I am a big movie fan and watch a lot of movies from all different periods and the amount of nudity in mainstream R rated movies has fallen to almost 0. In the 70's, 80's and 90's nudity in mainstream movies was pretty common. I can't even think of the last big movie that had nudity in it. Something clearly shifted but I am not sure what.

Your mom

not people. the system is getting more prudish.

Hmmmm yeah! Yeah, agreed

And also,
Even the fascists that allegedly aren't pedophiles or other forms of rapist are all, every single one of them, enablers of rape in general and pedophilia specifically.

yeah definitely not the people. its the loudest complaints that set the rules. i think its more like insufferable people are ruining it for everyone else.

We don't need every instance to be a porn site tbh. Lemmy nsfw exists doesn't it? You are welcome to make another one but its also fairly reasonable to understand some don't really want to bother moderating a porn site.

I think they are ashamed of their own urges and want to hold others to their standard. Ultimately it's about control.

It’s driven by advertising money. YouTube people self-censor their speech out of fear of being demonetized.

The problems you're talking about in the OP are purely monetary. Advertisers don't want it so media/content can't do it and survive.

The upcoming generation are behaving less unruly these days I think for 2 reasons :

• Everything is being recorded and shared all the time. You fart in an elevator and you might go viral. God only knows the fear you'd experience waking up hungover after a party in this world.

-Regular rebellion against the previous generation. We had eminem, limp bizkit, rage against the machine, Bart Simpson, an entire barrage of "fuck authority" as a culture. Only real way to rebel against that is "fuck yeah, authority".

I think there are two trends. 1) in the early 90s people still got their porn fix from magazine stashes hidden in the woods. Or so the legend goes. So a sex scene or just some boobs were a welcomed element in a movie. In the 70s it was quite common to have absolutely gratuitous female nudity in movies that didn't need it. Fast forward to the new millennium and you can get any porn you like on your phone in 15 seconds. People don't go mad if there isn't a sex scene in it any more. Sensibilities have changed; also in regards to what actors -however well paid- have to go through. Also, US movies have always been more tolerant of violence than sex.

1. Movie financing has shifted more to China and they are even more prudish than the Americans as far as movie censorship is concerned. If you want your movie to get a license to play over there, don't make the Chinese the bad guys, don't kill any Chinese people in the movie, and switch to footage of a train going into a tunnel when it gets hot and steamy.

As a child from the seventies. YES.

There are several issues here.

The lemmy instance thing is because people don't like being spammed by onlyfans ads, torrents of AI generated porn spam, deluges of random penises men are happy to post assuming lots of people want to see it, and in some cases operators have ethical objections to porn production itself, or don't want to deal with the possibility of rehosting and being responsible for content containing minors being hosted on their services and the legal headaches that entails.

The last one about legal problems has arisen due to increased awareness yes but also increased pressure. The amount of hosting companies out there who look the other way for violations are fewer and fewer by year out of their own fears from payment companies, technical partners, etc. Even accidentally hosting that stuff besides the risk of getting you raided by cops at 2am and having your whole life gone through (while automatic weapons are being pointed at your face) could lead to your hosting being terminated and having to pay more and more each time that happens as you move up from the cheapest hosts to the ones left. It's also a hassle to move.

Censoring tarot cards, swear words in memes and on TV that's an example of corporate prudishness. That's an example of fear of upsetting advertisers, of people self-censoring to go viral, to avoid Zuckerbook removing their post and actioning their account because Zuckerbook has this weird notion of being family friendly and appealing to advertisers. So much of that lays at the feet of advertisers and Christian pressure groups who exist to beat the drums of fear of losing advertisers and pressuring those same advertisers to pressure the tech companies.

It's about risk compliance for those tech companies as well. Your bank would rather close all your accounts and refuse to do business with you ever again if you have less than several million dollars with them if you bring too many automated red flags. They won't care you have half a million with them, they won't care you protest your innocence, even the chance the system is right in flagging you a risk and getting hit by authorities leads them to a behavior similar to self-censoring where they self-police overly aggressively out of fear because you're just not worth the trouble and risk.

In the same way these companies don't care about artistic expression, they don't care about freedom of speech, they care about maximizing profits and that means minimizing compliance risks, minimizing risks of being legally actioned because there's even a chance what you shared could turn out to lead to legal liability, and minimizing risks of upsetting overly sensitive prudish customers and advertisers.

So at it's core its driven by a capitalist drive to avoid government scrutiny, fines, interventions, and by that same desire to offend the least amount of people and not upset advertisers by placing their ad for a new burger next to erotica art or bared human body parts or naughty words.

Most of those things cost money, and the younger generations are poorer than they have been in the past

Have you completely forgotten the war on drugs? We never stopped letting the Puritans run things in this country.

I'm not dictating terms. I'm asking a question.

I unbelieve it!

No, you're telling people how they should communicate, because you're (ironically) getting offended that some people are self-censoring.. Hence the "Can people knock it off, please?". That sure sounds like an attack...

Just because a lot of us swear, doesn't mean we feel we have to write swear words everywhere where kids might be reading it.

And, what annoys me, is that, if you weren't the one who told me off long ago about this, then there is more than 1 person here who are basically trying belittle people who don't communicate in a way that they approve..

In another one of your posts, you're also attacking younger people who follow rules...

