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new_otters_raft
piefed.ca
new_otters_raft@piefed.caJoined: 2026-02-15 |
From the newsletter:
Potential usage info from the website link - https://tailscale.com/tailcat:
A technical explanation from the github:
License: |
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BrianTheeBiscuiteer
lemmy.world
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
ELI5? I barely understood original Tailscale. |
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N0x0n
lemmy.ml
N0x0n@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-12-28 |
ELI5? I barely understood original Tailscale.
Scales are rough... Cats are fluffy and smooth :D ! Never mind me, wait for a better ELI :D |
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olof
lemmy.ml
olof@lemmy.ml Joined: 2020-06-28 |
ELI5? I barely understood original Tailscale.
Easy VPN is how I see it. Like zero config, very smooth and pretty slick |
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Bob Robertson IX
discuss.tchncs.de
Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-13 |
ELI5? I barely understood original Tailscale.
Tailscale is a private treehouse. Tailcat is two tin cans tied together with a string. |
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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble
lemmy.dbzer0.com
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-03-20 |
ELI5? I barely understood original Tailscale.
With normal Tailscale they host the management end of things, you host the servers, their system negotiates directly connecting them together. I think this lets you host that management connection yourself. But I'm kinda confused just wtf is going on. |
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hamsamrich
lemmy.world
hamsamrich@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-08-18 |
Tailscale is a private treehouse. Everyone gets an official member badge, has their name on the roster, and can walk in anytime to hang out, share toys, and see everone else in the club. Tailcat is two tin cans tied together with a string. There is no club, no badges, and no rules. You give one can to someone, whisper a secret through the string, and as soon as you hang up, it’s gone.
Excellent I am five years old and I completely understand this analogy |
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eleijeep
piefed.social
eleijeep@piefed.social Joined: 2025-09-22 |
Tailscale is a private treehouse. Everyone gets an official member badge, has their name on the roster, and can walk in anytime to hang out, share toys, and see everone else in the club. Tailcat is two tin cans tied together with a string. There is no club, no badges, and no rules. You give one can to someone, whisper a secret through the string, and as soon as you hang up, it’s gone.
Are girls allowed? |
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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble
lemmy.dbzer0.com
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-03-20 |
Are girls allowed?
Only if you invite them. But be warned, they have cooties. |
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FauxLiving
lemmy.world
FauxLiving@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-10 |
Are girls allowed?
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apftwb
lemmy.world
apftwb@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-06-22 |
So... Wireguard? |
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ChocolateFrostedSugarBombs
lemmy.world
ChocolateFrostedSugarBombs@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-03-19 |
So... Wireguard?
It sounds more like netcat maybe? Less server client architecture more peer to peer? |
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krolden
lemmy.ml
krolden@lemmy.mlJoined: 2020-06-30 |
With normal Tailscale they host the management end of things, you host the servers, their system negotiates directly connecting them together. I think this lets you host that management connection yourself. But I'm kinda confused just wtf is going on.
There is no management connection. It's just managed locally but has their UDP hole punching feature |
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Zombie
feddit.uk
Zombie@feddit.uk Joined: 2024-06-01 |
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_hovi_
lemmy.world
_hovi_@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-25 |
It sounds more like netcat maybe? Less server client architecture more peer to peer?
Yeah seems more like nectat. From the name I would guess that's the intent. My first reaction was that it's similar to dumbpipe (which is also inspired by netcat). Variety is good I guess. |
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lukalix98
programming.dev
lukalix98@programming.dev Joined: 2025-05-09 |
Tailscale is a private treehouse. Everyone gets an official member badge, has their name on the roster, and can walk in anytime to hang out, share toys, and see everone else in the club. Tailcat is two tin cans tied together with a string. There is no club, no badges, and no rules. You give one can to someone, whisper a secret through the string, and as soon as you hang up, it’s gone.
Soooo, netbird? |
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zarathustrad
lemmy.world
zarathustrad@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-04 |
Soooo, netbird?
