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Ganbat lemmy.dbzer0.com Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#52 · Quote Reply

I just love the way you keep building your argument on things that were never said. This you? Ah, yes, one of approximately three major conflicts not guided by religion. Does being an edgelord come with selective amnesia, perhaps?

And at what point in that quote did I mention World War I or the Cold War? I didn't. Not to mention the fact that the figure I gave was sarcasm. I would think the way I said it might give that away, but here we are.

I'll make it simple for you: essentially every major conflict man has ever experienced has been the result of one group deciding that their sky genie is better than another group's, so that means it's alright to kill them. Even the ones that preach love and acceptance put a giant fucking asterisk on it. Buddhism is the only real exception, and that's because it's not even a religion in the same way the others are.

Christians? Ongoing conflicts in the middle east, with the dumbest and most evil amongst them calling it a "holy war".

Catholics? A history of pedophilia, rape and murder stretching from the crusades all the way up until now.

Muslims? Same shit different name.

And yes, it's obviously not all INSERT RELIGIOUS GROUP HERE, but that doesn't change the fact that hatred and othering of those who don't agree is a core tenet of all major religions.

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agent_nycto lemmy.world agent_nycto@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-10
#53 · Quote Reply

Was the inquisition for money? Was the Holocaust for money? How about genocides(pick one, there are so many) are they done for money?

Was slavery for religion? Was the genocide of native people's for religion? Was the slaughter of people of the Amazon for religion? Are people, today, working themselves to death for religion? Is pollution and global warming for religion?

So yeah. People kill each other for dumb things. Religion. Money. Love. Lust. Name a thing and people have probably killed for it.

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atopi piefed.blahaj.zone atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-19
#54 · Quote Reply

Religion is the greatest cause of pain That's capitalism, Clyde - not religion. Unstick your head out of your arrse and stop confusing your own farts for reality, okay?

Im pretty sure feudalism is worse

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
#55 · Quote Reply

Are you trying to say atheists cannot be rapists?

What an insane question to ask someone

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#56 · Quote Reply

lol literally everyone on Lemmy cares about that

Really?

Show me one (1) meme on here that addresses it. Just one.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#57 · Quote Reply

Really? Show me one (1) meme on here that addresses it. Just one.

Or..... you could just use the search tool, and look up "13th amendment"

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#58 · Quote Reply

Wrong answer. We don't trace things back to what he said, we trace if back to his followers actions. Reminds me of the likely apocraphal quote "I do not hate your christ, I hate your Christians" We are talking about people like you, not a dude who died 2000ish years ago.

we trace if back to his followers actions.

No, no, no, Clyde - the hysterical and ludicrously ahistorical screeds being regurgitated on here by you lot literally absolves them. Your (thoroughly contrived) problem is with religion itself, remember?

That is what you are blaming for all this, remember?

Go look at the first responses to my reply if you don't believe me, okay?

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

Religion is the greatest cause of pain That's capitalism, Clyde - not religion. Unstick your head out of your arrse and stop confusing your own farts for reality, okay?

Honestly, I mostly see capitalism as a religion. It provides a narrative about the meaning of life. It provides rules that it's followers should adhere to. It provides goals, restrictions, and social orders. It defines it's own ethics, worldviews, texts, doctrines, and priorities.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#60 · Quote Reply

Im pretty sure feudalism is worse

Im pretty sure feudalism is worse

Worse for whom?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#61 · Quote Reply

Honestly, I mostly see capitalism as a religion. It provides a narrative about the meaning of life. It provides rules that it's followers should adhere to. It provides goals, restrictions, and social orders. It defines it's own ethics, worldviews, texts, doctrines, and priorities.

Fair enough, I guess.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#62 · Quote Reply

Yeah I’m pretty sure you’re gonna want to do a little more research Let's do that, then. Wikipedia entry on Heinrich Himmler - Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, himself a former Roman Catholic, was one of the main promoters of the Gottgläubig faith.[2] He was particularly hostile towards Christianity, its values, the churches, and their clergy.[2] Himmler viewed all of Christianity and the prie...

Himmler was a paganist and occultist. You should read up on things before you talk about them.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#63 · Quote Reply

Or..... you could just use the search tool, and look up "13th amendment"

I did. I saw no memes about it posted by edgelord atheists.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

I did. I saw no memes about it posted by edgelord atheists.

