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Mesa man's death in police custody ruled homicide, medical examiner says
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Bean quokk.au Bean@quokk.au
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The Maricopa County Medical Examiner's Office has ruled the death of 52-year-old Eric Baker, who died after an April arrest by Mesa police, a homicide.

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StabbingSky lemmy.zip StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
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Friendly reminder that the designation of homicide is not itself a statement that a crime occurred. But it's a required step in establishing whether a crime has taken place.

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WhoIzDisIz lemmy.today WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
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Friendly reminder that the designation of homicide is not itself a statement that a crime occurred. But it's a required step in establishing whether a crime has taken place.

Please explain what a homicide actually is, if not a crime?

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shishka_b0b lemmy.zip shishka_b0b@lemmy.zip
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Please explain what a homicide actually is, if not a crime?

When one person kills another person.

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WhoIzDisIz lemmy.today WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.today
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When one person kills another person.

Okay, I see - so a homicide might not be a crime in self-defense cases? Is that what we're getting at? Are there other circumstances where it's also not considered a crime?

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moth anarchist.nexus moth@anarchist.nexus
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Okay, I see - so a homicide might not be a crime in self-defense cases? Is that what we're getting at? Are there other circumstances where it's also not considered a crime?

when it's a cop that did the killing, and that killing doesn't violate a constitutional right that isn't already “clearly established”. such a homicide would fall under qualified immunity.

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StabbingSky lemmy.zip StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
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Okay, I see - so a homicide might not be a crime in self-defense cases? Is that what we're getting at? Are there other circumstances where it's also not considered a crime?

Accidents would also be a homicide.

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