I live in MA. People like this are everywhere here.

They are not straw, they are very real, and they love to go around fucking up everyone else's good work because they are so self righteous and entitled.

In my own city they wanted to rebuild a park that was falling apart, and the project took 5 years, because insane people living nearby repeatedly sued the city to stop them from fixing/improving this park, and the suite were dismissed again and again because they were baseless, but entitled arrogant people don't care about anything other than getting their way, and punishing/hurting other people when they can't. And their 'talking points' or 'concerns' are always baseless, hysterical, and simple factually wrong.

Good news is they finally started construction on the park last spring, bad news is the costs of rebuilding it are now double what they would have been if they project had proceeded 5 years ago... and this is exactly why everything in the USA pubic works projects costs double or triple what it does in other countries... because so many of our private citizens are deeply emotionally invested in opposing development of any kind whatsoever, even when it's restoring a park with dying trees and crumbling walking paths.

It's like they watched PCU and said 'yes, please'.

So you didn't actually read it, then.

It's one night. You think it's acceptable for the community to hold the bar hostage like petulant children, for attempting to save itself from closing? The last owner is living in her car.

Masks also cause a precipitous drop in being able to communicate in loud public spaces, and not inhaling your own saliva.

I'm sorry, this your idea of being supportive? Throwing a tantrum and threatening because you don't get your way is support.

So.... don't go on the mask-free night....

do you go to city council meetings?

Yes, read the second paragraph in my post lol

I haven't been to one since COVID (and now I've moved) but I was also at almost every meeting about the redevelopment of my neighborhood. I lived in a working class commuter area and the only opponents to the apartment buildings were the rich homeowners in the neighborhood over. Their biggest stated concerns were the congestion.

They wanted more chain stores but lost the fight. Even their alderman came out in support of construction so they lost

That kind of defeats the purpose of it being a safe place for immunocompromised women.

Yeah. You know what else defeats the purpose? Getting it shut down because the owner doesn't wanna be homeless anymore.

Having a mask free night isn't going to save a failing business. Having vulnerable customers get sick and die there most definitely WILL.

Yeah, lol. I was wondering about it too because it felt very specific.

N95's are considered the best but even a cloth mask is actually better than no mask. Don't make perfection the enemy of good.

Right, so fuck that woman. It's her fault for trying to start a business. Let's not put a sign up telling compromised not to come in that night, let's just let it go under without trying anything, and condemn that fucking whore to the streets possibly for life, because she dared do something for the community. And don't forget to be a petulant toxic asshole so the rest of society never stops mocking you.

And the community is allowed to say "we don't want to come to your bar any more", and that's EXACTLY what this boycott is. They aren't telling her she has to change, just that they won't be coming to her bar any more if she doesn't. People are allowed to choose not to visit a piece. And you somehow have a problem with that??? You seem to think a boycott shouldn't be allowed and that people should be FORCED to visit her bar? WTF is wrong with you?

What the fuck do you think a sign is for? Who the fuck said anything about forcing anything on anyone? A boycott is not just choosing not to patronize a business, it's trying to rally the community to ruin a business and ruin the owner, usually because they did something evil. You advocate ruining a person because she doesn't cater exclusively to you, and only you. What the fuck is wrong with you?

Lived in a few states, with MA being one for about a year. MA pretty much is the strawman in right wing political cartoons made real. Shit, even doing the state taxes took longer than my federal taxes and the state taxes from the next state I moved to, combined.

Like if half the reactionary folks out there were honest with themselves, they'd realize they don't hate liberalism or leftism, they just hate Mass.

Haha lesbians haha

A boycott is not an attempt to ruin a business. You need to look up words you don't understand before starting arguments about them.

Here's a helpful link (you have to click on it to open it).
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/boycott

What the fuck is wrong with you?

I apparently try to explain simple situations to people that don't understand what boycotts are.

This is such a niche demographic that I have to wonder how it was ever viable. From the article, it sounds like it was specifically targeted towards lesbians (not the broader LGBTQ, or LGBTQ-friendly), who are immunocompromised, and want to spend time at a bar socializing with other immunocompromised lesbians. That's going to be a vanishly small percentage of any community. I'm betting that total population in the city is what they would need to have at the bar every weekend.

As a business model, it would probably even be a stretch to target that one day per week.

Cloth masks protect others from you, they do next to nothing to protect you from others.

Effectiveness of cloth face masks to prevent viral spread: a meta-analysis

Cloth face masks were found to have significantly poorer filtering performance than medical/surgical masks and N95 masks, but only if non-cloth masks were properly fitted. Our results illustrate the necessity of using well-fitting medical/surgical or N95-typed masks to prevent viral spread, although some allowance should be made in circumstances where higher compliance with cloth mask mandates are expected.

I think I’m the only one who read it based on the comments.

Shit identity politics like this is one of the major reasons the left is so fragmented. Calling out this kind of mental illness is considered rude now. I guess we'll just have to burn it down and start over.

LOL yeah same to a shocking amount but you can also really bad polyamory to my experience.
But also add Portland depending on what side of the country you are on.

We can all be ok with getting the ick from some people.

Its honestly tragic that people can be this vitriolic over someone who impacted their own life so hard to provide the kind of third space that people beg for.

Literally a group of J Jonah Jameson's.

I don't think it needed to be closer to New York, but closer to Amherst certainly would have helped.

And that is a specific joke about that area that few will get.

i'm someone who managed a third space. it became successful.

then I gave up, because it became nothing but people shoving their personal politics down everyone else's throats and demanding the space ONLY be for 'people like them'. I straight up quit, because all I could see was people who wanted to turn our third space into a space for them and theirs, and exclude anyone who didn't look/speak the way they wanted, including myself.

this is the problem with 'inclusivity' and all that. there is no such thing. all there are is different versions of exclusivity, and people will get violent and hostile if you try to take their exclusivity away.

because it's not about social justice, it's about their own weird egotistical power trip.