No, you didn't. If you are going to openly lie, at least try a little.

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Jiral lemmy.world Jiral@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#65 · (edited) Quote Reply

By some coincidence God's wishes always perfectly align with the ruling class. According to what churchgoers are told, at least.

Not sure I am reading the new Testament right but Jesus, quite frequently, did not sound terribly observent to the ruling class to me.

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atopi piefed.blahaj.zone atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-19
#66 · Quote Reply

Wow, super weird that the comic whose message is anti-slavery set you off this hard...

Replying to a comment about how religious people should be sent to another planet

If someone, on a post about an immigrant murdering another person, with the title and body text saying that immigrants should be sent to another planet, complains about the group of people that have said similar things, would you agree with the reply "Wow, super weird that the post about how murder is wrong set you off this hard..."?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#67 · Quote Reply

Himmler was a paganist and occultist. You should read up on things before you talk about them.

Himmler was a paganist and occultist.

So just... edgy hippy shit, eh?

Do tell... do you edgelords regularly launch screeds against those, too?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#68 · Quote Reply

No, you didn't. If you are going to openly lie, at least try a little.

No, you didn’t.

Then you should have no problem proving that, should you?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#69 · Quote Reply

What an insane question to ask someone

So that's a no, self-styled "prole?"

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#70 · Quote Reply

And at what point in that quote did I mention World War I or the Cold War? I didn't. Not to mention the fact that the figure I gave was sarcasm. I would think the way I said it might give that away, but here we are. I'll make it simple for you: essentially every major conflict man has ever experienced has been the result of one group deciding that their sky genie is better than another group's,...

And at what point in that quote did I mention World War I or the Cold War?

So you actually are trying to claim WW1 or the Cold War was driven by religion?

Not to mention the fact that the figure I gave was sarcasm.

Howzabout a real one, then? Count the wars that you think wasn't caused by religion - shouldn't be too difficult. After all, the list cannot possibly be long (according to you), can it?

ssentially every major conflict man has ever experienced has been the result of one group deciding that their sky genie

Quick, call the historians! This genius right here has figured it all out! War is never about all-pervading imperialist exploitation, complicated class dynamics or geopolitical competition... NO! It's all about a "sky genie!"

Who coulda thunk it, eh?

Where the fuck did you get your history from, genius! Playing Age Of Empires, maybe?

Christians? Ongoing conflicts in the middle east,

I hate to break it to you, Clyde... but the white supremacist empires haven't required religion to justify white supremacist slaughter since the (so-called) "Enlightenment." Care to explain that, perhaps?

who don’t agree is a core tenet of all major religions.

Really?

“This letter contains the oath given unto them [the monks of St. Catherine’s Monastery], and he who disobeys that which is therein will be considered a disbeliever and a transgressor to that whereunto he is commanded. He will be regarded as one who has corrupted the oath of God, disbelieved His Testament, rejected His Authority, despised His Religion, and made himself deserving of His Curse, whether he is a Sultan or any other believer of Islam. Whenever Christian monks, devotees and pilgrims gather together, whether in a mountain or valley, or den, or frequented place, or plain, or church, or in houses of worship, verily we are [at the] back of them and shall protect them, and their properties and their morals, by Myself, by My Friends and by My Assistants, for they are of My Subjects and under My Protection."

  • exceprt from the Ashtiname of Muhammad

You were saying, edgelord?

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Whats_your_reasoning lemmy.world Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-22
#71 · Quote Reply

Not sure I am reading the new Testament right but Jesus, quite frequently, did not sound terribly observent to the ruling class to me.

Your mistake was actually reading the bible.

You're not supposed to read it, you're supposed to let other people cherry-pick passages for you, which you can then selectively observe while conveniently ignoring all the incongruent parts.

Ya silly.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#72 · Quote Reply

He's saying the dark ages were painful

And the ages before and after weren't?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#73 · Quote Reply

You are staggeringly dumb.

Scared, edgelord?

It's just history, after all... nothing to be afraid of, is there?

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atopi piefed.blahaj.zone atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-19
#74 · Quote Reply

No, you didn't. If you are going to openly lie, at least try a little.

Its technically right, there are no memes about it when you search it. Feels weird to exclude other posts about it(maybe they have the communities blocked or the client doesnt have a functional search for some reason?)

