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latetolemmy lemmy.world latetolemmy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-30
#102 · Quote Reply

What this image don't show is loonkeks with its bunghole gaped by ai hallucinated code

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luciferofastora feddit.org luciferofastora@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-07
#103 · Quote Reply

There is a saying in Russian that sounds something like "one little claw is stuck means the whole bird gets eaten". In other words, slop, not even once. I have an old collegue that I meet about once a year. A year ago he was all about using it responsibly and stuff, this year we started arguing about merits of slop, and in the middle of conversation he opened a phone, asked a bot for more argum...

The saying applies to the "bird", meaning the person using language models to generate code, not to the projects that code is contributed to. The risk of sliding into overreliance and dependency on machine-generated code is real and part of the reason I staunchly refuse to try it, but it's not the responsibility of the maintainers of the project to guard its contributors against their own lack of care.

The project maintainers only care about the quality of their contributions, so that is the target we should judge the policy by.

We know that AI "guardrails" are about as reliable as the models they're supposed to guard. So instead, we need human safeguards in place to hold the result, whatever its origin, to a high standard.

In that spirit, the KDE contributor guide makes it clear that you need to be able to own and explain the code and answer any questions, "even if it originates from the internet, an LLM, a friend, or your pet lizard." Whether that slop is natural or artificial in origin matters less than the fact that it's slop.
There is also a provision for dealing with unvetted contributions: "Throwing code over the wall" explicitly uses the example of "relying on an LLM to generate a patch, and then trying to get it merged without understanding the actual changes" and encourages maintainers to reject such requests.

So by these policies, if that proverbial bird gets stuck and stops delivering useful contributions, their slop should be rejected. Whether they use a text generator to produce arguments why it should be accepted doesn't matter if it's unacceptable.

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scutiger lemmy.world scutiger@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#104 · Quote Reply

Yes and maybe we shouldn’t continue this verbal standardization of Adobe products. Make people realize there are valid alternatives so they stop giving this corporation a shitload of money

It's also how genericization happens, which can nullify trademarks.

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leadore lemmy.world leadore@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-09
#105 · Quote Reply

Hey! They spent almost 30 minutes in Krita merging the shirt into the leg.

Yeah I'm trying to figure out if the downvotes are because people don't believe it's an AI image. How is it not obvious. Compare it to the original meme to see all the differences.

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ell1e leminal.space ell1e@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-07-16
#106 · (edited) Quote Reply

I read through the exact message chain that article is referencing some time ago, which did not lead me to the conclusion the article would suggest. It seems that he consistently refers to AI use from the perspective of finding bugs more so than than fixing them, which he could definitely do a better job clarifying. ::: spoiler The message https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/CAHk-=wi4zC+Ze8e+p3...

This is the Linux foundation generative AI policy: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/legal/generative-ai

Linus Torvald's position appears to be "Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects" and "AI is a tool, just like other tools we use".

I don't understand how you could possibly conclude from that, that it's just used for reviews. The are so many contributors, and if there is no central policy of not contributing LLM code, it seems inevitable to me that there is a lot of LLM code going on.

Or why wouldn't it be? Where do you get that confidence from? All I can see is that many involved people avoid admitting the seemingly rather obvious extent of it.

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jjj piefed.blahaj.zone jjj@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-08-18
#107 · Quote Reply

This is the Linux foundation generative AI policy: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/legal/generative-ai Linus Torvald's position appears to be "Linux is not one of those anti-AI projects" and "AI is a tool, just like other tools we use". I don't understand how you could possibly conclude from that, that it's just used for reviews. The are so many contributors, and if there is no central policy o...

Sorry, I was (without realizing) also responding to the claim you made in your other comment which links that article.

Thank you for your time.

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