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Does the average person know that jet fuel is just high grade Kerosene and not some specialized fuel that blows up easily?
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concerned sh.itjust.works concerned@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-25
#52 · Quote Reply

Probably not because it's extremely useless for 99% of people lol Does the average person know that a stalagmite is mostly calcium carbonate?

I knew both! AuDHD for the win.

Umm...what were we talking about again?

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glimse lemmy.world glimse@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#53 · Quote Reply

I knew both! AuDHD for the win. Umm...what were we talking about again?

Maps, I think? Or ships. Possibly trains...

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concerned sh.itjust.works concerned@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-25
#54 · Quote Reply

Maps, I think? Or ships. Possibly trains...

I swear it was neutron stars.

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SwingingTheLamp piefed.zip SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-12-27
#55 · Quote Reply

The entire point of jet fuel is that it DOESN'T "blow up easily", though. unlike gasoline, It actually takes quite a bit of effort to ignite avgas in it's liquid form because it's designed to be aerosolized before being ignited.

Once years ago, I used a few mL of gasoline as a solvent to clean grease from a part. To dispose of it, I put it in a can and tossed a lit match in.

The liquid gasoline extinguished the flame. Even gasoline is hard to ignite.

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Hemingways_Shotgun lemmy.ca Adderbox76@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-07
#56 · Quote Reply

I thought Avgas was 100ll, not jet fuel?

I can't remember the which is which. I just remember that Avgas and 100ll are the two types of aviation fuel. My brain doesn't have the ability to remember which is which. Which is probably why it's a good thing I'm not a pilot...

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TryingToBeGood reddthat.com TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com
Joined: 2026-03-31
#57 · Quote Reply

yes.

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WesternInfidels feddit.online WesternInfidels@feddit.online
Joined: 2026-01-29
#58 · Quote Reply

I don't know how easily it blows up, I'm too cool to turn around and watch the explosion

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gallopingsnail lemmy.sdf.org gallopingsnail@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-07-10
#59 · Quote Reply

I can't remember the which is which. I just remember that Avgas and 100ll are the two types of aviation fuel. My brain doesn't have the ability to remember which is which. Which is probably why it's a good thing I'm not a pilot...

Aviation gasoline or avgas is 100LL (100 octane, low lead), and jet fuel is Jet-A.

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neidu4 piefed.social neidu4@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-09-10
#60 · (edited) Quote Reply

Plus there would be wind fanning those flames hard which could raise the temperature some. But the other thing to consider is that the towers could have been built with substandard materials in the first place.

IIRC, the materials were fine, but the spray-on fireproofing left large patches uncovered. While not a direct cause, it certainly didn't help.

WTYP has a pretty good episode on the entire thing

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c0wboy dani lemmy.dbzer0.com nylo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-17
#61 · Quote Reply

Probably not because it's extremely useless for 99% of people lol Does the average person know that a stalagmite is mostly calcium carbonate?

does that mean you could use a chunk of a stalagmite as a tums in a pinch? (I think that's what tums is maybe its a different calcium)

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Noxy pawb.social noxypaws@pawb.social
Joined: 2024-12-16
#62 · Quote Reply

Does the average person know that it costs $2500 in fuel to get a boeing 747 off the ground?

I would have guessed more, and I have a pilot license!

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psud aussie.zone psud@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-07-26
#63 · Quote Reply

I knew, but only because I read a lot of cold war stories, and for war becomes hot stories. Running a jet on cooking kerosene was a plot point in one

I have since read about just engines and jet fuel

I don't work in that industry at all. I'm an IT systems analyst

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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-08-26
#64 · Quote Reply

The entire point of jet fuel is that it DOESN'T "blow up easily", though. unlike gasoline, It actually takes quite a bit of effort to ignite avgas in it's liquid form because it's designed to be aerosolized before being ignited.

Avgas and jet fuel aren't the same thing. Avgas is leaded gasoline used in airplane engines. Jet fuel is specially formulated for use in turbines.

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gastroglizzy piefed.social gastroglizzy@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-08-26
#65 · Quote Reply

I thought Avgas was 100ll, not jet fuel?

You're correct; the terms are not interchangeable.