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atopi piefed.blahaj.zone atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-07-19
#75 · Quote Reply

Im pretty sure feudalism is worse Worse for whom?

For most of the population of a country using that system

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#76 · (edited) Quote Reply

Its technically right, there are no memes about it when you search it. Feels weird to exclude other posts about it(maybe they have the communities blocked or the client doesnt have a functional search for some reason?)

Youtube videos are memes. Posts are memes. I'm not sure it's technically right.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#77 · Quote Reply

No, you didn’t. Then you should have no problem proving that, should you?

No, I didn't. If you search for those, you'll find them.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#78 · Quote Reply

Himmler was a paganist and occultist. So just... edgy hippy shit, eh? Do tell... do you edgelords regularly launch screeds against those, too?

If you want to define religion as "edgy hippy shit", then I guess. And yes, people regularly launch screeds against paganist religions and occultist religions all the time.

But your sad attempts at insults and trolling could be good, if you at least put a little effort into them. Try making coherent sentences, as a starter.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#79 · Quote Reply

For most of the population of a country using that system

Oh, I don't know about that... I'd say that feudalist peasants would be rather terrified of our thoroughly unstable liberal boom-and-bust cycles.

And you conveniently forget that feudal peoples (and non-feudal peoples) all over the world had to be violently brutalised into accepting liberal economic realities... so there's that.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#80 · Quote Reply

If you want to define religion as "edgy hippy shit", then I guess. And yes, people regularly launch screeds against paganist religions and occultist religions all the time. But your sad attempts at insults and trolling could be good, if you at least put a little effort into them. Try making coherent sentences, as a starter.

And yes, people regularly launch screeds against paganist religions and occultist religions

Strange... I don't see edgelord atheists doing that at all. Mind showing me some examples?

Try making coherent sentences

Nooo... mine looks perfectly coherent. Can't say the same for you, though.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#81 · Quote Reply

No, I didn't. If you search for those, you'll find them.

Already did. Found none.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#82 · Quote Reply

Obviously not

Good. Edgelord atheists' grip on reality seems quite tenuos enough already without them claiming that.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#83 · Quote Reply

Already did. Found none.

No you didn't. I can confirm this, because I, and one other person have also searched, and we found a bunch.

Once again, put some effort into your trolling. Like, make up fake results, or try to dismiss facts. You aren't even giving it a good effort.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#84 · (edited) Quote Reply

And yes, people regularly launch screeds against paganist religions and occultist religions Strange... I don't see edgelord atheists doing that at all. Mind showing me some examples? Try making coherent sentences Nooo... mine looks perfectly coherent. Can't say the same for you, though.

This is so sad. I used to think that people using bots to troll others was the lowest of the low on the internet, but you've taught me that there's someone who can put even more of their time, but somehow less effort into it.

"no, u" at least has some historical context if you do it right, which adds humor, but you can't even pull that off properly.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#85 · Quote Reply

This is so sad. I used to think that people using bots to troll others was the lowest of the low on the internet, but you've taught me that there's someone who can put even more of their time, but somehow less effort into it. "no, u" at least has some historical context if you do it right, which adds humor, but you can't even pull that off properly.

Speaking of poeple who "can’t even pull that off properly" - will you be taking long with those examples?

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#86 · Quote Reply

No you didn't. I can confirm this, because I, and one other person have also searched, and we found a bunch. Once again, put some effort into your trolling. Like, make up fake results, or try to dismiss facts. You aren't even giving it a good effort.

and we found a bunch.

Show them to me.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#87 · Quote Reply

and we found a bunch. Show them to me.

I just did. I don't know how this can be so hard for you. You should have gone with a "those aren't actually memes tho", or "that actually proves what I was saying is correct". There's so many better ways to troll people, but you just can't bring yourself to the basics.

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dubs lemmy.dbzer0.com dubs@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-17
#88 · Quote Reply

Speaking of poeple who "can’t even pull that off properly" - will you be taking long with those examples?

They're right there. I don't get how it can be so hard for people to read what is on the page.

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FistingEnthusiast lemmy.world FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-18
#89 · Quote Reply

I did. I saw no memes about it posted by edgelord atheists.

Have you ever considered fucking off?

It'd be great if you would fuck off

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SirLeToet lemmy.world SirLeToet@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-01
#90 · Quote Reply

What nonsense take is this?

