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Sorry Microsoft. Windows 10 is more stable than Windows 11, and your recent updates have made it obvious
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IronKrill lemmy.ca IronKrill@lemmy.ca
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This is the curse of being on the feature release of Windows compared to maintenance mode. Windows 10 also had awful bugs when it was the main squeeze. Remember One Drive causing file loss?

Don't want to be surprised by bugs? Swap to Debian Stable or something.

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ieightpi lemmy.world ieightpi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#3 · Quote Reply

🐧

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CapuccinoCoretto lemmy.world CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-24
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Sorry Microsoft, Window is ..., well, I don't know. I haven't used any in over a year. I never will again.

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Darkcoffee sh.itjust.works Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works
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I have to use windows at work and... Yeah, 11 is such trash.

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jtrek startrek.website jtrek@startrek.website
Joined: 2026-02-22
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Linux has been fine for me for a couple years. Fuck Microsoft.

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steelplatedmech piefed.ca steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-07-22
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If using Windows, ltsc is the only version to use. Stripped of lot of the bullshit by default, no Microsoft store, no onedrive, copilot, etc. Not sure if it is a ltsc feature, but can also uninstall edge.

Whether on 10 or 11, ltsc is the most Windows 7 like experience before Microsoft started pushing Windows Store, preloading programs, and pushing account sign in.

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SkavarSharraddas gehirneimer.de SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de
Joined: 2024-06-16
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I switched my gaming system from Windows 7 to 10 (Edu) when Steam stopped supporting 7 and 10 stopped getting feature updates. Has been pretty stable and annoyance-free since then. If I ever need 11 I hope it'll be after that stops getting feature updates too, but Linux is the more likely future.

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steelplatedmech piefed.ca steelplatedmech@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-07-22
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I switched my gaming system from Windows 7 to 10 (Edu) when Steam stopped supporting 7 and 10 stopped getting feature updates. Has been pretty stable and annoyance-free since then. If I ever need 11 I hope it'll be after that stops getting feature updates too, but Linux is the more likely future.

I've been using Windows 11 ltsc and that is stripped down with no Windows Store, onedrive, etc. And it just gets security updates. But, has the one feature I did care about with auto hdr.

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JeeBaiChow lemmy.world JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-04
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No shit. It irks me to no end they 'updated' the installers of pre win 11 versions of their software to force an upgrade to 11 before they will even install. Visual studio can suck my balls.

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-04
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Linux has been fine for me for a couple years. Fuck Microsoft.

I'm currently dealing with an annoying Linux bug, but it's specific to one distro and I'm already planning to switch to something more stable.

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Snapz lemmy.world Snapz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
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I boot two machines with the same peripheral setup on a switch, one W10 and one W11. All drivers are up to date on both, the W11 machine makes the monitors constantly flicker on and off and is essentially unusable during anything that uses a few % points of CPU. MISERABLE.

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toddestan lemmy.world toddestan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
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Windows 10 is now in that sweet spot where it's no longer getting borked by updates, but is still widely supported by most Windows software. Windows 7 was like that from 2020 until around late 2023. Windows 10 probably has got about 2, maybe 3 years left and then you'll start seeing support for Windows 10 getting dropped.

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iturnedintoanewt lemmy.world iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
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This is the curse of being on the feature release of Windows compared to maintenance mode. Windows 10 also had awful bugs when it was the main squeeze. Remember One Drive causing file loss? Don't want to be surprised by bugs? Swap to Debian Stable or something.

I don't think the level of fuckups of W10 back in the day was this insane. And if it was, we could agree Microsoft has an endemic problem with releasing undercooked software. At any rate, comparison or not, they need to get a proper QA team, yesterday.

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regdog lemmy.world regdog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
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This is the curse of being on the feature release of Windows compared to maintenance mode. Windows 10 also had awful bugs when it was the main squeeze. Remember One Drive causing file loss? Don't want to be surprised by bugs? Swap to Debian Stable or something.

Lesson learned: Only use a windows version after it has matured (Windows 10)

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Diplomjodler lemmy.world Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-08
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I'm currently dealing with an annoying Linux bug, but it's specific to one distro and I'm already planning to switch to something more stable.

Linux certainly has its share of annoyances. But I'd much rather deal with the Linux annoyances than the Windows ones.

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skujcici7755 lemmy.zip skujcici7755@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-26
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Personal opinion, win 11 is great. Have not had a single issue for 5 years. Much more resistant to malware effecting the bootloader, etc. No issue with games though to be fair I doubled my RAM to 32gb before the apocalypse lol

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
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Personal opinion, win 11 is great. Have not had a single issue for 5 years. Much more resistant to malware effecting the bootloader, etc. No issue with games though to be fair I doubled my RAM to 32gb before the apocalypse lol

Must.... Resist..... Urge.....

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
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Linux certainly has its share of annoyances. But I'd much rather deal with the Linux annoyances than the Windows ones.

If Linux screws up, it's nearly always my fault, and I can almost always find a way to fix it (and in the process gain a little more knowledge about how the whole thing functions).