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SnausagesinaBlanket lemmy.world snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
#66 · Quote Reply

I don't know how easily it blows up, I'm too cool to turn around and watch the explosion

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SnausagesinaBlanket lemmy.world snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
#67 · Quote Reply

The entire point of jet fuel is that it DOESN'T "blow up easily", though. unlike gasoline, It actually takes quite a bit of effort to ignite avgas in it's liquid form because it's designed to be aerosolized before being ignited.

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SnausagesinaBlanket lemmy.world snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
#68 · Quote Reply

And... Is this post about 9/11?
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elephantium lemmy.world elephantium@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#69 · Quote Reply

I swear it was neutron stars.

What if life were to evolve on a neutron star?

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concerned sh.itjust.works concerned@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-05-25
#70 · Quote Reply

What if life were to evolve on a neutron star?

Gamma-based life. Worlds full of hulk strength insectoids.

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myyass lemmy.world myyass@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-02
#71 · Quote Reply

Does the average person know that it costs $2500 in fuel to get a boeing 747 off the ground?

So like four people in Business class cover it...

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myyass lemmy.world myyass@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-02
#72 · Quote Reply

I’ve known it since the 7th grade and I ain’t particularly bright.

smells good right?

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expletivedeleted lemmy.zip expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-13
#73 · Quote Reply

I assume it's a reference to one of the 9/11 conspiracy theories. The claim was that jet fuel doesn't burn at a high enough temperature to melt steel. Therefore a bunch of burning jet fuel alone wouldn't have been enough to collapse the towers. Therefore someone must have put something else there. Even XKCD got in on the joke. https://xkcd.com/966/

You are nearly spot on: it isn't just the heat it will produce, but the lack of ignition due to the oxygen required for ignition.

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expletivedeleted lemmy.zip expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-13
#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Um...

Think things through.

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SnausagesinaBlanket lemmy.world snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
#75 · Quote Reply

Um... Think things through.

Get a life

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quediuspayu lemmy.dbzer0.com quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-06
#76 · Quote Reply

I don't think they do. I'm a person that likes aviation and I never think about jet fuel.

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expletivedeleted lemmy.zip expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-13
#77 · Quote Reply

Get a life

Um, another one? I am pretty sure I solidified this one.

Are you talking about Second Life, or are you promoting a new MMORPG?

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redhorsejacket lemmy.world redhorsejacket@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#78 · Quote Reply

IIRC, the materials were fine, but the spray-on fireproofing left large patches uncovered. While not a direct cause, it certainly didn't help. WTYP has a pretty good episode on the entire thing

This just in: scientists have determined that a more direct cause for the towers falling than defective spray-on fireproofing may exist. Rumors have begun to circulate that the WTCs collapse may be attributed to the two aircraft which collided with them. Details at 6.

(I kid, I kid)

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neidu4 piefed.social neidu4@piefed.social
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#79 · Quote Reply

This just in: scientists have determined that a more direct cause for the towers falling than defective spray-on fireproofing may exist. Rumors have begun to circulate that the WTCs collapse may be attributed to the two aircraft which collided with them. Details at 6. (I kid, I kid)

Well, it would've collapsed either way, as you can see on the pictures during the fire that the metal is starting to buckle uniformly around the entire floor with the fire. But patches without insulation probably meant that it collapsed sooner than it could've.

Didn't help anyone trapped, so the net result is the same in that I fail to see how 30 minutes extra before it crumbled would've made any difference

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__Lost__ lemmy.dbzer0.com __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-20
#80 · Quote Reply

What if life were to evolve on a neutron star?

Read Flux by Peter F Hamilton if you want to find out.

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elephantium lemmy.world elephantium@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#81 · Quote Reply

Read Flux by Peter F Hamilton if you want to find out.

I was thinking of Dragon's Egg by Robert L. Forward. I'll add Flux to my reading list. I enjoyed the one, so I'll probably enjoy the other.

Thanks for the suggestion

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Simon_Shitewood lemmy.ml Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-19
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

You are nearly spot on: it isn't just the heat it will produce, but the lack of ignition due to the oxygen required for ignition.

You'd be surprised at how much things aerosolise when they hit a skyscraper at 500 mph.