It's not even that. People get reported for posting porn if it's The Birth of Venus or David, whether YT, Mta, R**it, and the far right parent groups' members that are having books pulled off library shelves.

Guy Debord when he said:

"We've gone from a society of being, to knowing, to appearing to be".

Damn. Almost a century later and a century worse.

i also appreciate not having sex shoehorned into everything i watch or read.

And swearing. I swear, but not gratuitously.

This is organized purity insanity. Well funded.

I've been thinking it's a combination of the opinion solidifying nature of social media, going through the "me too" movement, and exposure to a US administration completely bereft of morality, ethics, or intelligence that highlights the worst of our society. At least for younger people. Gen Z is the worst about things like requiring permission just to touch someone or getting bent out of shape if someone says the wrong thing. It's got to be this environment that created this reaction.

My guess is people are tired of it. When you go through life and pretty much everything is sexualized, it starts to get boring and annoying. I hate how most movies used to have a romance or sex scene. Just imply it, is it really necessary to completely ruin the mood of a movie for it? We know people have sex and it doesn't really contribute to the story.

I noticed this too. Looking back on how things were in the'80s and '90s. Seems like a lot of those things are not OK today. Seems weird in a society that so routinely treats people like trash. You can kill them but you damn well better say on YouTube that you "unalived them." Stupid.

It's forced on us by rich Christians

It's a trend I've seen on Reddit and laterly here. I wondered if it was a north American thing? A slightly preachy, straight laced approach to life that feels kinda of smug, judgmental and insular.

If that "fake artistic character" is a minor, that's CSAM in some jurisdictions, and that leaves the instance admin legally on the hook for a whole range of offenses which are punishable by incarceration, huge fines, and/or life on a sex offenders register, and in some places, chemical castration.

So yeah, not near as fucking innocent as you make it out to be.

To be clear, OP didn't say "porn" on Lemmy, they said "adult art". There are contexts in which nudity is not pornographic, but I assume it's easier to just ban it all and not take any risks, than to judge the artistic merit of each upload before deciding whether it's too over the top.

The inverse problem exists for creators on yt who make animations that are not kid friendly. Google's bots love to tag them as for children, and thus demonitize them.

I didn't make it out to be anything, I asked a question.
And what idiot country would not just give a warning and say remove the drawing if someone was offended?
I doubt they would use all these draconian punishments as if they didn't see any difference with someone raping a baby and putting it online.

Plenty of instances do allow nsfw content as well though. The important thing is its up to the person running it what they want to bother with moderating and the kind of communities to encourage.

I doubt you would see GasGuzzlersRollingCoal to be particularly welcome in slrpnk.net for example.

It's not people, it's corporations. And it's more US specifically rather than global

Heads up: Your self-censoring instead did some unintended formatting (everything between two asterisks/stars formats to italics, between two double-asteriks it formats to bold)

Because CSAM isn't something you should be giving 'warnings' about.

If you're drawing something that could be construed as CSAM then you need to have a word with yourself but we're all adult enough to know that some people just like testing where the line is, or knitting where it is and remaining just shy of it then feign ignorance.

I'm watching the Magicians, on Amazon, and I use subtitles. All the curse words are purposefully filled in with random letters, so as not to offend the reader.

IANAL, but in my opinion this violates the "functionally equivalent services" test of the Americans with Disabilities Act Title IV, and in a just world they would get hit with a massive lawsuit.

Yet the violence we see on our screens (real and fictional) is non stop. I grew up watching 70's and 80's broadcast television. Rarely did anyone swear or say God damn. Nude images were rare. Things change then change again

Nothing forces you to use Google or even read the AI summary. You could have skipped past and read the links to form an opinion yourself, but instead you consciously chose to regurgitate what it said.

Absolutely. Deaf people deserve to read the actual script. If only laws mattered in the US.

The same should apply for violence. Just implied it...

The oligarchs are using porn, and specifically child abuse, to get total control of everything said and done, to create secret social scores to be used against us.

I have fucking seen mouths blurred to stop lip readers understanding even slightly impolite words!

I hate it so much.

That’s not true. The big group responsible for this is Australian and that’s where they started. Why do you people blame America for everything?

It’s not about advertising.

Yeah... Uh, what kind of freak would have their feed like that?

STOP VOTING FOR REPUBLICANS. For fucks sake!

Fucking is free…

Because it's the US corporations that implement this shit

Very much so.

I am Danish. A lot of our culture and humor used to revolve around the naked body and sex. This has totally changed within the last 20 years.

My personal theory is that social media censorship of anything sexual is the reason. America exported their prudish culture and it is erasing our culture.

It's really all our faults. The first time someone used the phrase "horny jail" unironically and wasn't slapped into the following week, we invited this. The first time someone complained about a sex scene in a movie and wasn't shunned from their entire social circle and relegated to hanging out with the Boomer ladies at the local church, we began building the world we're trapped in.

And the people in here defending this new secular Puritan paradigm all sound fucking insufferable. It doesn't matter if you're an upright prude because your gullible enough to think sex makes God angry or if you're an upright prude because you think it's a feminist position. Either way you're still a jackass who's clinging to a sexual morality invented by bronze age goat herders to maximize the prices they could get for selling their teenage daughters to their middle aged friends.

What the fuck where