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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-24
#202 · Quote Reply

Nah, it's not that bad. You don't need to optimize the living hell out of it and they also have some ready-made binary packages. Plus you can also use flatpak for instance to make your life easier.

Sounds pretty rad actually if one is packing a halfway decent processor! :) Thanks for enlightening us!

You're right, I've learned to love flatpaks for certain things. The sandboxing can be a little reassuring and I'll definitely reach for it if I'm getting dependency-hell from a core package and just "Need it to work without spending a weekend on it." :p

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Goodlucksil lemmy.dbzer0.com Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-08-15
#203 · Quote Reply

If it can't do everything your main machine needs to do, it can't possibly become your main machine.

But it CAN do it, it just needs a bit of work, be it by yourself oor by someone on the devs' side

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jerakor startrek.website jerakor@startrek.website
Joined: 2024-04-21
#204 · Quote Reply

The Dunning Kruger-effect is a shaky concept. Recent studies seem to have disproved it in some ways.

The people who reference Dunning-Kruger often vastly overestimate how competent they are at statistics.

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ragas lemmy.ml ragas@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-03-23
#205 · Quote Reply

That's actually pretty reassuring! I was under the impression it was a huge flex haha. I'm curious how much practical speed you gain from compiling everything to your specific architecture. 🤔

It depends. You also have to decide if you want to use LTO or PGO or similar techniques to further boost performance (but massively impacting compile time).

Generally Gentoo 'feels' smoother than other distributions. And I had an old netbook that used to be unable to play HD content on Ubuntu and the like, but HD content worked smoothly on Gentoo.

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distal lemmy.ml distal@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-08-06
#206 · (edited) Quote Reply

The people who reference Dunning-Kruger often vastly overestimate how competent they are at statistics.


Plot with green points is Dunning Kruger data. It's hardly correlated.

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SleeplessCityLights programming.dev SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-10-03
#207 · Quote Reply

The Dunning Kruger-effect is a shaky concept. Recent studies seem to have disproved it in some ways.

It tends to explain why entry level programmers act the way they do. Like when I graduated I was definitely on the peak of mount stupid but as I learned more I realized how little I knew. I did not externalize this as I was just trying to make iy through my days, however I have seen some entry levels absolutely fuck things up because they thought they were geniuses. It was exactly like that bell curve where idiots and experts do the same simple thing but mediocre people do the most complicated thing possible with 5 layers of abstraction.

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Kangae_Hishiryo scribe.disroot.org Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org
Joined: 2026-04-13
#208 · (edited) Quote Reply

"What's a file anyways, more than a bunch of bytes in a specific order?"

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AnimalsDream slrpnk.net AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-06-29
#209 · (edited) Quote Reply

How about an operating system that respects your time? Cause Linux aint that if I have to sift through dozens of badly documented online manuals just to get something small working the way it should. Windows is much better in that regard.

So are you immediately trying to pull the conversation away from ethics, because you know Microsoft has no leg to stand on in this regard? Who cares that the founder of MS is heavily implicated in the Epstein files if you (supposedly) save a little time, right? Or I guess it doesn't matter that that same company is actively providing surveillance tech support to Israel in their genocide of Palestine? That they censor their employees emails from speaking about the very atrocity they're complicit in? Or that the same surveillance infrastructure is being used at home in service of an authoritarian regime?

That's not even getting into all the gritty details of all the little annoyances and rights abuses - which have been accurately predicted by free software advocates for decades now - that inevitably stem from proprietary tech companies like Microslop, which collectively we are now calling enshittification.

But even ignoring the massive pile of shits about Microsoft and Windows to address your argument in a vacuum, does Windows respect your time? Really? Does Windows respect your time when it forces you to go online and sign up for an online account, and login to that account to enable their at-home spyware, just to install their operating system? Does it respect your time when you have to go through a potentially hours-long painful update procedure on a fresh install? How about when the OS runs awfully sluggish even on great hardware? Does MS respect your time when you have to go out of your way to research and install multiple tools and scripts to try in vain to gut all the spyware, AI garbage, adware, and bloat, and run 3rd party system tools to suppress other elements of the OS just to make the damn thing halfway usable and have the illusion of being something that can be trusted?

