I'm on a big Kim Stanley Robinson kick lately (currently reading Aurora) and I haven't heard of this one. Definitely picking that up lol

This was the one I came to mention lol.

You cannot buy the revolution. You cannot make the revolution. You can only be the revolution. It is in your spirit, or it is nowhere.

Also from the introduction/short story The Day Before The Revolution:

My novel The Dispossessed is about a small worldful of people who call themselves Odonians. The name is taken from the founder of their society, Odo, who lived several generations before the time of the novel, and who therefore doesn’t get into the action — except implicitly, in that all the action started with her.

Odonianism is anarchism. Not the bomb-in-the-pocket stuff, which is terrorism, whatever name it tries to dignify itself with; not the social-Darwinist economic “libertarianism” of the far right; but anarchism. as prefigured in early Taoist thought, and expounded by Shelley and Kropotkin, Goldman and Goodman. Anarchism’s principal target is the authoritarian State (capitalist or socialist); its principal moral-practical theme is cooperation (solidarity, mutual aid). It is the most idealistic, and to me the most interesting, of all political theories.

Can't believe this is the only mention of Conquest of Bread and Capital here. They are what turned my intuition of "the we've structured society seems unfair" into at least some basic understanding of the reality around me.

Although I think for most people (myself included) radicalization mostly comes from lived experiences rather than anything you read.

Because it is the correct use of the word. It is the american conservative propaganda machine which gave it the negative connotations.

Being antifascist matches at least two definitions of radical: "Favoring fundamental change, or change at the root cause of a matter" and "(slang) Excellent; awesome"

Three Felonies a Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent

Bullshit Jobs 

Yes! Its a 2018 book by David Graeber

Wiki link above to give a decent synopsis

Island - Aldous Huxley

Less radicalized and more just opened my thinking about how society could be and how imperial forces and people's desires get in the way constantly. More of a 'this is why utopia can't happen' vs Brave New World's 'look at this dystopia'

Lord of the flies

Benjamin’s essay “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction.” Related: he quotes Marinetti’s 1909 “Manifesto of Futurism” which is still frighteningly relevant.

The Bible

the book of none can be found with the real nowhere man. You can find him sitting in his nowhere land.
Generally he is usually making all his nowhere plans for nobody.

I know I at least read Animal Farm and To Kill a Mockingbird when I was younger. I wonder how much those ended up influencing me. At the time I wouldn't have totally agreed with them, and I don't remember them having a particularly large influence, but they probably did affect me without me knowing. However, I also watched a lot of sci-fi and Star Trek, which probably had an even greater influence.

I wish there was a way to analyze our past and pick apart what effect different things had. It'd be really fun to know. I think when you consume something that you think really changes you, you were already primed for that change before. A lot of things lead up to that moment that you don't even recognize.

I know Lord of the Flies is an allegory for the authors experience during and after WW2, but I do think its incredibly ironic the only real life example we have of the book turned out the complete opposite

History books got names too!

You want something strictly relevant to all the messes we're in today?

The Hundred Years' War on Palestine and The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine are must reads. Round them off with Beyond Chutzpah: On the Misuse of Anti-Semitism and the Abuse of History

Then read Inventing Reality: The Politics of News Media and Manufacturing Consent (obligatory fuck pedo-associated and possibly pedo Chompsky).

Take a break from reality and read a quick fiction: The Trial.

If you're not radicalized by anger at this point, you're one of the baddies.

yeah I am not American and we talk in terms of ethnicities, color, and castes. We don't even have a word for race in our language.

Well I grew up in right and far right environment.

For me, it was Quran who made me question the majority and gave me a questioning mind and now I am an atheist.

But why then US fought Germany if US also likes fascism?

The book that reads at the very beginning something like "you must believe everything written in this book with blind fate" made you question things? Or maybe I picked up a tampered copy.. 🤔 I read that, put it back on the shelve and never picked it up again.

Yeah I know. But I don't like to recommend just random topics, because when I do, I've noticed that people just go "oh wasn't interested in that" so I'd rather ask a bit about what topics and time periods people might be interested in, before recommending.

And to be clear, I don't really have a specific book or books in mind that radicalized me. It happened by reading tens, or a hundred, books in the period of 10-15 years. So in that I can't give a recommendation, other than, just start reading about stuff. Start with something you wanted to know, wanted to know more about or were interested in, then during reading that thing, note down anything else that comes to mind that might interest you. Either something the book mentioned or something that popped in your mind randomly. Then get a book about that thing. Repeat.

That's how I got sunk into this hole of reading about history. I just go "huh, what's that about?!" and proceed to find out. /r/askhistorians subreddit has a excellent reading list in their wiki, its sorted into periods and topics, easy to search. That's a good place to start.

Tail recursion is just recursion? I mean who cares if it's the last thing done or not 😋 ?

Check out template meta programming if you want some recursion to blow your mind (like the variadic template).

