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fne8w2ah lemmy.world fne8w2ah@lemmy.world
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Lemmywinks lemmy.world icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world
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This is a very badly written headline/article.

Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages from two entirely different language families. Gaelic is a celtic language, closely related to Irish, while Scots is a germanic language, closely related to English.

While it is true that Gaelic is sometimes referred to as 'Scots/Scottish Gaelic' (to differentiate it from the Irish word for the Irish language), calling it 'Gaelic and Scots' is 100% incorrect.

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jobbies lemmy.zip jobbies@lemmy.zip
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This is a very badly written headline/article. Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages from two entirely different language families. Gaelic is a celtic language, closely related to Irish, while Scots is a germanic language, closely related to English. While it is true that Gaelic is sometimes referred to as 'Scots/Scottish Gaelic' (to differentiate it from the Irish word for the ...

Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages

Yes but Gaelic is also a Scots language. And sometimes Canadian.

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sik0fewl piefed.ca sik0fewl@piefed.ca
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This is a very badly written headline/article. Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages from two entirely different language families. Gaelic is a celtic language, closely related to Irish, while Scots is a germanic language, closely related to English. While it is true that Gaelic is sometimes referred to as 'Scots/Scottish Gaelic' (to differentiate it from the Irish word for the ...

To be fair, the article doesn’t even mention Scots, except in the intro paragraph that is really just an expanded headline.

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FinjaminPoach lemmy.world FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world
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This is a very badly written headline/article. Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages from two entirely different language families. Gaelic is a celtic language, closely related to Irish, while Scots is a germanic language, closely related to English. While it is true that Gaelic is sometimes referred to as 'Scots/Scottish Gaelic' (to differentiate it from the Irish word for the ...
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Lemmywinks lemmy.world icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world
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No, it should say 'in the Gaelic language', the Scots language isn't involved in the story

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Lemmywinks lemmy.world icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world
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Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages Yes but Gaelic is also a Scots language. And sometimes Canadian.

It's a Scottish language, but not a Scots language, and the words are not interchangeable. The Scots lived in the lowlands and spoke Scots unlike the Highlanders who lived in the highlands (and western isles) and spoke Gaelic, the modern Scottish identity is a fusion of these two quite different cultures.

Source: have lived in Scotland for over 3 decades

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jdr lemmy.ml jdr@lemmy.ml
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This is a very badly written headline/article. Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages from two entirely different language families. Gaelic is a celtic language, closely related to Irish, while Scots is a germanic language, closely related to English. While it is true that Gaelic is sometimes referred to as 'Scots/Scottish Gaelic' (to differentiate it from the Irish word for the ...

Don't forget Manx, they're Gaels too

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jobbies lemmy.zip jobbies@lemmy.zip
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It's a Scottish language, but not a Scots language, and the words are not interchangeable. The Scots lived in the lowlands and spoke Scots unlike the Highlanders who lived in the highlands (and western isles) and spoke Gaelic, the modern Scottish identity is a fusion of these two quite different cultures. Source: have lived in Scotland for over 3 decades

the words are not interchangeable.

Ehh yes they are.

'Scots' (the people) is a contraction of 'Scottish'.

Nobodies cutting about going 'Scots law doesnt apply in the highlands'.

Source: born in Scotland and thus lived here 40± years. Ya jumped up wee prick.

Source 2: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/scots

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Lemmywinks lemmy.world icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world
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the words are not interchangeable. Ehh yes they are. 'Scots' (the people) is a contraction of 'Scottish'. Nobodies cutting about going 'Scots law doesnt apply in the highlands'. Source: born in Scotland and thus lived here 40± years. Ya jumped up wee prick. Source 2: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/scots

From 1500 on, Scotland was commonly divided by language into two groups of people, Gaelic-speaking "Highlanders" (the language formerly called Scottis by English speakers and known by many Lowlanders in the 18th century as "Erse") and the Inglis-speaking "Lowlanders" (a language later to be called Scots). However, movement between the two regions increased over the last few centuries. Highlanders moved to major cities (e.g. Glasgow and Edinburgh) and regions bordering the southern Highlands (e.g. Lowland Stirlingshire and Perthshire). This is evidenced by people with traditional Gaelic surnames (including anglicised varieties) currently living in these areas. Lowlanders also settled in Highland regions such as Moray, which was traditionally Gaelic-speaking but replaced with Doric in the 19th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people