Not quite: Netbird is a treehouse you build and maintain yourself. You're the club leader: you set the rules, issue the badges, keep the roster, and decide who gets in. No one runs it for you. You have to build it, keep it up, and handle the maintenance. It's still a real club with a real roster and persistent membership, just like Tailscale's treehouse, except you're the one who has to insure the roof doesn't leak. |
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gnuplusmatt
reddthat.com
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-10-28 |
With normal Tailscale they host the management end of things, you host the servers, their system negotiates directly connecting them together. I think this lets you host that management connection yourself. But I'm kinda confused just wtf is going on.
No, but if you wanted to do that, headscale is the answer |
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Leigh Weigh
lemmy.world
LeighWeighTacoma@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-08 |
Tailcat is a remix of Tailscale open source pieces to act like netcat, but over Tailscale's data plane, without Tailscale's control plane. Tailscale's data plane (magicsock, internally) gives you point-to-point WireGuard®-encrypted tunnels between two machines with DERP as the NAT-hole-punching communication side channel and the ultimate relay-of-last-resort if NAT traversal fails. Instead of u...
This GIF reminds me that I kept saying "who loves orange soda? Kel loves orange soda!" Do my significant other. |
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Swedneck
discuss.tchncs.de
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-10 |
"like netcat" huh, i wonder what netcat is.. "netcat (often abbreviated to nc) is a computer networking utility for reading from and writing to network connections using TCP or UDP. The command is designed to be a dependable back-end that can be used directly or easily driven by other programs and scripts. At the same time, it is a feature-rich network debugging and investigation tool, since it can produce almost any kind of connection its user could need and has a number of built-in capabilities." |
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Swedneck
discuss.tchncs.de
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Okay so i think this section is one of the most useful ones for a normal user: Send and receive filesTo receive files, run a drop box and share the printed tailcat address:
The sender then runs:
To offer files instead, serve a directory read-only (the default) or
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Swedneck
discuss.tchncs.de
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Okay so i think this section is one of the most useful ones for a normal user: Send and receive files To receive files, run a drop box and share the printed tailcat address: $ tailcat recv ~/inbox # 🐈 Server listening with new address: tcXXXXXXXXX The sender then runs: $ tailcat cp report.pdf tcXXXXXXXXX: tailcat cp runs the system scp with the connection routed through tailcat, so you get its ...
And this can presumably hopefully finally fucking condemn hamachi to the grave, maybe? Forward local ports to a tailcat serverTo make ports served by a tailcat server available as ordinary local TCP ports (for browsers, database clients, or other tools that do not support SOCKS or stdio), run
A local port of 0 asks the operating system for a free port; each listener prints its address once it's listening. To forward local ports to assets on the network reachable by an exit-node server, run the server in exit-node mode and specify each remote IP address and port in the mapping:
This forwards By default, listeners bind to
Press Ctrl-C to stop forwarding. |
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BrianTheeBiscuiteer
lemmy.world
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
Tailscale is a private treehouse. Everyone gets an official member badge, has their name on the roster, and can walk in anytime to hang out, share toys, and see everone else in the club. Tailcat is two tin cans tied together with a string. There is no club, no badges, and no rules. You give one can to someone, whisper a secret through the string, and as soon as you hang up, it’s gone.
So they made wireguard? |
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Defectus
lemmy.world
Defectus@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
So they made wireguard?
But isnt tailscale built on wireguard? |
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dai
lemmy.world
dai@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
I think this lets you host that management connection yourself. No, but if you wanted to do that, headscale is the answer
Headscale any easier to config nowadays? I'd tried running it ages ago, but I was very new to Linux, and nixos as a whole. Eventually gave up and just ran tailscale for ease of use. |
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gnuplusmatt
reddthat.com
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-10-28 |
Headscale any easier to config nowadays? I'd tried running it ages ago, but I was very new to Linux, and nixos as a whole. Eventually gave up and just ran tailscale for ease of use.
I followed the compose file in the docs with podman and it was fine, configured headplane as the management gui inside the same compose. I then later converted the compose to a quadlet and it continues to be fine. I leave it alone, it leaves me alone |
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dai
lemmy.world
dai@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
I followed the compose file in the docs with podman and it was fine, configured headplane as the management gui inside the same compose. I then later converted the compose to a quadlet and it continues to be fine. I leave it alone, it leaves me alone
Nice, thanks for the info. I'll give it another go hopefully on my one day off over this long weekend 😅 Having less reliance on major tech providers is something I'm slowly moving towards, probably like lots of us here. |
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