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expletivedeleted lemmy.zip expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-13
#83 · Quote Reply

You'd be surprised at how much things aerosolise when they hit a skyscraper at 500 mph.

Not at all. Seen it with my own eyes. Seriously, the effect mirrors a controlled demolition.

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-12
#84 · (edited) Quote Reply

No. I'd guess a lot of people, who don't work with it, think diesel blows up, even.

What the basic kinds of petroleum are, and which vehicles they go in, is one of those things any reasonably educated person should know, but the majority of the population actually won't.

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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#85 · (edited) Quote Reply

Probably not because it's extremely useless for 99% of people lol Does the average person know that a stalagmite is mostly calcium carbonate?

Just like how their government works, or what climate change is.

Like, people aren't actually dumb, but 1% of their attention on anything that they aren't paid to do can sure give that appearance.

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-12
#86 · Quote Reply

No. Most people think you can throw a lit cigarette or lighter on it and it will go up instantly too because of movies. I think Die Hard 2 was the worst lol, he like threw a zippo in the puddle of her fuel and then it followed the plane in mid air to blow it up. I don't think people know how octane level works either. I think they assume higher octane is easier to combust when it's the exact opposite.

Of all the media out there, action movies might be the worst for rotting brains. People can actually seperate porn or cartoons from reality.

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-12
#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

So like four people in Business class cover it...

Yeah, I thought it was supposed to be the main expense for airlines.

Edit: Oh, that's literally just takeoff.

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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#88 · (edited) Quote Reply

And the average person should also know that steel doesn't need to melt to lose a lot of it's load bearing capacity. At 500-600 Celsius, only 50% of steel strength remains.

Which, going right back around to jet engines, is why superalloys are a thing.

They aren't stronger or even more refractory than normal steel, just more expensive, but they don't soften at all until they're about to melt.

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-12
#89 · Quote Reply

Plus there would be wind fanning those flames hard which could raise the temperature some. But the other thing to consider is that the towers could have been built with substandard materials in the first place.

Plus aluminum, which planes are made of, does burn hot enough to melt steel beams. And concrete weakens in a fire as well.

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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#90 · Quote Reply

Because no one takes shop class and bends some steel stock.

Even people who've never done it are vaguely aware of blacksmithing, though, right? This seems like more of a failure to apply everyday material properties to a skyscraper.

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myyass lemmy.world myyass@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-02
#91 · Quote Reply

Yeah, I thought it was supposed to be the main expense for airlines. Edit: Oh, that's literally just takeoff.

Yeah I can imagine the rest of business class pays for the flight and economy is just a cherry on top. I mean they keep making the seats smaller to can in more fish. Some older planes you can tell they were fitted with the modern small seats. Paid for the window view? Enjoy your wall view. Then overbooking. And the kicker, your luggage requirements keep shrinking, so they can ship things.

https://liveandletsfly.com/united-airlines-f35-parts-israel-passenger-flights/

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CanadaPlus lemmy.sdf.org CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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#92 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah I can imagine the rest of business class pays for the flight and economy is just a cherry on top. I mean they keep making the seats smaller to can in more fish. Some older planes you can tell they were fitted with the modern small seats. Paid for the window view? Enjoy your wall view. Then overbooking. And the kicker, your luggage requirements keep shrinking, so they can ship things. https...

Airlines are going bankrupt all over the place, though, so it's not like they're making massive margins. Basically, people just prefer a shitty seat on a cheap flight.

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myyass lemmy.world myyass@lemmy.world
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#93 · Quote Reply

Airlines are going bankrupt all over the place, though, so it's not like they're making massive margins. Basically, people just prefer a shitty seat on a cheap flight.

I get that; flying is made to be such a pain now. When I flew ANA, Japan Airlines, or the Redeye; it was nice. Any US flights were torture. Being 6ft tall with back problems, it makes sleeping in cargo feel like a 5 star hotel.

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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-22
#94 · Quote Reply

The average person probably has no idea what cracking is to begin with.

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SnausagesinaBlanket lemmy.world snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
#95 · Quote Reply

The average person probably has no idea what cracking is to begin with.

The average person probably has no idea what cracking is to begin with

How many non-industry people do you know that know what a long chain hydrocarbon is?

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