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KittensAreKittens lemmy.today KittensAreKittens@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-03-21
#52 · Quote Reply

It was on an 08/ish laptop I wanted to just use for simple dvd watching and such. Had a lot of sound and disc issues. I'm a noob tho so went back to mint.

Yea I wouldn't choose a musl/BusyBox distro for my daily driver.

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slacktoid lemmy.ml slacktoid@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-08-18
#53 · Quote Reply

UEFI doesn't forbid you from implementing additional file systems, it just requires everyone to support UEFI-FAT. iBoot for example supports booting from HFS volumes.

And who has that implementation?

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-24
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah Tumbleweed supports a lot of things. Whenever people have complained about Linux not doing something, I'm like "Uh, OpenSUSE does" Since I'm updating the Kernel and nVidia driver modules, the system is making its own keypair, so I guess its not a check against a known supplied key but a machine specific key pair. Enrolling the key stores it to check against the kernel on boot. I suppose it...

Right? OpenSUSE stopped my distrohopping way before I thought I would. I love it.

Ahhh thank you, that makes a lot more sense! I don't feel too at-risk on my desktop, but if I ever find myself having to take a laptop to like, DEF-CON, then sounds like it'd be pretty essential, along with full-disk-encryption, AppArmor/SElinux, and all those other "wildly inconvenient but more secure" protocols set up.😂
(Lmao that would be terrifying.)

I might try to re-enable it just for the experience. After all, never know when some insane automated malware will hit the 'net that somehow exploits boot like that, and freaks out everyone who said "Nahh that's not possible."

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jj4211 lemmy.world jj4211@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#55 · Quote Reply

My secure boot with hibernate works perfectly fine, or rather it did work fine before hibernate started freezing my system, secure boot or not.

With Linux? Kernel signed with your own key to get out of lockdown mode restrictions?

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libewa feddit.org libewa@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-07-29
#56 · Quote Reply

And who has that implementation?

iBoot is the bootloader on all Apple products.

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Blubber28 lemmy.world Blubber28@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#57 · Quote Reply

It is open, oddly enough. It's just that nobody ships anything other than Microsoft's keys. You can add your own. It's just that it is a tedious, manual process.

Depends on the distro! I could do it in 5 minutes with my bazzite installation: https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/Installation_Guide/secure_boot/

Very happy surprise when setting up my new PC :)

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programmerlexi sh.itjust.works programmerlexi@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-08-29
#58 · Quote Reply

With Linux? Kernel signed with your own key to get out of lockdown mode restrictions?

There are no lockdown mode restrictions on my system.
Kernel is not signed, but i switched to UKIs a couple months ago (hibernation worked fine with these).

It is worth noting that the failure is hibernating, not resuming.
Normally hibernate takes ~1 minute with fans spinning at max speed, but it recently started not finishing and instead being stuck on a black screen for more than 30 minutes without the fans running until i run out of patience (i hibernate before i go to sleep or head out) and force power off the system (power button 10 second press on my system).

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davetortoise reddthat.com davetortoise@reddthat.com
Joined: 2025-10-13
#59 · Quote Reply

Sadly it is actually one of the biggest security features that modern computers have

What kind of attack does it actually protect against?

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slacktoid lemmy.ml slacktoid@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-08-18
#60 · Quote Reply

iBoot is the bootloader on all Apple products.

But who else can use that?

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Alvaro lemmy.blahaj.zone Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-12-24
#61 · Quote Reply

What kind of attack does it actually protect against?

Rootkits

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libewa feddit.org libewa@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-07-29
#62 · Quote Reply

But who else can use that?

You are free to implement any filesystem driver, and either load it in your custom implementation of EFI, or from an EFI image stored on a FAT partition. The EfiFs project provides many drivers under a GPL, including exFAT, Btrfs, ext2-4, NTFS, ISO9660 (cdfs), ZFS and also HFS(+).

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slacktoid lemmy.ml slacktoid@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-08-18
#63 · Quote Reply

You are free to implement any filesystem driver, and either load it in your custom implementation of EFI, or from an EFI image stored on a FAT partition. The EfiFs project provides many drivers under a GPL, including exFAT, Btrfs, ext2-4, NTFS, ISO9660 (cdfs), ZFS and also HFS(+).

Ooh thanks I need to explore this thing!

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IpsumLauren lemmy.world IpsumLauren@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-06
#64 · Quote Reply

It was on an 08/ish laptop I wanted to just use for simple dvd watching and such. Had a lot of sound and disc issues. I'm a noob tho so went back to mint.

Same here, I run Mint everywhere I can, and the XFCE edition works especially well in old machines.

Alpine is better suited for servers and especially containers, because the images can be really small. If you got enough RAM, there's an installation mode that runs on it without writing to disk, pretty cool for systems where you want always to reboot in the same state.

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h4lf8yte lemmy.ml h4lf8yte@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-14
#65 · Quote Reply

What kind of attack does it actually protect against?

Evil maid attacks. Trusted boot is necessary to prevent the modification of unencrypted boot code like bootloader + kernel + initrd. Modified boot code could potentially steal the master key for the root volume while it gets entered. Also rootkits that inject below the os.

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-06-27
#66 · Quote Reply

I dont like secure boot on Linux anyway.

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Billegh lemmy.world bhamlin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#67 · Quote Reply

Depends on the distro! I could do it in 5 minutes with my bazzite installation: https://docs.bazzite.gg/General/Installation_Guide/secure_boot/ Very happy surprise when setting up my new PC :)

Yeah, Ventoy will import its key for you too. If what you're using doesn't come with that utility, you'll be manually entering in public keys. 😭

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