It's how I imagine car mechanics feel about building and driving a car.

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Wildmimic anarchist.nexus Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-09-05
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I switched my gaming system from Windows 7 to 10 (Edu) when Steam stopped supporting 7 and 10 stopped getting feature updates. Has been pretty stable and annoyance-free since then. If I ever need 11 I hope it'll be after that stops getting feature updates too, but Linux is the more likely future.

Switch over to Linux now - the transition is by far not as harsh as it was a decade ago, and with Wine and accompanying technologies you'll be running whatever software you need in no time.

I was running Win10 as a gamer, because there was no alternative back then. Nowadays i am somewhat surprised if i stumble across some software i can't just run, and those are in most cases easily replaceable.

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dimjim sh.itjust.works dimjim@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-15
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The only place I have Windows these days is at work and I fuckin hate it. I have at LEAST one update a week which takes forever, they still haven’t fixed “update and shut down”, and teams/outlook only seem to get shittier and shittier. No I don’t want to use your fucking slop-pilot for my email and messaging it’s such a simple part of my job.

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Captain Poofter lemmy.world FunnyUsername@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
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Personal opinion, win 11 is great. Have not had a single issue for 5 years. Much more resistant to malware effecting the bootloader, etc. No issue with games though to be fair I doubled my RAM to 32gb before the apocalypse lol

same for me. wouldn't call it great, but I've used every windows regularly since 3.1 and 11 is no worse than any of the others. some terrible business decisions made and some privacy concerns, but as far as the actual OS's stability I rarely have any issues. i use my pc for streaming and coding and gaming.

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Captain Poofter lemmy.world FunnyUsername@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
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I boot two machines with the same peripheral setup on a switch, one W10 and one W11. All drivers are up to date on both, the W11 machine makes the monitors constantly flicker on and off and is essentially unusable during anything that uses a few % points of CPU. MISERABLE.

this sounds like a compatability issue with the switch

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Axolotl feddit.it Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it
Joined: 2025-10-10
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If using Windows, ltsc is the only version to use. Stripped of lot of the bullshit by default, no Microsoft store, no onedrive, copilot, etc. Not sure if it is a ltsc feature, but can also uninstall edge. Whether on 10 or 11, ltsc is the most Windows 7 like experience before Microsoft started pushing Windows Store, preloading programs, and pushing account sign in.

You can uninstall edge on normal windows too if you use an ISO for EU people IIRC

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Axolotl feddit.it Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it
Joined: 2025-10-10
#25 · (edited) Quote Reply

Linux certainly has its share of annoyances. But I'd much rather deal with the Linux annoyances than the Windows ones.

At least Linux bugs are usually fixable and errors aren't as generic as water

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kestrel7_7 lemmy.world kestrel7_7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-07-31
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Linux has been fine for me for a couple years. Fuck Microsoft.

Linux isn’t perfect, but it’s kind of hilarious how much more stable it is than Windows, considering it’s mostly made by volunteers and Windows is made by one of the most highly funded corporations on earth.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#27 · Quote Reply

Personal opinion, win 11 is great. Have not had a single issue for 5 years. Much more resistant to malware effecting the bootloader, etc. No issue with games though to be fair I doubled my RAM to 32gb before the apocalypse lol

I mean, I use Linux 90% of the time on a dual boot machine, I'd hate to be stuck on Windows.

...But I use Win11 for gaming.

And I've had zero issues for like two years? Admittedly, I have "neutered" features pretty hard, but still.

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Damage feddit.it Damage@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-12
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The only place I have Windows these days is at work and I fuckin hate it. I have at LEAST one update a week which takes forever, they still haven’t fixed “update and shut down”, and teams/outlook only seem to get shittier and shittier. No I don’t want to use your fucking slop-pilot for my email and messaging it’s such a simple part of my job.

Fucking outlook won't even open without a connection. It's a fucking mail client, not webmail. The assholes at Microsoft are just goddamn braindead.

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dimjim sh.itjust.works dimjim@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-10-15
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Fucking outlook won't even open without a connection. It's a fucking mail client, not webmail. The assholes at Microsoft are just goddamn braindead.

The new(new) outlook is basically just a wrapped PWA at this point. I’ve given up on the desktop version and only use it as a PWA lol

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cheat700000007 lemmy.world cheat700000007@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-14
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The only place I have Windows these days is at work and I fuckin hate it. I have at LEAST one update a week which takes forever, they still haven’t fixed “update and shut down”, and teams/outlook only seem to get shittier and shittier. No I don’t want to use your fucking slop-pilot for my email and messaging it’s such a simple part of my job.

Fucking explorer takes like a minute to start functioning on first use on reboot

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Killer lemmy.world Killer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#31 · Quote Reply

This is the curse of being on the feature release of Windows compared to maintenance mode. Windows 10 also had awful bugs when it was the main squeeze. Remember One Drive causing file loss? Don't want to be surprised by bugs? Swap to Debian Stable or something.

