By what measure is the US a first-world country?

Android has this: every OEM calls it something different, but it’s called something similar to second space. iPhones don’t have it at all unfortunately.

Absolutely zero, anymore.

The article with that map claims 2/3 of the population. I think it could go to 90% if you included waterways and international airports.

I don't know, the map doesn't display that.

Isn't it still working through federal court? That's not a trivial thing.

• Travel with a cheap burner phone.
• Just before returning change your password to a long randomly generated string of letters and numbers.
• Write it down and mail it your home address.
• Lock your phone when you arrive at customs.
• Tell border agents what you did and that you can't unlock it until you get your letter next week.

Thus they only have 2 options: A. Seize it and have the lab unlock a burner with nothing on it. B. Or they can just let it go. In either case they're suckers wasting their own time instead of yours.

Sure, but he's not locked in a cage right now.

And I'm actually optimistic. Currently we have strong legal precedent that the government cannot force you to reveal your encryption credentials. We do not have precedent about the use of duress passwords. It could happen that the courts rule, as before, that they can't prove the person didn't accidentally type the duress password by mistake.

It would be great to see a win legalizing the use of duress passwords.

Nice thing for me is I already have 2 phones. I get a phone stipend for work so I can keep my sensitive personal stuff and my sensitive work stuff on separate devices. I work in the public sector, so it's especially important because of Open Records stuff.

But it also means that if I'm going on vacation out of country, I can just take the work phone that's already sanitized.

I'm hoping the brownshirts aren't smart enough for that, but you may be right.

An NDA is just a contract, an actual law always trumps it.

As someone who lives in a third world country, no third world country gives a damn about what's on your phone. The police only care if you make a scene in public (or publicly post something spicy) and somebody complains.

Option 3: They just detain you until you hand over the password. You are allowed to call someone to retrieve it from your mail.

I can't unlock my phone. How am I supposed to call anyone?

As if there weren't enough reasons already to avoid visiting this shithole country.

Very telling that USians are being Berlined and the reactions here are pretty mild. At least in Berlin they had communism inside. In the US is just a hellscape of late stage capitalism.

You refuse to let them search and they dont let you into the country.

What you're missing is that youtube only shows what the US govt allows so there will never be a reason for the Us govt to block it. Google is to US as Gazprom is to Russia.

I guess I'm old enough to remember calling people from other phones than your own

The land of the free eh?

How? I ain't got any numbers memorised. They're on my phone. It's locked.

Which laws are we supposed to obey nowadays? It's all very confusing.

Then you're going to be detained for quite a long time.

quietly

Not any more, kids.

Liberal democracies are rare because they are so challenging to maintain.

Restore to default settings before crossing international borders.

In the case of US citizens there is no need, there they know already the content of the phones

I actually have a separate work phone too. Jealous that you get a stipend for it. Mine is just a older phone with no sim card. Mostly sits in my home office. Connect it via hotspot when I'm out and about during work hours or am oncall.

No reason I can't repurpose it as my travel phone when needed like you do. That'd be pretty easy.

I can't imagine being optimistic about anything in the US.

It can also happen that they make new precedent that compels people to disclose passwords because it's more useful to their surveillance and border control regime.

So they can see everyone you call and hear your whole conversation?

Yeah, in many countries that metadata targets your for assassination. Better to not use a dumb phone with no encryption.

If you use a Sim card on a smart phone, you're doing it wrong. Phone calls should be made (with e2ee) in Signal, Matrix, Wire, SimpleX, etc.

Nothing is impossible, but that's highly unlikely. We have loads of prescient against this, nationally and constitutionally.

Like Roe?

This is the shit i warned if Trump got elected in 2024 = basically the end of the democratic experiment. We brought this shit onto ourselves.

congress is in a permanent stalemate so long as we keep re-affirming our political dupoloy -- the supreme court will be our daddy from now on unless we can distract ourselves long enough from our phones to take note of how the mexicans got rid of their political duopoly in 2017.

and -- ironically enough -- they were able to do their thing because of the phones. lol

This is true, but depending on the phone model and processor type, there are still exploits that can bypass bfu state

Mmm, good point