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I getting more and more enraged seeing self proclaimed leftists resorting to ghastly Gen AI to bastardise their rather humorous ideas.
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mechoman444 lemmy.world mechoman444@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#102 · (edited) Quote Reply

Great, another "AI sucks and I'm so much more enlightened because I don't like or use AI" post.

The irony of using the internet on a device to post about the energy consumption of AI while relying on that same general infrastructure and energy consumption to make and distribute the post is... rather fantastic.

If OP really wanted to make a point about reducing AI usage, there is something amusing about using an internet-based service to make that argument.

And the fact that the joke is considered unfunny specifically because it was AI-generated seems like a particularly strange criticism. Whether someone personally likes or dislikes AI is certainly their prerogative, but that doesn't really tell anyone anything about whether the joke itself works. It's a little like saying, "I don't like this joke because of the tool that was used to make it."

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#103 · Quote Reply

Great, another "AI sucks and I'm so much more enlightened because I don't like or use AI" post. The irony of using the internet on a device to post about the energy consumption of AI while relying on that same general infrastructure and energy consumption to make and distribute the post is... rather fantastic. If OP really wanted to make a point about reducing AI usage, there is something amusi...

The irony of using the internet on a device to post about the energy consumption of AI

Oh no. Another "you are critical of capitalism and yet iPhone" post.

the joke is considered unfunny specifically because it was AI-generated

It's unfunny because it's lazy and cheap. The AI only further illustrates how lazy and how cheap.

You could have done this in paint.net inside 20 minutes.

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mechoman444 lemmy.world mechoman444@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#104 · Quote Reply

The irony of using the internet on a device to post about the energy consumption of AI Oh no. Another "you are critical of capitalism and yet iPhone" post. the joke is considered unfunny specifically because it was AI-generated It's unfunny because it's lazy and cheap. The AI only further illustrates how lazy and how cheap. You could have done this in paint.net inside 20 minutes.

I apologize for bringing your logical fallacies to light. I realize pointing them out is intellectually lazy, but unfortunately it seems necessary when they make up the basis of the rebuttal.

You're conflating the effort required to manufacture an image with the effort involved in creating the joke. The context of the joke isn't who manufactured the image; it's who made the joke. The AI didn't independently decide that Netanyahu, Trump, and Ed Sheeran standing on a stage would be funny. A person came up with that concept and used AI as the tool to produce it.

You could have made the same image in Paint.NET in 20 minutes. Great. That doesn't demonstrate that the joke is lazy, and it certainly doesn't demonstrate that it's unfunny. It demonstrates that you prefer a different method of producing the image.

And "lazy" isn't a synonym for "unfunny." If I spend twenty hours painstakingly creating the exact same image in Photoshop, the joke doesn't magically become funnier because I invested more labor into manufacturing the pixels.

If you don't find the joke funny, that's perfectly fine. But that's a subjective reaction, not an argument. If your argument is that the joke itself is lazy, then explain why the idea is lazy. The fact that the production of the image was automated doesn't establish that.

For the record, your rebuttal relies on several logical fallacies. The "you criticize AI while using the internet" comparison is a false analogy because my point was about the irony of criticizing the energy consumption of one internet-based activity while participating in another, not that you are somehow forbidden from criticizing technology you use. Your claim that the image is lazy because it was AI-generated is essentially circular reasoning because you are using the use of AI as both the evidence and the conclusion that the work was lazy. And saying that it could have been made in Paint.NET in 20 minutes is a non sequitur: the amount of effort required to produce an image does not establish whether the underlying joke is funny or whether the person who conceived it was creative. Those arguments don't establish your conclusion; they simply assert it from different directions.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#105 · Quote Reply

I apologize for bringing your logical fallacies to light. I realize pointing them out is intellectually lazy, but unfortunately it seems necessary when they make up the basis of the rebuttal. You're conflating the effort required to manufacture an image with the effort involved in creating the joke. The context of the joke isn't who manufactured the image; it's who made the joke. The AI didn't ...

Is this an AI generated response?

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mechoman444 lemmy.world mechoman444@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#106 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is this an AI generated response?

Yes.

This response was also AI generated.

No doofus it wasn't.

Google keyboard has a grammar and spelling check that's powered by AI and that is what I use because it's the quickest way to type all that up.

The words however are my own.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#107 · Quote Reply

Look.

The thing about a new technology is that once it exists, it never un-exists.

AI is here. It's never going away. Ever.

There are all sorts of actual concerning issues about AI that need to be taken extremely seriously. Personally, I could care less if it gets used to generate memes. It's not like memes are meant to look like actual, real situations that could trick people into thinking something that didn't happen did or vice versa. It's clearly for a laugh. It's not putting "meme artists" out of business because there is no industry for memes where people are putting their memes in meme galleries that people buy tickets to.

Getting mad over AI generated memes specifically just seems like a waste of energy. Like you're trying to find something to be mad about.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#108 · Quote Reply

The irony of using the internet on a device to post about the energy consumption of AI Oh no. Another "you are critical of capitalism and yet iPhone" post. the joke is considered unfunny specifically because it was AI-generated It's unfunny because it's lazy and cheap. The AI only further illustrates how lazy and how cheap. You could have done this in paint.net inside 20 minutes.

You could have done this in paint.net inside 20 minutes.

So you're admitting it's no work of art that should require lots of time and effort to create?