Even on your own little point, where is this superior documentation you speak of? Because every time I've run into a problem on Windows, their support pages have only ever given me the most generic troubleshooting answers that have been completely unhelpful. Please show me documentation that comes even close to the thoroughness and quality of the Arch Wiki.

Assuming any of what you said is even in good faith, and that you're not just a shill or simp, here's what you need to consider: Windows is something that most people have been using all their lives. When you've been operating something that long, it feels easier. You're more able to ignore the pain points because habits are already deeply settled, and you know your way around. That's the biggest reason Linux feels like such a hassle at first - learning new things takes time, and is always frustrating. I know this experientially because at one time I struggled to use Linux systems too, but now I have the reverse problem. I've been using Linux long enough, and Windows has devolved and changed enough, that on the rare occasion I try to use that piece of shitware, it is the most frustrating thing in the world. Windows 7 was something I was used to. But Windows 10 and 11 are new and unfamiliar to me, and consequently feel damn near unusably bad.

Does Linux have things it needs to improve? Of course, but at least it's something worth improving. You're trying to compare imperfect, yet a remarkable collection of software, to something that is literally just malware at this point. If anything, virus scanners should be adding Windows to their definitions lists.

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AnimalsDream slrpnk.net AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-06-29
#210 · Quote Reply

Idk, I've tried throwing it on some machines and every time it's just not worked

If it doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. Plenty of other distros are fine too, and some more appropriate for certain use cases than others.

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blarth thelemmy.club blarth@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-03-16
#211 · Quote Reply

It’s a series of files (tubes)!

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distal lemmy.ml distal@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-08-06
#212 · (edited) Quote Reply

It tends to explain why entry level programmers act the way they do. Like when I graduated I was definitely on the peak of mount stupid but as I learned more I realized how little I knew. I did not externalize this as I was just trying to make iy through my days, however I have seen some entry levels absolutely fuck things up because they thought they were geniuses. It was exactly like that bel...

Just because it explains an experience, doesn't mean it's statistically true in a deep way. I would tend to agree that the Dunning Kruger effect is a nice logical story, a shorthand if you will. I would really be careful about placing undue confidence in neat little explanations of a stupefyingly complex word, especially when it concerns yet incomprehensible structures like the brain.

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AnimalsDream slrpnk.net AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-06-29
#213 · Quote Reply

Nah, the installer is much more tame than it used to be. I just like to poke fun at ye olden times. I did make a huge recent mistake by using an NVIDIA GPU on Debian. Every time it updated was playing Russian roulette with "is this gonna break my system and send me into six hours of troubleshooting?" Til I finally said fuck it and swapped it with my brother for his AMD card. And I haven't had a...

I'm having my own issues with an old laptop with an nvidia card, but on Fedora. Upgraded from 43 to 44 recently. I love how relatively pain-free Fedora updates and upgrades are, especially for being a somewhat bleeding edge distro.

But after the last upgrade I'm having an issue now where closing the lid to put it into sleep mode causes it to wake to a black screen. I've just been having to shut down every time I step away.

Never getting Nvidia again.

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solarspark lemmy.ml solarspark@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-01
#214 · Quote Reply

It’s a series of files (tubes)!

And files that can be deleted while even in use just because.

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solarspark lemmy.ml solarspark@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-07-01
#215 · Quote Reply

That's me, who started using Linux 5 months ago. I'm like, "I use Linux btw" to everyone.

Who cares, be loud and proud about it.

Personally I'm just going to ramp up being annoying to my friends until they switch because they'll thank me in a couple years and also because they deserve it

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muhyb programming.dev muhyb@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-05
#216 · Quote Reply

I assumed the same as you when I tried out the BSDs. I went with FreeBSD first because I assumed that was the better supported one. Wifi was absolutely horrible on it. connection would constantly drop, or was slow, etc. on OpenBSD i haven't had those issues. Also had a lot of issues setting up a VM on FreeBSD and getting certain USB devices to work correctly. neither of those issues on OpenBSD.

