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SubArcticTundra
lemmy.ml
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-03 |
This alone should explain why history is full of catastrophes. |
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lokalhorst
feddit.org
lokalhorst@feddit.org Joined: 2026-04-25 |
But not all outcomes are equally likely. The probabilities is what matter in the end. |
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SubArcticTundra
lemmy.ml
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-03 |
But not all outcomes are equally likely. The probabilities is what matter in the end.
That's true. I suppose we build our environments and systems to alter those probabilities |
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TheReanuKeeves
lemmy.world
TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Tangled Cord Theory |
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susieq0044
sh.itjust.works
susieq0044@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-09-13 |
I’m stuck in the definition of what is right and wrong? |
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remon
ani.social
remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
You just discovered entropy! |
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TranquilTurbulence
lemmy.zip
TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zipJoined: 2024-05-19 |
But not all outcomes are equally likely. The probabilities is what matter in the end.
And not all failures are clearly absolute failures. It can be debatable. Some of them can also be beneficial in unexpected ways. See also: Discovery of penicillin |
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hungprocess
piefed.world
hungprocess@piefed.world Joined: 2026-04-23 |
That depends upon how narrow your definition of "right" is. Sort of reminds me of this parable. |
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Miller
lemmy.world
Miller@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-04-25 |
Things don't actually go wrong they just don't go right. |
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JayleneSlide
lemmy.world
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-04 |
Well, that's just plain statistics of entropy: if there are two possible outcomes, there is a 95% chance of it being the wrong outcome. :D Throw in some Sturgeon's Law (90% of everything is shit), and we are all running to stand still. |
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Cheese_man
lemmy.world
Cheese_man@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-07 |
This is why I hate linear planning. Pick an end goal and devise a process for approaching said goal. Correct the process as needed along the way. Doesn't fit in a gant chart, though, so my boss never listens. |
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masterspace
lemmy.ca
masterspace@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-22 |
This is a legitimate way to analyze things, and you're effectively analyzing the relative entropy of outcomes. This is why for instance, strings will naturally tangle when exposed to random movement. There is a only a single configuration that is untangled and infinite tangled configurations, so given enough random energy will always tend towards a tangled outcome. |
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Today
lemmy.world
Today@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Entropy, like dropping a box of spoons. But in your life you can just shift your view of what's right and wrong. People act like there's one right path - go to school, get a job, get married, have kids,... There are a billion right paths and you can choose any of them. And if you choose not to decide... |
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yermaw
sh.itjust.works
yermaw@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-07-10 |
This is a legitimate way to analyze things, and you're effectively analyzing the relative entropy of outcomes. This is why for instance, strings will naturally tangle when exposed to random movement. There is a only a single configuration that is untangled and infinite tangled configurations, so given enough random energy will always tend towards a tangled outcome.
What about the N64 controllers when you and your buddies have been playing, correctly ordered p1-p4 to avoid tangles, and get called down to dinner. You come back and its just knots. Quantum fairies or some shit idk |
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masterspace
lemmy.ca
masterspace@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-22 |
What about the N64 controllers when you and your buddies have been playing, correctly ordered p1-p4 to avoid tangles, and get called down to dinner. You come back and its just knots. Quantum fairies or some shit idk
That's a little tiny Kirby in a captain falcon outfit that squeezes out of the rumble pack slot when you're not looking, just to fuck up your shit. |
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Pat_Riot
lemmy.today
Pat_Riot@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-09-29 |
Entropy, like dropping a box of spoons. But in your life you can just shift your view of what's right and wrong. People act like there's one right path - go to school, get a job, get married, have kids,... There are a billion right paths and you can choose any of them. And if you choose not to decide...
You still have made a choice 🎶🎵 |
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cRazi_man
europe.pub
cRazi_man@europe.pubJoined: 2025-06-04 |
"for success to occur in a complex endeavor, all key factors must be present and work correctly. The endeavor does not succeed when even one essential element is missing, meaning there are many different ways to fail" |
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Default Username
lemmy.dbzer0.com
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-12 |
What about the N64 controllers when you and your buddies have been playing, correctly ordered p1-p4 to avoid tangles, and get called down to dinner. You come back and its just knots. Quantum fairies or some shit idk
I can't say I've ever had that happen playing either 4 player N64 or Gamecube, and I've played a lot of both. |
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GreyEyedGhost
piefed.ca
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-11-30 |
This is why I hate linear planning. Pick an end goal and devise a process for approaching said goal. Correct the process as needed along the way. Doesn't fit in a gant chart, though, so my boss never listens.
