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FreshParsnip
lemmy.ca
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-02 |
You don't say the Canada, the Ireland, the Iraq, the Japan, etc... |
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actionjbone
sh.itjust.works
actionjbone@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-09-12 |
Well we do say The Gambia, The United States, The Republic of Korea... |
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AXH
lemmy.zip
AXH@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-06-03 |
The United States of America, I'm sure there are others |
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sh.itjust.works
brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-04-08 |
In German we use the article only for feminine countries. Yes, everything has a gender in German, even countries. We say "Die Ukraine", but just "England" and not "Das England". But English has lost its grammatical genders some 800 years ago, I guess that's too long ago for being the reason. |
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SamuraiBeandog
lemmy.world
SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
When it was a part of the USSR it was mainly called "The Ukraine". Since independence, dropping "the" is preferred. But older people will have heard it called "The Ukraine" most of their lives. |
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Lung
lemmy.world
lung@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-21 |
It means like "the edge" - which is what it was - like "the borderlands". But plenty of places have the in the title optionally |
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SamuraiBeandog
lemmy.world
SamuraiBeandog@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
The United States of America, The Soviet Union, The Maldives, I'm sure there are others
"The" in those names is referring to the structure of the state, rather than the name; "The United States", "The Union" (Maldives is actually "The Republic of the Maldives"). From wikipedia:
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southsamurai (he/him/pronoun agnostic)
Moderator
southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-19 |
It's a fair peeve, since it calls back to Soviet era bullshit. But it's gonna take a few more decades before it dies out now that Ukraine is the forefront of resistance, and is likely to be. I think it would have been over and done soon were it not for that. Only older gen-x and older were really using "the Ukraine" on a regular basis that I could tell. Us gen-xers were phasing it out overall just because it's one less word to type. But with the news being crammed full of both naming versions, it's gonna drag it out |
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