By the way, I watched a video about OpenBSD and kinda intrigued to put it on my old Thinkpad. Well, at least I'll consider if I can make it without a headache. I have a plan to make a really minimal (and maybe secure) writing machine. :)

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Damage feddit.it Damage@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-12
#217 · Quote Reply

Ah, permissions chicanery. Had to deal with that with connecting a Switch 2 controller with a WebUSB enabler. To be fair, once you add the right udev rules (it is a bit of a pain, yes), it should work for any other devices of the same type (I think it's any with the same USB ID so like same manufacturer and model? Don't quote me on that though). Still, I wish Chromium (since Firefox as far as I...

udev? WATCH -N 1 CHMOD A+RWX /DEV

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lime! feddit.nu lime@feddit.nu
Joined: 2024-08-21
#218 · Quote Reply

Everything's a file.

except that thing. ...and the other thing. that thing used to be a file but it's not anymore. that's only a file if you use this specific shell. that one is a file system, but there's no files in it. oh don't touch that file, that's deprecated. oh that's only a partial file, you need to open this one too otherwise it breaks.

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Damage feddit.it Damage@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-12
#219 · Quote Reply

How about an operating system that respects your time? Cause Linux aint that if I have to sift through dozens of badly documented online manuals just to get something small working the way it should. Windows is much better in that regard.

Good for you, stay where you are

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this_jury_is_hung lemmy.world this_jury_is_hung@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-14
#220 · Quote Reply

And files that can be deleted while even in use just because.

Why would a file not be deletable while in use?

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Rose slrpnk.net umbraroze@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-09-18
#221 · (edited) Quote Reply

"It's called a shovel," said the Senior Wrangler. "I've seen the gardeners use them. You stick the sharp end in the ground. Then it gets a bit technical."
—Terry Pratchett: Reaper Man

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jaschen306 sh.itjust.works jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-09
#222 · Quote Reply

But it CAN do it, it just needs a bit of work, be it by yourself oor by someone on the devs' side

Counter argument. What is the goal of owning a computer in the first place? Needing to do "a bit of work" with the OS or actual work.

I don't want to be a Linux developer. I want to do work. Sometimes I feel like I'm too much developer.

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jaschen306 sh.itjust.works jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-09
#223 · Quote Reply

Ah, permissions chicanery. Had to deal with that with connecting a Switch 2 controller with a WebUSB enabler. To be fair, once you add the right udev rules (it is a bit of a pain, yes), it should work for any other devices of the same type (I think it's any with the same USB ID so like same manufacturer and model? Don't quote me on that though). Still, I wish Chromium (since Firefox as far as I...

My PC just programmed all the units in my mesh in around 5 minutes. It would have likely taken longer trying to fix the USB connector. I should figure out how to fix this edge case so I don't have to take my old PC out again.

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jaschen306 sh.itjust.works jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-09
#224 · Quote Reply

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Whoa man. You ok?

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SleeplessCityLights programming.dev SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-10-03
#225 · Quote Reply

Just because it explains an experience, doesn't mean it's statistically true in a deep way. I would tend to agree that the Dunning Kruger effect is a nice logical story, a shorthand if you will. I would really be careful about placing undue confidence in neat little explanations of a stupefyingly complex word, especially when it concerns yet incomprehensible structures like the brain.

Being explained in experience is the worst proof, it's all bias. I should have been more clear, I want it to be true because it makes sense, but it is incorrect.

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GaryGhost lemmy.world AntonioAndolini@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-26
#226 · Quote Reply

But it CAN do it, it just needs a bit of work, be it by yourself oor by someone on the devs' side

If you get Microsoft office to install and function, let me know how you did

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distal lemmy.ml distal@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-08-06
#227 · Quote Reply

Being explained in experience is the worst proof, it's all bias. I should have been more clear, I want it to be true because it makes sense, but it is incorrect.

Ahh, that clears it up. I misunderstood you.

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dgdft lemmy.world dgdft@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-26
#228 · (edited) Quote Reply

Plot with green points is Dunning Kruger data. It's hardly correlated.

Using this plot as a statistical argument against the idea of Dunning Kruger is pretty Dunning Kruger.

It’s a scatter plot with hella dense overlap and no density indicator, and a best-fit line that doesn’t match the visual skew. Different ranges and scales on the axes are wonky as hell and make it hard to follow a 1:1 reference line. Try tracing a mental line from (75,75) to (150,150) and it looks much cleaner.

It seems to show subjective vs. evaluated IQ results, which mostly shows people generally think they’re far above average. There’s clearly a statistically significant positive correlation in the trend of modest magnitude.

