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velma
sh.itjust.works
velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Over the next 24 hours, Kowalski sat paralyzed on her couch as anonymous people on the internet endlessly harassed her; they posted her old photos, her dad’s LinkedIn, and even his golf handicap. They called and texted her parents all through the night, saying things like, “I gave your daughter drugs and fucked her”; one anonymous man told Kowalski’s father he’d had sex with her and had since tested positive for HIV while playing the call live on Spaces, X’s live chat feature. Another posted on X placing bets on whether, by the end of the coming week, she’d start an OnlyFans or kill herself. Kowalski called her best friend, Lexie Blake, who was then a sophomore at the University of Mississippi. She “wasn’t even really saying words,” Blake recounts. “She was just sobbing, hysterical.” When Kowalski’s father showed up at her apartment, she was too humiliated to face him. She tried to jump out of her fifth-floor window. By Monday afternoon, #Maddiekowalski was trending on X nationwide, with more than 1,200 posts using the hashtag. Content about her—much of it showing her incapacitated, naked, and engaging in sex acts—had been viewed more than 8.5 million times. Kowalski had heard about this happening to other college girls before; one of them, a University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) student named Mary Kate Cornett, had been doxed in the same way nine months prior. These campaigns were the work of the burnerverse (or “beev,” or “BV”), a loosely connected network of anonymous “burner” accounts on X, mostly operated by students and alumni, with the primary purpose of discussing college sports. But Kowalski was learning in real time that, outside of talking shit about athletes and posting photos of crushed red Solo cups, this faceless corner of the internet has another mission: destroying the lives of young women. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Sickening. |
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usernameunnecessary
lemmy.zip
usernameunnecessary@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-04-04 |
Appaling. And of course, the cesspool that is X would be the enabler of all this. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Nothing new under the sun, as they say. Frats and jocks being assholes to everybody, getting away with it. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Nothing new under the sun, as they say. Frats and jocks being assholes to everybody, getting away with it.
The coordinated anonymous online harassment campaign specifically targeting young women is rather new. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
The coordinated anonymous online harassment campaign specifically targeting young women is rather new.
Online is new. But that’s it. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Online is new. But that’s it.
Online is a powerful tool for these types of predators to help spread these types of harassment. Why are you downplaying this? |
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blargh513
sh.itjust.works
blargh513@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-07 |
Online is new. But that’s it.
You're kidding right? This has been a thing for more than a decade! What burns my ass is that every thing we do online is monitored and tracked at such a granular level, retailers can build a hyper-accurate profile of you off of your digital exhaust. The NSA collects ALL traffic and dumps it into a hole in their giant data centers. The police can just skip the warrant and buy your browsing data from data brokers. So they all know what type of porn you like, what sites you view, what you buy, where you go, when you do it and a million other things--but they can't find a few knuckle dragging cunts who harass strangers? What the FUCK is the point of all the surveillance?! Oh, that's right, it's not about solving crime or helping people, it's about preserving the current fucked-up power dynamic. Remember this shit the next time you go past a fucking Flock camera. The data will always be used against you, but never to help you. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Online is a powerful tool for these types of predators to help spread these types of harassment. Why are you downplaying this?
Not downplaying anything - I’m saying frats are, and have been, an accepted scourge on college campuses forever, and where fratboys and jocks congregate there will be oppression and/or violence against women at least. Usually racism too, but that’s slightly more variable. Yes, as with everything else social media has made it unfathomably worse, but this isn’t unexpected. Just because they’ve found a novel and more efficient way to be shitheads to everyone doesn’t mean they weren’t before Xitter. They most assuredly were. One can’t be surprised about this any more than one can be surprised that a baby shot themselves after finding a gun. It happens more now, and we hear about it more now, but it was an inevitable result. Should something be done? Well - yeah. Something should have been done fifty years - 100 years ago. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
You're kidding right? This has been a thing for more than a decade! What burns my ass is that every thing we do online is monitored and tracked at such a granular level, retailers can build a hyper-accurate profile of you off of your digital exhaust. The NSA collects ALL traffic and dumps it into a hole in their giant data centers. The police can just skip the warrant and buy your browsing data...
Edit: Replied to the wrong comment, sorry! |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Not downplaying anything - I’m saying frats are, and have been, an accepted scourge on college campuses forever, and where fratboys and jocks congregate there will be oppression and/or violence against women at least. Usually racism too, but that’s slightly more variable. Yes, as with everything else social media has made it unfathomably worse, but this isn’t unexpected. Just because they’ve fo...
Why is it inevitable that young women will be harassed and terrorized by men? Why can't we say something about this? Why can't we work to stop this? |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
You're kidding right? This has been a thing for more than a decade! What burns my ass is that every thing we do online is monitored and tracked at such a granular level, retailers can build a hyper-accurate profile of you off of your digital exhaust. The NSA collects ALL traffic and dumps it into a hole in their giant data centers. The police can just skip the warrant and buy your browsing data...