So why not use AI? Clearly you believe memes are something that should be cheap, easy, and quick to do. I agree. Why waste valuable time making a meme? Memes should be relatively low effort jokes. So why not use AI? It's one of the least harmful ways to use AI.

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IamMoonPie lemmy.world IamMoonPie@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-09
#109 · Quote Reply

Look. The thing about a new technology is that once it exists, it never un-exists. AI is here. It's never going away. Ever. There are all sorts of actual concerning issues about AI that need to be taken extremely seriously. Personally, I could care less if it gets used to generate memes. It's not like memes are meant to look like actual, real situations that could trick people into thinking som...

But here’s the question… how much could you care less?

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PhoenixDog lemmy.world PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-14
#110 · Quote Reply

But here’s the question… how much could you care less?

Is 'negative' a proper value?

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PhoenixDog lemmy.world PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-14
#111 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yes. This response was also AI generated. No doofus it wasn't. Google keyboard has a grammar and spelling check that's powered by AI and that is what I use because it's the quickest way to type all that up. The words however are my own.

hEy cHaT Is tHiS CoMmEnT Ai?

@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world in a nutshell

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#112 · Quote Reply

The verbosity of your interlocution is positively sesquipedalian.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#113 · Quote Reply

Jesus christ that text post was mildly infuriating. Please slow down and use words you both know how to spell and how to use in a sentence. kthx.

Right? Maybe they should use AI.

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#114 · Quote Reply

Whoever made that could have easily done it with basic photo editing skills instead of AI. Even if it didn't turn out great, it would still show that a person cared enough to try doing it themselves.

Who cares? It's a meme. You look at it for a few seconds and never think about it again.

Why spend time with an editing tool for something that gives people a quick laugh and makes you zero revenue?

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DarkFuture lemmy.world DarkFuture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-06
#115 · Quote Reply

Love Sinead but AI/the Bourgeoisie is the real enemy.

AI and people using it to make memes are not the real enemy.

The real enemy are the assholes using it for actual nefarious and greedy purposes. Using it to make memes doesn't fall into the nefarious or greedy categories.

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dracc discuss.tchncs.de dracc@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-09-25
#116 · Quote Reply

AI and people using it to make memes are not the real enemy. The real enemy are the assholes using it for actual nefarious and greedy purposes. Using it to make memes doesn't fall into the nefarious or greedy categories.

Using ChatGPT/Grok/Gemini/Whatevs to create memes is supporting the enemy, yes. Ultimately feeds the bourgeoisie by utilizing their services and pumping up their stock.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#117 · Quote Reply

Yes. This response was also AI generated. No doofus it wasn't. Google keyboard has a grammar and spelling check that's powered by AI and that is what I use because it's the quickest way to type all that up. The words however are my own.

This response was also AI generated.

Gotcha

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Exatron lemmy.world Exatron@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#118 · Quote Reply

Who cares? It's a meme. You look at it for a few seconds and never think about it again. Why spend time with an editing tool for something that gives people a quick laugh and makes you zero revenue?

That doesn't excuse using the plagiarism machine, sparky.

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mechoman444 lemmy.world mechoman444@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#119 · (edited) Quote Reply

This response was also AI generated. Gotcha

I'm happy you're happy.

Are you ai generated?

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mechoman444 lemmy.world mechoman444@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#120 · Quote Reply

This response was also AI generated. Gotcha

Also the fact that this is all you got in rebuttal to what I was saying is absolutely fantastic thank you thank you for showing us that you have absolutely nothing to contribute.

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ariaofdelusion lemmy.world ariaofdelusion@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-19
#121 · Quote Reply



My take

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tyranny crazypeople.online tyranny@crazypeople.online
Joined: 2026-06-11
#122 · Quote Reply

It's been enlightening to see how many people lash out at you personally, using the sleights they hope you'd consider most offensive, in response to your opinions on a technology.

this is what these people want Lemmy to be: post something thoughtful about a topic you're passionate about. every comment is attacking you personally, insulting you, and picking at the way you expressed yourself. they're not even disagreeing with the sentiment, purely just dont like a stranger's communication style and can't help but make their own unexamined reaction everyone's problem. i wish these people would get off Lemmy

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verily lemmy.dbzer0.com verily@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-10
#123 · Quote Reply

My take

Not just AI, but I recognized the use of it to create music videos featuring leaders. "Iran so far away" was a very popular video from months ago that racked up millions of views on YouTube.

And the creator is about as obviously a fascist as they could be without stating it outright.

Fascists clearly do not mind anybody who just memes on the people in power.

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pulsewidth lemmy.world pulsewidth@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-29
#124 · Quote Reply

Look. The thing about a new technology is that once it exists, it never un-exists. AI is here. It's never going away. Ever. There are all sorts of actual concerning issues about AI that need to be taken extremely seriously. Personally, I could care less if it gets used to generate memes. It's not like memes are meant to look like actual, real situations that could trick people into thinking som...

Blockchain is here. NFTs are here. The Metaverse is here.

Not long ago they were the 'unavoidable evolution of technology' that we were sometimes scolded for mocking.

Maybe they won't go away, ever. But that's actually not important.

Just because a technology exists doesn't mean it will be relevant whatsoever in the future - even if the technology is ostensibly a huge market with billions of dollars being poured into it, and there's nothing wrong with calling out stupid technology and complaining about it.

The AI LLM slopaverse is both a stupid business model and a stupid technology (given the amount of investment and valuations). Considering real world utility of LLMs I'd say it deserves around 1/1000th of the current investment - if rational people ran the world.

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