More importantly though, it’s a bit of a weird thing to tie to Dunning Kruger: The plot tells us something about how well people can guess how “cognitively gifted” they are relative to peers, but that’s not a reasonable proxy for how people might self-evaluate on a skill-based or knowledge-based domain.

E: and I went looking for the source and that’s fake, simulated data you’re presenting as real there lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect#Statistical_and_better-than-average_effect

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distal lemmy.ml distal@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-08-06
#229 · (edited) Quote Reply

Using this plot as a statistical argument against the idea of Dunning Kruger is pretty Dunning Kruger. It’s a scatter plot with hella dense overlap and no density indicator, and a best-fit line that doesn’t match the visual skew. Different ranges and scales on the axes are wonky as hell and make it hard to follow a 1:1 reference line. Try tracing a mental line from (75,75) to (150,150) and it l...

I'll correct myself, the data is simulated and I skipped the word. You are completely right to remind me of this. But there are a few important considerations here.

  1. The original DK study used a IQ like score based on general cognitive faculties for its argument, subjective vs. measured.

Wiki quote: "The initial study by David Dunning and Justin Kruger examined the performance and self-assessment of undergraduate students in inductive, deductive, and abductive logical reasoning; English grammar; and appreciation of humor."

  1. Second of all, for this I have consulted the study itself, according to my cursory read the sample size of the study seems to be below 100. I'll let that speak for itself.

  2. A new study working with more data, that doesn't just present generalised skill shows that, just like in the simulated data, it is still a blob following a normal distribution in terms of density. The simulated data was meant to show how misleading inferences can be made with noisy results.


from https://doi.org/10.1037/rev0000644

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Zeniv lemmy.quasarke.net Zeniv@lemmy.quasarke.net
Joined: 2026-09-19
#230 · Quote Reply

Well. ACTUALLY, it's very simple you see every time you spin up a new linux box a little piece of Linus Torvold's soul get's imprinted in the CPU registers and then that fragment handles everything from there.

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bertlewirth lemmy.world bertlewirth@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-09-15
#231 · Quote Reply

The linux is silent

not for linux users!

source: I use linux.

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krakloskewm lemmy.zip krakloskewm@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-10-09
#232 · Quote Reply

Check out dbus and notify. And then unpack your dracut initrd.

I don't understand the dbus.

I've tried.

But I just don't get it.

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krakloskewm lemmy.zip krakloskewm@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-10-09
#233 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Rtfm?

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redjard reddthat.com Redjard@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-06
#234 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don't understand the dbus. I've tried. But I just don't get it.

Understand on what level?

The basic idea is that dbus is a type of communication layer and api.
Services can register there and programs see their registrations.
dbus can in theory then launch a service too, so things don't have to run all the time.
The idea is similar to having some known config file, that programs write to and that a service listens on or uses later. But dbus has more granularity.

It also often runs the other way, with system components presenting info in dbus and programs using it, to adapt to user configuration.

And let's not even get into udev.

Point here is that dbus could be implemented via a command and an sqlite database for example. The command checks the database and constructs the dbus state from it.
But for likely performance reasons it isn't, so this info is simply hidden in dbus, in ram, instead of being a file.

You can access dbus via a socket file ofc, but it's not like you can mount it.

Even more confusingly, the internal ephemeral dbus structure with its apis and endpoints resembles a filesystem. In that way it is similar to the w!ndows registry, though not nearly as bad.

so yeah dbus is most definitely not files

edit: also there's multiple dbusses, usually one per user and one for the system. Those two hold different apis and info. It's just the same thing twice tho.

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krakloskewm lemmy.zip krakloskewm@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-10-09
#235 · Quote Reply

Understand on what level? The basic idea is that dbus is a type of communication layer and api. Services can register there and programs see their registrations. dbus can in theory then launch a service too, so things don't have to run all the time. The idea is similar to having some known config file, that programs write to and that a service listens on or uses later. But dbus has more granula...

All those levels.

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redjard reddthat.com Redjard@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-06
#236 · Quote Reply

All those levels.

I mean what do you wanna know?
What's your concrete question, or how did you get confused by dbus?

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krakloskewm lemmy.zip krakloskewm@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-10-09
#237 · Quote Reply

I mean what do you wanna know? What's your concrete question, or how did you get confused by dbus?

I'm being facetious

Your comment was actually very thorough and helpful.

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