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shortwavesurfer lemmy.zip shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-01-08
#52 · Quote Reply

Shit like this is why I run lineage OS and there's a very good chance that my next phone is going to be running post-market OS and not Android at all.

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Psythik lemmy.world Psythik@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-12-21
#53 · Quote Reply

GrapheneOS comes with no play services out of the box.

Yes but they didn't say they installed GrapheneOS on their tablet, just their phone.

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Arghblarg lemmy.ca Arghblarg@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-10
#54 · Quote Reply

I was wondering when this would come. Even popped open DuckDuckGo and searched for Android news, yet this completely escaped the radar. I've already removed the verifier and safetycore apps and installed stubs in their place. I also already had Shizuko and now I have gained root access on top of it without unlocking the bootloader. Google may fuck themselves.

Is this a good solution doing what you describe? I might need to try it on my wife's Pixel 9 w/stock OS.

https://github.com/slopgirl/android-safety-stubs

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Squirrelanna lemmy.blahaj.zone Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-09
#55 · Quote Reply

GrapheneOS CAN have play services, which get sandbox. By default though, no play services.

Thank you for clarifying!

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#56 · Quote Reply

It was something like 70% of all malware originates from the google play store. Yet to make you safe you can't download apps outside of google play. Lol.

It's not to make you safe. It is to Co troll what you download. As a side effect, you also are restricted to install cracked apps e.g. Revanced apps.

Nobody cared about viruses and nobody will. They just state so for normies to believe and agree.

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FoxAlive lemmy.zip FoxAlive@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-06-29
#57 · Quote Reply

It's not to make you safe. It is to Co troll what you download. As a side effect, you also are restricted to install cracked apps e.g. Revanced apps. Nobody cared about viruses and nobody will. They just state so for normies to believe and agree.

Oh trust me buddy I know.

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-30
#58 · Quote Reply

How is this legal? Serious question, how can it be legal for a company to dictate what I install on my own computing devices? Dobtngive me the security crap, that is just a cheap excuse

Probably the same ways cars are mobile computers with no access for the owner.

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Aneb lemmy.world Aneb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-28
#59 · Quote Reply

Google installs the module silently in the background automatically if you have Play Services, it is not related to your OS version. It can be removed with adb, or in some cases disabled

I use aurora store but also fdroid, and I sometimes download for github I haven't stopped auto updates for GrapheneOS tho

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massacre lemmy.world massacre@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#60 · Quote Reply

I was wondering when this would come. Even popped open DuckDuckGo and searched for Android news, yet this completely escaped the radar. I've already removed the verifier and safetycore apps and installed stubs in their place. I also already had Shizuko and now I have gained root access on top of it without unlocking the bootloader. Google may fuck themselves.

If you are going this far why not Graphene or CalyxOS? Genuine interest...

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cybernihongo reddthat.com cybernihongo@reddthat.com
Joined: 2026-01-12
#61 · Quote Reply

If you are going this far why not Graphene or CalyxOS? Genuine interest...

Because I have access to neither on my Xiaomi phone. I do have access to other custom ROMs though but unlocking the bootloader will wipe my data. As soon as I'm ready, I'm considering LineageOS or any of the other available ROMs.

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RunawayFixer lemmy.world RunawayFixer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-02
#62 · Quote Reply

Google would rather block potential competition than attempt to fix their own product.

  • The Playstore is inundated with fake reviews and paid for discoveribility, pushing awful predatory apps to the top.
  • Many (I assume, it was several from my small collection) niche clean apps left the play store after increased requirements proved not worth the hassle for the small Devs.
  • Lots of people report issues with Google Play cards.
  • Lots of people report being billed for things that they did not consent to.
  • Google Play support appears to be useless.
  • https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.gplaynews.com

So the Playstore sucks and it burns too many of their potential customers, resulting in churn instead of retention. Consequently it has seen very little growth since Covid: https://www.businessofapps.com/data/google-play-statistics/ . The potential for growth was there though, as can be seen with the apple app store: https://www.businessofapps.com/data/apple-app-store-statistics/

And as a cherry on top, Google has recently started billing cc chargeback fees to developers. I don't know a single other large digital shop platform that does this. More costs and more administration for Devs, which will make the Playstore even less attractive for hobby Devs with a niche passion project.

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cybernihongo reddthat.com cybernihongo@reddthat.com
Joined: 2026-01-12
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is this a good solution doing what you describe? I might need to try it on my wife's Pixel 9 w/stock OS. https://github.com/slopgirl/android-safety-stubs

I have not used this particular repo but from what I read, it does what it should be doing, replace the real hidden apps with placeholder stubs that have version 2000000 or something to that effect. You should be good with this one. Make sure to read all of the readme carefully, particularly the uninstall methods.

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Cris_Citrus (he/him <3) piefed.zip Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-02-26
#64 · Quote Reply

Thank you Cris! Here’s to 2 years! Have a slice of the cake!

Ooooh cake ☺️☺️

Have a wonderful day/night! ❤️

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Hanrahan slrpnk.net hanrahan@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-03-14
#65 · Quote Reply

Android is becoming garbage.

indeed , it's becoming Apple.

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gandalf_der_13te feddit.org gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-08-01
#66 · Quote Reply

Google has declared that they intend to stop making a useful mobile operating system.

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gandalf_der_13te feddit.org gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-08-01
#67 · Quote Reply

It definitely has gotten worse with every update for awhile. They keep taking things that made Android great away. We need an alternative. Linux to the rescue I dare say.

I think a de-googled android would be good. Android at its core (Android Open Source Project) is actually a good project from a user-experience point of view. the app navigation and all that makes a whole lot of sense. We'd lose that if we switch to pure linux.

just google has to be entirely removed from the operating system.

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