Didn't really radicalise me but it's interesting that people had those ideas a long time ago too.

"The right to be lazy" (translation by me so it's worth what it's worth)

Read 1984 and you'll understand. Or any history of a region just after WWII with insane leaders.

It's not just a question of fascism or no fascism. It's that fascist leaders only want their fascism out there. Neighboring fascist counties usually hate each other because of the competition.

Came here to make sure this was listed.

For me, i was raised religious. Fully believed it all because I was a child and the idea that its all a con was way beyond my capabilities. Got a little older, family fell apart and religion stopped being shoved down my throat.

Decided to read the bible so I could understand the whole story instead of just being lectured about a couple of paragraphs plucked at random.

God creates everything and then straight up fireballs everyone to death in the first like 5 minutes of reading. Ive been taught since birth that God loves us. Been drilled into my head that God has a perfect plan. Chapter fucking one God says whoops and does a genocide.

I did not finish the book.

Also we can spot evil in others. Its dangerous for us to recognise it and then realise its us too.

Stolen Continents

yeah cuz I wanted to be a better Muslim and I dove deeper and deeper and that made me question my sect, then my religion, then all religions.

The irony being that Musk doesn't seem to grok the meaning of the word grok.

Little Brother 2008

and it's free

https://craphound.com/category/littlebrother/

If you really want some solid Graeber, who tag-teamed with archaeologist David Wengrow, read The Dawn of Everything.

The cake is a lie and hierarchy is horseshit. Humans have left exploitative social structures (read: empires, Capitalism) and reorganized society before and we can do it again. There is physical evidence for thousands of years.

Ishmael by Daniel Quinn

Rich Dad Poor Dad (no joke). It's a glimpse into the inner workings of a wealthy shithead's mind. It unironically tries to convince you that profit is the only thing that matters, people are disposable and those who disagree with these ideas are intellectually inferior. The "poor dad" in the book is a teacher (and the guy's biological dad) who's pictured as someone well-educated, who tries to live an honest and modest life, and is therefore a "loser". It's nauseating.

The dude is a total hack too. There was an If Book Could Kill episode on it that was fantastic.

Every time I see the nice leather bound Barnes and Noble edition with all the other leather bounds I say “I love to see all the works of fiction together in the same section”

Never fails to get a laugh.

Reform or revolution -Rosa Luxembourg
(Not a book per se but worth the read)

Black shirts and reds -Micheal Parenti

The conquest of bread -Peter Kropotkin

Mutual aid -Peter Kropotkin

The Black Panther Party ten point program - Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale

Guerrilla Warfare -Ernesto "Che" Guevera

I forget the name (maybe "the verdict"?) but I read a john grisham book about a fictional trial of a chemical company contaminating drinking water. It dealt in a lot of detail with real-world political and legal structures and how open to abuse they are by the super-rich. It really eroded any belief I had that billionaires can exist peacefully in society without making things worse for everyone.

Have you heard about the communist party manifesto? really simple book, 30 pages, you can skip the third chapter, but a real banger I couldn't recommend more

Quel banger

I loved this book!

Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent by Eduardo Galeano

the rise of fascism radicalized me and made me sought out the books to learn about it and solutions by the communists of yesteryear.

not the other way around.

this is the perfect book to understand what's about to happen to latin america again.

🥱 parfaitement !

Unironically "Industrial Society and Its Future" by Ted Kaczynski.

I don't agree with it at all. I think disabled people are people too, radical stance I know. But some points, especially about modern left and new technology becoming mandatory are well argued and true.

I always thought he was just a random looney and he's definitely not. I think the book didn't radicalize me but showed me what I believed to be true (that the guy was just a looney or evil) was wrong.

I don't believe that the rise of technofascism can be stopped by hiding in the woods tho and I don't think rejecting all tech will make everyone's mental health immediately better, he does not at all take things like community and purpose into account.

The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Ilan Pappe.

The methodical whitewashing by Zionists of the crimes against the native inhabitants of Palestine combined with the crocodiles tears of liberal Zionists was eye opening to say the least.

Gonna put something completely different out there: The Kingsbridge novels and Century Trilogy by Ken Follett. Kingsbridge is about a fictional town in England through the ages (books are 10th, 12, 14th, 16th and 18th century respectively), and the Century trilogy about several families from different parts of the world as they go through the 20th century.

Just a lot of daily life scenarios with a lot of rich vs poor themes. A lot of it goes too far to the social-democratic side and I don't like how a lot of the characters tend to end up in a better place than where they started but I think it's exactly those day-to-day issues that are what radicalise.

And while Jeremy is writing it, he's also reviewing it.

That was the first Heinlein I ever read, and it blew my mind. I wished I could go back in time to meet him and shake his hand.

Then I read more Heinlein and got to the Lazarus Long stuff, and wished I could go back in time to meet him and ask him if he was okay.