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DeckPacker
piefed.social
DeckPacker@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-04-05 |
Hey, Anyway, I like this setup, because it is fully FOSS and I have 100% control of what my VPS does. It is really expensive though and I am trying to reduce my monthly expenses right now. I saw online, that you can get a free managed instance of Pangolin on their website (https://pangolin.net/pricing Cloud). It would meet all my needs, but I wouldn't be 1. Fully FOSS (because they probably run the business licensed version of their software) and 2. I wouldn't have full control. These services work by managing all the https certs themselves, so the have to decrypt all their traffic and send it through the tunnel to your server. Theoretically, Pangolin could log all my traffic to and from my server, which would be a huge privacy risk. But probably they're not, because that would be really impractical...? I don't know. Do you think, it would be worth the privacy tradeoff for the cost savings? |
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Matt The Horwood
lemmy.horwood.cloud
mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloudJoined: 2023-07-27 |
yes I would, I have moved from a fixed line with static IP at home to starlink and pangolin has been my life line. I like having all my own infrastructure where I can manage it, I like to know how things work. Also have a look at OVH for VPS |
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Leon
pawb.social
Dojan@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-03-20 |
If FOSS is a concern you could look into NetBird. They also have a hosted alternative but as far as I know the entire stack is FOSS. It’d still be a matter of trusting a private company though. |
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eodur
piefed.social
eodur@piefed.social Joined: 2025-08-27 |
Totally, though I use towonel on an OVH VPS. Couldn't be happier. |
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EpicFailGuy
lemmy.world
EpicFailGuy@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-05 |
It's so worth that I did it twice. |
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DeckPacker
piefed.social
DeckPacker@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-04-05 |
If FOSS is a concern you could look into NetBird. They also have a hosted alternative but as far as I know the entire stack is FOSS. It’d still be a matter of trusting a private company though.
Yeah, I will maybe look into it, thanks. Allthough, at that point I could also probably trust Pangolin aswell, their stuff is also mostly FOSS |
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DeckPacker
piefed.social
DeckPacker@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-04-05 |
Totally, though I use towonel on an OVH VPS. Couldn't be happier.
Oh, that's really cool. I also tried that but couldn't get it to work |
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hendrik
palaver.p3x.de
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de Joined: 2021-08-21 |
Maybe as another option, you could try to find a few other students and pool your money for a shared VPS? Back then I used to share an internet connection with few people to make it more affordable. We also used to share some storage space for stuff and the CS students did a website and an internal message board. I'm old, though. No clue how they do it as of today. |
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I_Am_Jacks_____
sh.itjust.works
I_Am_Jacks_____@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-04 |
You can still get a free account with Oracle Cloud |
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DeckPacker
piefed.social
DeckPacker@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-04-05 |
Maybe as another option, you could try to find a few other students and pool your money for a shared VPS? Back then I used to share an internet connection with few people to make it more affordable. We also used to share some storage space for stuff and the CS students did a website and an internal message board. I'm old, though. No clue how they do it as of today.
That is a cool idea, but unfortunately, I don't know anyone, that would be willing to do this. One of my friends has a selfhosted server, but he doesn't want to pay for stuff like that. He uses everything through a VPN, so he has no running costs. I did just come up with a pretty good solution though. I looked into Netbird and they actually have tls-passthrough functionality, so I could just run my nginx-reverse proxy locally which handles the certs and encryption and I could be 100% shure, that the company can't read my traffic. |
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DeckPacker
piefed.social
DeckPacker@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-04-05 |
If FOSS is a concern you could look into NetBird. They also have a hosted alternative but as far as I know the entire stack is FOSS. It’d still be a matter of trusting a private company though.
Actually, they seem to have a tls-passtough mode, which would allow me to handle encryption myself |
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CedricWhaley
lemmy.dbzer0.com
CedricWhaley@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-09-13 |
You can still get a free account with Oracle Cloud
I have that and it's hot garbage. |
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ScoobyDoo27
lemmy.world
ScoobyDoo27@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Move over to racknerd. I pay $17 a year for my VPS to host Pangolin and it works great. They even have cheaper options than that too. |
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yetAnotherUser
discuss.tchncs.de
yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2024-06-01 |
If FOSS is a concern you could look into NetBird. They also have a hosted alternative but as far as I know the entire stack is FOSS. It’d still be a matter of trusting a private company though.
Tbh I couldn't set up Netbird in a way that I'm happy with. I'd like to use it with an external Caddy and Authelia but the setup is so terribly documented and has various bugs I have given up. |
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Rhonda Sandtits
lemmy.sdf.org
RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2024-05-03 |
lowendbox.com is where I go looking for good deals on VPSs. https://lowendbox.com/blog/1-vps-1-usd-vps-per-month/ |
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lemmyvore
feddit.nl
lemmyvore@feddit.nl Joined: 2023-06-15 |
That is a cool idea, but unfortunately, I don't know anyone, that would be willing to do this. One of my friends has a selfhosted server, but he doesn't want to pay for stuff like that. He uses everything through a VPN, so he has no running costs. I did just come up with a pretty good solution though. I looked into Netbird and they actually have tls-passthrough functionality, so I could just ru...
Yeah install a reverse proxy at home and reach it through a service like Netbird or Tailscale. No VPS needed. And it's probably a better idea to do it this way because a local reverse proxy would be 100% self-reliant. Hosting Pangolin on VPS would always make you dependent on the VPS. NPM (Nginx Proxy Manager) is an Nginx distribution with a friendly UI and it includes certbot so you can get/renew certs automatically and use You will need a DNS provider for that btw, DeSEC.io is free and committed to privacy. |
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Jul
piefed.blahaj.zone
irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-09-25 |
I don't like the idea of a third party doing MitM type intercepts. I want control over anything that sees my unencrypted data whether it's web services or chat services, etc. So for me the VPS is worth it. But I do also use my VPS for some other services that use apps or other APIs that don't allow for presenting the Pangolin/SSO login step, and aren't too risky to have a bit exposed rather than the responsiveness and battery cost of the separate VPN connection. One day I need to find a better way to handle those but for now it's fine. |
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Taasz/Woof
lemmy.blahaj.zone
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-06-19 |
I think it's worth it, but you could move to one of the VPS deals on racknerd (or another lowendbox.com deal), for like $10-20 a year and save a bunch. |
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