Business, especially big business, hates the idea of adaptive strategy. There is no guarantee you will achieve the goal, and no clear cost to do so. Small businesses, or businesses willing to take risks, will factor that in and sometimes get ahead because of it. |
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GreyEyedGhost
piefed.ca
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-11-30 |
The more general statement is it's harder to build something than it is to destroy it. There are limited paths that will reach a given goal, but nearly unlimited paths to undo that accomplishment. |
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AnarchoEngineer
lemmy.dbzer0.com
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-04 |
This is called Entropy The specific type of entropy you’re describing is called “Social Entropy” but in all cases entropy is simply the fact that there are (usually) more disordered states for a system to be in than ordered ones. So if a system can undergo any sort of change, it is just generally more likely to become less-ordered than more-ordered. |
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medem
lemmy.wtf
medem@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2025-05-20 |
A corollary to this thought is the so-called [persistent] "attacker's advantage": attackers need to do stuff just right only once to be successful, while the defender must do always, everything right to be successful at defending. |
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Malica
lemmy.zip
Malica@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-27 |
Almost every mistake in history can be traced back to somebody abandoning reality in favor of their own. |
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Apytele
sh.itjust.works
Apytele@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
"Society is doomed for one very simple reason: it takes dozens of men working months with millions of dollars in material to build a building, but only one dumb-ass with a bomb to bring it down." – Jason Pargin, John Dies at the End |
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TheReanuKeeves
lemmy.world
TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-30 |
That's true. I suppose we build our environments and systems to alter those probabilities
We chose to accelerate climate change, pollute water sources, and take our anger out on each other as a human race, all at the same time |
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SubArcticTundra
lemmy.ml
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-03 |
Almost every mistake in history can be traced back to somebody abandoning reality in favor of their own.
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gandalf_der_13te
feddit.org
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.orgJoined: 2026-08-01 |
interestingly, almost all mutations are bad, but the fact that mutations exist is still the reason why life exists at all. you could say that life developed through a series of what should have been mistakes, statistically speaking. |
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gandalf_der_13te
feddit.org
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.orgJoined: 2026-08-01 |
"Society is doomed for one very simple reason: it takes dozens of men working months with millions of dollars in material to build a building, but only one dumb-ass with a bomb to bring it down." – Jason Pargin, John Dies at the End
that and the fact that the world exists regardless continue to astonish me |
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gandalf_der_13te
feddit.org
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.orgJoined: 2026-08-01 |
A corollary to this thought is the so-called [persistent] "attacker's advantage": attackers need to do stuff just right only once to be successful, while the defender must do always, everything right to be successful at defending.
not if the defender fights back. |
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gandalf_der_13te
feddit.org
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.orgJoined: 2026-08-01 |
This is a legitimate way to analyze things, and you're effectively analyzing the relative entropy of outcomes. This is why for instance, strings will naturally tangle when exposed to random movement. There is a only a single configuration that is untangled and infinite tangled configurations, so given enough random energy will always tend towards a tangled outcome.
uhh i think that if the string is electrically charged, then the most straight-line, untangled state is the one with lowest potential energy, so that's what the string will develop into, in the long term. |
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gandalf_der_13te
feddit.org
gandalf_der_13te@feddit.orgJoined: 2026-08-01 |
Business, especially big business, hates the idea of adaptive strategy. There is no guarantee you will achieve the goal, and no clear cost to do so. Small businesses, or businesses willing to take risks, will factor that in and sometimes get ahead because of it.
the thing is also that like 99% of small businesses that play risk like that fail. since the business is small, the cost of that is low. if the business is big, the cost of failing would be much higher. |
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fullsquare
awful.systems
fullsquare@awful.systemsJoined: 2025-03-31 |
That's why learning on mistakes is a thing |
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