I am not religious. However it was Christians under the believe of their god that went on a quest to outlaw and ban slavery world wide, fighting wars and spending a significant budget doing so.

Americans and their american view of the world, the rest of us didnt exist pre 1776.

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bthest lemmy.world bold_atlas@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-31
#91 · (edited) Quote Reply

What nonsense take is this? I am not religious. However it was Christians under the believe of their god that went on a quest to outlaw and ban slavery world wide, fighting wars and spending a significant budget doing so. Americans and their american view of the world, the rest of us didnt exist pre 1776.

However it was Christians under the believe of their god that went on a quest to outlaw and ban slavery world wide, fighting wars and spending a significant budget doing so.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Nope.

Americans and their american view of the world, the rest of us didnt exist pre 1776.

The fuck does this have to do with anything in this post?

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SirLeToet lemmy.world SirLeToet@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-01
#92 · Quote Reply

However it was Christians under the believe of their god that went on a quest to outlaw and ban slavery world wide, fighting wars and spending a significant budget doing so. hahahahahahahahahaha Nope. Americans and their american view of the world, the rest of us didnt exist pre 1776. The fuck does this have to do with anything in this post?

You should read into the British Empire's war on slavery, godspeed amigo.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#93 · Quote Reply

Have you ever considered fucking off? It'd be great if you would fuck off

No edgelord. I think I'll stay and point out your irrationality a bit longer.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#94 · Quote Reply

Youtube videos are memes. Posts are memes. I'm not sure it's technically right.

Youtube videos are memes.

No, they are not.

Posts are memes.

No, they are not.

Try harder.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#95 · Quote Reply

I just did. I don't know how this can be so hard for you. You should have gone with a "those aren't actually memes tho", or "that actually proves what I was saying is correct". There's so many better ways to troll people, but you just can't bring yourself to the basics.

Show them to me.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-04-22
#96 · Quote Reply

They're right there. I don't get how it can be so hard for people to read what is on the page.

They’re right there.

How long will this take you?

A week?

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anton lemmy.blahaj.zone anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-07-24
#97 · Quote Reply

Let's have a look, shall we? Wikipedia entry on Heinrich Himmler - Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler, himself a former Roman Catholic, was one of the main promoters of the Gottgläubig faith.[2] He was particularly hostile towards Christianity, its values, the churches, and their clergy.[2] Himmler viewed all of Christianity and the priesthood as nothing but an indecent union, with the majority o...

was one of the main promoters of the Gottgläubig faith

That was literally a religious category for people who left organized religion but still believe in (the Christian) God. Actual atheist organizations where attacked by the SA.

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therealdries lemmy.dbzer0.com therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#98 · Quote Reply

was one of the main promoters of the Gottgläubig faith That was literally a religious category for people who left organized religion but still believe in (the Christian) God. Actual atheist organizations where attacked by the SA.

Actual atheist organizations where attacked by the SA.

Do tell... what symbol were atheists forced to wear in the death camps again?

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samus12345 sh.itjust.works samus12345@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#99 · Quote Reply

Not sure I am reading the new Testament right but Jesus, quite frequently, did not sound terribly observent to the ruling class to me.

According to what churchgoers are told, at least.

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Tiger666 lemmy.ca Tiger666@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-15
#100 · Quote Reply

Was slavery for religion? Was the genocide of native people's for religion? Was the slaughter of people of the Amazon for religion? Are people, today, working themselves to death for religion? Is pollution and global warming for religion? So yeah. People kill each other for dumb things. Religion. Money. Love. Lust. Name a thing and people have probably killed for it.

1 Paganism was the followed religion during slavery, those in power practiced it.

2 Catholicism is what drove the expansion into the new world.

3 Catholicism and lust for gold drove the conquistadors into the Amazon.

4 You have a point but we are not religious anymore and one might argue that capitalism is a form of religion.

5 Environmental deaths, really? Reaching much?

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Tiger666 lemmy.ca Tiger666@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-15
#101 · (edited) Quote Reply

Your god LOOL! My god? I don't think property laws extend to the supernatural, Clyde. Do tell... are you this triggered because of me? Or because of the deep-seated insecurities all you edgelords seem to have in common?

Nice attempt at a pivot, but I'm not triggered I'm disappointed by your lack of intellect and your small minded outlook of humanity(you would know this if your reading comprehension skills were were equal to or above a third grade level).

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