Yeah “new” meaning in the history of assholes on campus. Relatively. And of course data could be collected and used to punish the perpetrators and prevent future abuses - as it always could have been. “Good ol’ boys” is also not new. It’s as old as time. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Yeah “new” meaning in the history of assholes on campus. Relatively. And of course data could be collected and used to punish the perpetrators and prevent future abuses - as it always could have been. “Good ol’ boys” is also not new. It’s as old as time.
Just because it's not new doesn't mean we shouldn't keep talking about it. We should be bringing attention to this, putting pressure on those in charge to hold these predators accountable. |
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LadyMeow
lemmy.blahaj.zone
LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-01-18 |
That’s a weird way to write ‘getting raped’ This is fucking gross. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
but it was an inevitable result Why is it inevitable that young women will be harassed and terrorized by men? Why can't we say something about this? Why can't we work to stop this?
Why? Because parents do the best they can and many are not very good. Because many social institutions tend to treat young men as a powerful force to be wielded, and that’s about it. Because football, trucks, meat, and alcohol define so many places. Because we have nothing transcendental to believe in together as a society. We can and are doing something about this but the root of this story is exactly what I first said. Nothing new under the sun. Where did all these ICE assholes come from? A Venn diagram would overlap considerably with frats and jocks, i’m sure. Patriarchy is a bitch. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Just because it's not new doesn't mean we shouldn't keep talking about it. We should be bringing attention to this, putting pressure on those in charge to hold these predators accountable.
Absolutely. |
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remon
ani.social
remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
much of it showing her incapacitated, naked, and engaging in sex acts That’s a weird way to write ‘getting raped’ This is fucking gross.
Not sure if typo or weird form of censorship. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Why? Because parents do the best they can and many are not very good. Because many social institutions tend to treat young men as a powerful force to be wielded, and that’s about it. Because football, trucks, meat, and alcohol define so many places. Because we have nothing transcendental to believe in together as a society. We can and are doing something about this but the root of this story is...
What do you think it does to shrug your shoulders and say "it's always been like this"? |
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oatscoop
midwest.social
oatscoop@midwest.socialJoined: 2023-06-30 |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
‘getting taped’ Not sure if typo or weird form of censorship.
Videotaped. |
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remon
ani.social
remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
Videotaped.
Oh ... didn't even think of that meaning. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
What do you think it does to shrug your shoulders and say "it's always been like this"?
Whose shrugging? I’m agreeing! THIS IS A VERY GOOD ARTICLE AND AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR EVERYONE. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Whose shrugging? I’m agreeing! THIS IS A VERY GOOD ARTICLE AND AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR EVERYONE.
Your first comment set a tone of dismissiveness. That's why the reaction. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Nothing new under the sun, as they say. Frats and jocks being assholes to everybody, getting away with it. Your first comment set a tone of dismissiveness. That's why the reaction.
It’s dismissive that anyone expecting more from frats or the manosphere should seriously adjust that expectation. Whatever percieved good they may do does not support maintaining them. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
It’s dismissive that anyone expecting more from frats or the manosphere should seriously adjust that expectation. Whatever percieved good they may do does not support maintaining them.
We can expect men to do better. |
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lemmy.world
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
anyone expecting more from frats or the manosphere should seriously adjust that expectation. We can expect men to do better.
And have been. For a very long time. |
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you_are_dust
lemmy.world
you_are_dust@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-04 |
I have an honest question here. What can be done about this? Maybe I'm being idealistic here, but there are lots of groups out there that that catch scammers, predators, etc. People that target victims in this way are a similar level of garbage. Is this considered to be revenge porn or something similar? The calling and harassing is a crime, but it will probably never have a resolution. |
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demonmariner
sh.itjust.works
demonmariner@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-24 |
I have an honest question here. What can be done about this? Maybe I'm being idealistic here, but there are lots of groups out there that that catch scammers, predators, etc. People that target victims in this way are a similar level of garbage. Is this considered to be revenge porn or something similar? The calling and harassing is a crime, but it will probably never have a resolution.
Penalize the social media platforms that enable the behavior. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
I have an honest question here. What can be done about this? Maybe I'm being idealistic here, but there are lots of groups out there that that catch scammers, predators, etc. People that target victims in this way are a similar level of garbage. Is this considered to be revenge porn or something similar? The calling and harassing is a crime, but it will probably never have a resolution.
X allowed the same account to repost the video. This user was allowed to profit from the videos.
"Mostly operated by students and alumni" We could start holding those people accountable.
TheSportsGrail and Barstool Sports could stop amplifying these harassment campaigns.
The colleges could stop building symbiotic relationships with these communities.
We could stop pushing new members to participate in these harassment communities.
The police could take these crimes seriously.
We can and should prosecute these predators. It's possible. We need to hold everyone here accountable for assuming that these young women aren't worth protecting. |
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LordMayor
piefed.social
LordMayor@piefed.social Joined: 2025-10-20 |
I have an honest question here. What can be done about this? Maybe I'm being idealistic here, but there are lots of groups out there that that catch scammers, predators, etc. People that target victims in this way are a similar level of garbage. Is this considered to be revenge porn or something similar? The calling and harassing is a crime, but it will probably never have a resolution.
