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Sahwa
reddthat.com
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LastYearsIrritant
sopuli.xyz
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kbal
fedia.io
kbal@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-11-03 |
Can someone (such as Signal itself) please explain how the "anonymous" payment is supposed to work? Concisely but in sufficient detail to understand the principle I mean, without just saying "zero knowledge" and doing a bunch of hand waving when you get to the complicated part. |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
Can someone (such as Signal itself) please explain how the "anonymous" payment is supposed to work? Concisely but in sufficient detail to understand the principle I mean, without just saying "zero knowledge" and doing a bunch of hand waving when you get to the complicated part.
Looks like it currently requires Google play. Not sure how it works on iphone.
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kbal
fedia.io
kbal@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-11-03 |
Looks like it currently requires Google play. Not sure how it works on iphone. Can I buy an account on a device that has no Play Services? Not yet. We have plans to add more payment methods, but currently only offer Play Store in-app payments, which requires Play Services.
I suppose you'd be buying some kind of generated token that doesn't correspond to your account ID in any way, then doing some fancy math to prove to the Signal servers that you have such a token without revealing which one it is, while at the same time preventing the same token being used more than once. Given that there's no need to tie it to any real-world attributes of the user (i.e. this is not like "age verification") it seems like this should be possible, but I'm curious about the details. |
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Kairos
lemmy.today
LodeMike@lemmy.today Joined: 2023-12-26 |
HAPPY to pay the price. Much cheaper than a phone number |
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sem
piefed.blahaj.zone
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-09-04 |
I suppose you'd be buying some kind of generated token that doesn't correspond to your account ID in any way, then doing some fancy math to prove to the Signal servers that you have such a token without revealing which one it is, while at the same time preventing the same token being used more than once. Given that there's no need to tie it to any real-world attributes of the user (i.e. this is...
I've heard this schema described theoretically, but never seen an example in production, though i also don't really seek it out |
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Sandbar_Trekker
piefed.zip
Sandbar_Trekker@piefed.zip Joined: 2026-07-16 |
Can someone (such as Signal itself) please explain how the "anonymous" payment is supposed to work? Concisely but in sufficient detail to understand the principle I mean, without just saying "zero knowledge" and doing a bunch of hand waving when you get to the complicated part.
TL/DR: You can read about it in detail here: According to PrivacyGuides, regarding this announcement:
According to Signal's support article:
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kbal
fedia.io
kbal@fedia.ioJoined: 2023-11-03 |
TL/DR: You can read about it in detail here: https://eprint.iacr.org/2019/1416.pdf According to PrivacyGuides, regarding this announcement: The payment uses the same zero-knowledge proofs as Signal's donation system, so they won't be able to correlate your payment info to you. According to Signal's support article: Is my payment information linked to my Signal account? No. Your payment informat...
Not exactly it seems, but we can read there about something which is apparently related to it in some way. If I ever manage to figure out which 3 of the 58 pages of mathematics paper it would take to explain the basic flow of the protocol, maybe it will become clear. |
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