Link to the survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe3ClP3sHiEQZmwwPMiJ3OzUO586yInWIME076unOdV9kG5-Q/viewform

I was invited to partake upon opening the software. I thought Lemmy might get a kick out of this.

Isn't Audacity FOSS? I might be assuming 100% here...

Yes, GPLv3.

And there is already a fork called Tenacity after the controversy around telemetry back in 2021. I could imagine they would also be unlikely to implement any changes involving AI

I can't believe they have the audacity to do this. The audacity!

I don't see the problem. There are many ways that it could be useful, particularly with editing files.

Yeah but it was bought by a shitty company a while back that immediately added telemetry to it.

We need to boost the signal on Tenacity over Audacity in all the various spaces.

That survey sounds more like they're thinking about asking an MCP API to it. That is, an AI assistant could be connected to send calls to perform tasks through Audacity without needing OpenClaw-like full computer access.

One use case I can imagine is, an indie game developer has a recording they want to use but it's noisy and they're bad at sound editing so they ask an AI to do something about it. The AI sees an exposed Audacity MCP server and goes to town.

I guess it could work?

I heard about Tenacity, but while it says it supports macOS, it doesn't actually run. If they get that sorted, I'll switch us. My wife uses Audacity more than I do, and she hates AI.

I don't mind AI for some things, but it has no place in the arts.

My only problem with Tenacity is that it's outdated and doesn't have the new effects (compressor and limiter) that I use regularly.

It’s an art thing. No machines generating in place of humans a key ethic.

gasp!

The audacity....

Couldn't help myself, apologies

Ding!

Automating menial labor can still be good. Doesn't mean you will be more productive though since menial labor can give you breaks and time to think and familiarize. But we shouldn't put menial labor on a pedestal or make it morally desirable.

Introducing Audacity Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum tiers!

I've been using Tenacity for a while now. Audacity has become problematic. But honestly, I don't do too much audio editing. Just some clipping and noise removal.

Same here. If they add an MCP interface, that could potentiallly enable interoperability with whatever the hell you want. Maybe a web interface or a CLI.

Edit: to be clear, you can speak MCP without being an LLM. I think MCP integrations are one of the best things to come out of the LLM craze.

Seems like an indication they wanna know what the users want to do but it'd be nice to be able to say "yes" to the non generative uses only

I answered this question with Other: You should be ashamed for even asking this question.

I was just about to ask. Thank you so much.

Yeah, implementing an API to enable control over software functions for AI agents is not a big bad evil guy move.

"Hey Alexa please lower the volume of this file because I'm too retarded to use the basic functions of this app"

Whats next? AI integration into MS paint because people are too stupid to draw a rectangle?

I abandoned the software after it got bought out and installed spyware years ago. There is a fork called Tenacity I use sometimes.

Could, yeah, but never should. Hope that hypothetical indie game developer gets banned from stores.

The company developing audacity have done similar surveys for other software. No matter the result, they always add some version of it. I love the main UX designer's philosophy, he hasto done miracles with other stale products. But the company is squarely pro-AI oriented.

I have bad news for you...

I could see that argument for using AI to generate content, but cleaning human-generated content? Once you go down that road you call into question a lot of common tools in creative software.

RogueAmoeba makes decent software for audio editing on Mac.

that depends.

One of the ideas of a market research survey like these is to check if there is market demand for a given addition to a product. It does not mean they want to add it, i means they want to add it if user want it added.

None of these are a definitive "No I don't use AI". What a shit survey

Seems like they are asking how loudly they should announce the addition of AI to their software. If the survey comes back positive they'll shout Audio Assistant Support from the rooftops, if nobody wants it they'll put it in anyway, but it will be a buried feature in the bottom of an obscure update note 'AAS added to collect data to enhance user workflow and customize UX'.

I'm not sure if I see the problem with this

Of course you use AI and you have been using it before the hype even started.

Because AI boosters convinced people that AI centrism is moderate AI usage, and you want to be a centrist, because both Nick Fuentes and Hasan Piker are bad (yes, this is the example they're using), and everyone needs to find the golden middle road, or else!

Yes, but FOSS project leaders are falling for genAI propaganda left and right, or at worst trying to chase OpenAI/Anthropic money.

I noticed that too. lol fuck them.