No because why would i use onedrive

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WoodYouLookAtThat lemmy.today WoodYouLookAtThat@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-05-18
#32 · Quote Reply

Lesson learned: Only use a windows version after it has matured (Windows 10)

I feel like the real lesson is not to use Microsoft products at all

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foenkyfjutschah programming.dev foenkyfjutschah@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-10-01
#33 · Quote Reply

Linux isn’t perfect, but it’s kind of hilarious how much more stable it is than Windows, considering it’s mostly made by volunteers and Windows is made by one of the most highly funded corporations on earth.

the ecosystem is heavily sponsored & shaped by the big ones.

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Hal-5700X sh.itjust.works hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-09
#34 · Quote Reply

I had zero problems with Win 11. But to be fair I went into group policies to turn off stuff.

  • https://www.privacyguides.org/en/os/windows/group-policies
  • https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/minimizing-windows-11-data-collection/28193
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skujcici7755 lemmy.zip skujcici7755@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-26
#35 · Quote Reply

same for me. wouldn't call it great, but I've used every windows regularly since 3.1 and 11 is no worse than any of the others. some terrible business decisions made and some privacy concerns, but as far as the actual OS's stability I rarely have any issues. i use my pc for streaming and coding and gaming.

Conspiracy theory but foreign states prefer we use win 10 as its easier to infect with malware than win 11 running on TPM (cue the downvotes)

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natebluehooves pawb.social natebluehooves@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-03
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Conspiracy theory but foreign states prefer we use win 10 as its easier to infect with malware than win 11 running on TPM (cue the downvotes)

nice bait.

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FreddiesLantern leminal.space FreddiesLantern@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-09-19
#37 · Quote Reply

Fucking outlook won't even open without a connection. It's a fucking mail client, not webmail. The assholes at Microsoft are just goddamn braindead.

Rightclick the background graphic in outlook. It's a fucking webadress, you can copy/paste it. They can't even have a stupid piece of artwork on your hd. Ok fair enough it's outlook, it's supposed to be online. But this is just lazy.

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LeHappStick lemmy.world LeHappStick@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#38 · Quote Reply

I never had a single issue with Windows 11, it ran as smoothly as Windows 10 and even 7(interesting anecdote, the only 2 BSOD I got were on W7).

That being said... I've been using Fedora KDE exclusively for almost a year now, it is pretty good, so I've probably missed all the recent issues.

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skujcici7755 lemmy.zip skujcici7755@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-26
#39 · Quote Reply

nice bait.

Its not bait
https://www.pcmag.com/explainers/windows-11-is-ultra-secure-dont-mess-it-up

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Damage feddit.it Damage@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-12
#40 · Quote Reply

Rightclick the background graphic in outlook. It's a fucking webadress, you can copy/paste it. They can't even have a stupid piece of artwork on your hd. Ok fair enough it's outlook, it's supposed to be online. But this is just lazy.

Ok fair enough it’s outlook, it’s supposed to be online

What? No. The whole point of a mail client is to avoid webmails.

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CileTheSane lemmy.ca CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-21
#41 · Quote Reply

Linux isn’t perfect, but it’s kind of hilarious how much more stable it is than Windows, considering it’s mostly made by volunteers and Windows is made by one of the most highly funded corporations on earth.

It's all about the design philosophy. Linux is made by volunteers, but their goal is functionality for the user. Windows has a lot of funding, but their goal is more profits for the shareholders.

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CileTheSane lemmy.ca CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-21
#42 · Quote Reply

Linux certainly has its share of annoyances. But I'd much rather deal with the Linux annoyances than the Windows ones.

At least when I'm trying to fix something in Linux the OS itself isn't trying to fight me.

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Snapz lemmy.world Snapz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#43 · Quote Reply

this sounds like a compatability issue with the switch

You see GATT the point is that I boot this setup with win10 and win11. It worked in win10, the legacy machine. Didn't work with win11. Lesser experience by every measure. And it wasnt great to start with

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FreddiesLantern leminal.space FreddiesLantern@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-09-19
#44 · Quote Reply

Ok fair enough it’s outlook, it’s supposed to be online What? No. The whole point of a mail client is to avoid webmails.

Ok fair enough it's a mail client...deja vu

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jason discuss.online jason@discuss.online
Joined: 2024-12-11
#45 · Quote Reply

Someone at Microsoft right now: I bet it would be easier to break 10 than fix 11....

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skujcici7755 lemmy.zip skujcici7755@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-26
#46 · Quote Reply

same for me. wouldn't call it great, but I've used every windows regularly since 3.1 and 11 is no worse than any of the others. some terrible business decisions made and some privacy concerns, but as far as the actual OS's stability I rarely have any issues. i use my pc for streaming and coding and gaming.

Some people are too young to recall the frequent crashes on Windows XP and Mac system 8 or 9. Current OS's are absolutely rock solid in comparison

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skujcici7755 lemmy.zip skujcici7755@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-26
#47 · Quote Reply

Linux has been fine for me for a couple years. Fuck Microsoft.

https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2025/08/foreign-adversaries-are-trying-weaponize-open-source-software-report-finds/407210/

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