A full criminal investigation. There’s gotta be at least one of those accounts that’s traceable. Get one and turn the screws to get more. |
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CascadiaRo
lemmy.zip
CascadiaRo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-20 |
Videotaped.
Weird way of writing ‘raped’ |
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Not_mikey
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-01-30 |
Appaling. And of course, the cesspool that is X would be the enabler of all this.
Combine it with the even worse cesspool of southern frats and you get one of the most toxic corner of the internet imaginable. |
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Not_mikey
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-01-30 |
I have an honest question here. What can be done about this? Maybe I'm being idealistic here, but there are lots of groups out there that that catch scammers, predators, etc. People that target victims in this way are a similar level of garbage. Is this considered to be revenge porn or something similar? The calling and harassing is a crime, but it will probably never have a resolution.
According to her she did not know the original poster
Looks like they are pressing charges which is good
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Not_mikey
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-01-30 |
Can we just ban all fraternities in the south, nothing of value will be lost. |
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Redditmodstouchgrass
lemmy.zip
Redditmodstouchgrass@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-18 |
Whose shrugging? I’m agreeing! THIS IS A VERY GOOD ARTICLE AND AN IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR EVERYONE.
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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You again :) |
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arak
lemmy.today
arak@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-09 |
‘getting taped’ Not sure if typo or weird form of censorship.
This is why censorship is bad. |
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ani.social
remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
Videotaped.
Seems the OC edited their comment and it was indeed rape. I mean incapacitated + engaging in sex acts ... that's rape. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
This is why censorship is bad.
I’m not sure it’s censorship so much as it’s an old-fashioned way of referring to recording video. |
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ReluctantlyZen
ani.social
ReluctantlyZen@ani.social Joined: 2026-01-28 |
Can we just ban all fraternities in the south, nothing of value will be lost.
Frats in general tbh. I'm not from the US so I can't speak to that, but in my country they suck everywhere. There's always this cult vibe to them and they're rife with sexism and elitism. They tend to get away with shit too because they often have rich parents |
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lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
Nothing new under the sun, as they say. Frats and jocks being assholes to everybody, getting away with it.
Because they all fail upwards and end up running the world. It's a cycle |
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arak
lemmy.today
arak@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-09 |
I’m not sure it’s censorship so much as it’s an old-fashioned way of referring to recording video.
Ah thank you for correcting the article, she did not get raped just filmed on video tape |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
Ah thank you for correcting the article, she did not get raped just filmed on video tape
I'm not claiming she wasn't raped. |
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JoeBigelow
lemmy.ca
JoeBigelow@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-06 |
Seems the OC edited their comment and it was indeed rape. I mean incapacitated + engaging in sex acts ... that's rape.
Those may be exclusive commas not inclusive. It all sucks regardless, but it may be videos of her unclothed, others of her intoxicated, and still more of her willingly having sex and being taped. Who knows, it doesn't change much overall about how awful this is. Edit: Maddie Kowalski was a 19-year-old University of Florida student when an intimate video that she alleges was recorded and distributed without her consent exploded across social media, turning her private life into a target for thousands of strangers. Video doesn't seem to have been taken with her consent, just keeps getting worse |
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lemmy.zip
Malica@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-27 |
4B |
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Zannsolo
lemmy.world
Zannsolo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-17 |
I was really hoping got to work was in the "Don't fuck with cats" way not let's make the worst moment in this girl's life worse way. |
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Phoenixz
lemmy.ca
phoenixz@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-10 |
4B
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Saledovil
sh.itjust.works
Saledovil@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-10 |
What had been a piece of salacious on-campus gossip, transmitted via anonymous social media and group texts, was now a national story. X removed the post containing the video, but late the following day, @SteveCumfull posted it again. Then they posted a screenshot of a cryptocurrency token they’d bought with Kowalski’s name on it, with a market cap of $11,400. “Put your children’s college savin...
Sounds like Elon Musk's platform is the most culpable party here, since they enabled, multiplied and monetized the suffering caused. Algorithmic social media should probably be banned. Even this platform's upvote/downvote based algorithm is borderline. Posts should just be shown in chronological order. |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
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The 4B movement is a feminist movement originating in South Korea that encourages women to reject heterosexual marriage, childbirth, dating, and sex with men |
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velma
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velma@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2026-05-07 |
X allowed the same account to repost the video. This user was allowed to profit from the videos. Sounds like Elon Musk's platform is the most culpable party here, since they enabled, multiplied and monetized the suffering caused. Algorithmic social media should probably be banned. Even this platform's upvote/downvote based algorithm is borderline. Posts should just be shown in chronological order.
Let’s not give the university a pass here. They’re very much involved in fostering this type of crime and they did nothing to protect these women either. |
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