 Its pretty obvious which is better here.

Well, it's clear we have a disagreement needing real world experimentation.

You get in your tank and I'll shoot you with a 30mm chain gun for 3 seconds. Then I'll get in my tank and let you shoot me with your 4 20mm machine guns for 3 seconds.

Easy.

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teft piefed.social teft@piefed.social
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#22 · Quote Reply

Having a GAU-8 is an auto win imho.

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Jumi lemmy.world Jumi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#23 · Quote Reply

Having a GAU-8 is an auto win imho.

Low accuracy, low penetration, massive recoil and radioactive fallout?

Yeah, sounds like a massive win to me.

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