Most commonly spoken in the Scottish Lowlands, the Northern Isles of Scotland, and northern Ulster in Ireland (where the local dialect is known as Ulster Scots), it is sometimes called Lowland Scots, to distinguish it from Scottish Gaelic, the Celtic language that was historically restricted to most of the Scottish Highlands, the Hebrides, and Galloway after the sixteenth century;[13] or Broad Scots, to distinguish it from Scottish Standard English. Many Scottish people's speech exists on a dialect continuum ranging between Broad Scots and Standard English.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language

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quickenparalysespunk lemmy.dbzer0.com quickenparalysespunk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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the words are not interchangeable. Ehh yes they are. 'Scots' (the people) is a contraction of 'Scottish'. Nobodies cutting about going 'Scots law doesnt apply in the highlands'. Source: born in Scotland and thus lived here 40± years. Ya jumped up wee prick. Source 2: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/scots

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jobbies lemmy.zip jobbies@lemmy.zip
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From 1500 on, Scotland was commonly divided by language into two groups of people, Gaelic-speaking "Highlanders" (the language formerly called Scottis by English speakers and known by many Lowlanders in the 18th century as "Erse") and the Inglis-speaking "Lowlanders" (a language later to be called Scots). However, movement between the two regions increased over the last few centuries. Highlande...

I wasn't disputing your wee history lesson. In modern parlance 'Scots' is often substituted for 'Scottish'.

Seeing as you're not in agreement you're either deafblind, not Scots or a clanker.

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Lemmywinks lemmy.world icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world
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I wasn't disputing your wee history lesson. In modern parlance 'Scots' is often substituted for 'Scottish'. Seeing as you're not in agreement you're either deafblind, not Scots or a clanker.

I've been here since I was 9, so not technically Scottish, no. I get that Scots is an abbreviation of Scottish, but in this context it clearly refers to the language/culture of the same name. I assumed you were a Canadian or American, which is why I gave the history lesson.

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jobbies lemmy.zip jobbies@lemmy.zip
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I've been here since I was 9, so not technically Scottish, no. I get that Scots is an abbreviation of Scottish, but in this context it clearly refers to the language/culture of the same name. I assumed you were a Canadian or American, which is why I gave the history lesson.

in this context

In what context? You pulled me up for saying 'Gaelic is a Scots language' when calling it 'Scots Gaelic' is valid and distinguishes it from Irish.

And FYI its as Canadian as it is Scots so leave them be.

which is why I gave the history lesson

Yeah well nobody likes a smart arse.

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frongt lemmy.zip frongt@lemmy.zip
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#15 · (edited) Quote Reply

This is a very badly written headline/article. Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages from two entirely different language families. Gaelic is a celtic language, closely related to Irish, while Scots is a germanic language, closely related to English. While it is true that Gaelic is sometimes referred to as 'Scots/Scottish Gaelic' (to differentiate it from the Irish word for the ...

I read "language" as referring to each individually. "Languages" would have been better, yes, or replacing the "and" with a comma.

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Goldholz lemmy.blahaj.zone Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Don't forget Manx, they're Gaels too

And bretton!

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jdr lemmy.ml jdr@lemmy.ml
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And bretton!

They're Celts too but p-Celts (like Welsh and Cornish) rather than q-Celts/Gaels (Irish, Scottish, Manx)

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Goldholz lemmy.blahaj.zone Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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They're Celts too but p-Celts (like Welsh and Cornish) rather than q-Celts/Gaels (Irish, Scottish, Manx)

Ah yeah sorry read "celtics" instead of gaels

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Lemmywinks lemmy.world icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world
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I read "language" as referring to each individually. "Languages" would have been better, yes, or replacing the "and" with a comma.

But the Scots langauge isn't involved in the story in any way, so it should just say 'Gaelic language'.

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