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Folding Phones Are the Worst Thing to Happen to Smartphones
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TargaryenTKE lemmy.world TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-22
#52 · Quote Reply

I wouldn’t say it’s a gimmick, but I agree with being too expensive for what it is. I do a lot of reading (books, articles, manga, etc) and I love the idea of regardless of where I am, I can double the size of my screen and get some reading done. Also, Bloons td 6, I think this game benefits from a bigger screen. Alas, I already have an e-ink tablet and my phone is too recent, so I could never ...

I've sunk many hours of playing the OG Rollercoaster Tycoon and OpenTTD on my foldable screen; perfectly optimized. I don't think I would have even 5% of that time on a rectangular phone

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Doomsider lemmy.world Doomsider@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#53 · Quote Reply

Less durable is not the same as fragile. All smartphones today are way more durable than any smartphone from 10 years ago. It’s a tradeoff of a little less durability for a bigger screen when you want one.

Maybe from 10 years ago, but not twenty!

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TargaryenTKE lemmy.world TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-22
#54 · Quote Reply

Two bricks held together with a hinge is weaker than just a brick... Who would have thought...

True, but if both bricks and the hinge are made of tungsten, it's not going to matter that much anyway if you're just dropping it onto a wood floor. Like, what you said isn't wrong, but you're insinuating that the creators weren't aware of that fact when they made the thing

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Uncle_Ben fedinsfw.app Uncle_Ben@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-04-27
#55 · Quote Reply

Aren't there plenty of those? They're just not flagship models.

I invite you to actually check, there's actually nothing modern below 6 inches, except those gimmicky 3" screen phones you can find on temu and such

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Jakeroxs sh.itjust.works Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#56 · Quote Reply

Not on fold 7 & 8. The stylus doesn’t work on either display.

Damn no shit, what a weird step back for no reason.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-19
#57 · Quote Reply

Nah. The worst possible thing they could be is the second worst thing.

The worst thing to happen to smarohones was when Androids stopped coming with slide-out physical keyboards.

Fuck Apple for many reasons, but the onscreen keyboard is the most egregious and unforgivable of those reasons.

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Slashme lemmy.world Slashme@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-24
#58 · Quote Reply

Bootloader unlocking being removed more is the worst thing to happen to smartphones

OK, I'll agree to second place for AI then. That puts folding phones into third place at worst.

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HaveMouseWillTravel lemmy.world HaveMouseWillTravel@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#59 · Quote Reply

The worst thing to happen was the huge 6' screen. I just want a small phone with doesn't rip my jean's pockets and easy to handle with one hand.

Your 6' phone would look enormous next to an 18" replica of stonehenge

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boonhet lemmy.zip boonhet@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-12
#60 · Quote Reply

Nah. The worst possible thing they could be is the second worst thing. The worst thing to happen to smarohones was when Androids stopped coming with slide-out physical keyboards. Fuck Apple for many reasons, but the onscreen keyboard is the most egregious and unforgivable of those reasons.

Just use an usb-c keyboard, you can use a much bigger one than would ever fit in a phone. Those tiny ones where a thumb covers 5 keys at a time weren't that great, SwiftKey is much faster

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NigelFrobisher aussie.zone NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-08-07
#61 · Quote Reply

Nah. The worst possible thing they could be is the second worst thing. The worst thing to happen to smarohones was when Androids stopped coming with slide-out physical keyboards. Fuck Apple for many reasons, but the onscreen keyboard is the most egregious and unforgivable of those reasons.

It was ok until predictive text and swiping went completely to sit (for example).

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I_Has_A_Hat lemmy.world I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-24
#62 · Quote Reply

Just use an usb-c keyboard, you can use a much bigger one than would ever fit in a phone. Those tiny ones where a thumb covers 5 keys at a time weren't that great, SwiftKey is much faster

Great, another thing to carry in my pocket

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0x0 infosec.pub 0x0@infosec.pub
Joined: 2024-05-20
#63 · Quote Reply

How do you even make a protective case for these? Seems like it's too easy to drop it and crack the screen

Believe it or not but my zflip 5 is the longest survivor out of my devicez so far

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mapleseedfall lemmy.world mapleseedfall@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-23
#64 · Quote Reply

Great, another thing to carry in my pocket

Everything has a drawback. built in keyboard was a nightmare to fix.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-19
#65 · Quote Reply

Just use an usb-c keyboard, you can use a much bigger one than would ever fit in a phone. Those tiny ones where a thumb covers 5 keys at a time weren't that great, SwiftKey is much faster

No. It should be integrated into the phone, impossible to leave somewhere and incapable of having connection issues.

The fact that most smartphone users are illiterate and would rather watch a video and send voice notes than actually write anything worth reading isn't an excuse to make the phone useless to anyone capable of forming complete sentences.

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DudleyMason lemmy.ml DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-19
#66 · Quote Reply

It was ok until predictive text and swiping went completely to sit (for example).

It was never ok. It was tolerable, but I resented losing the keyboard before I got to.the second generation of phones that didn't have one.

I'd happily pay the absolutely stupid prices they want to charge for the stupid foldy phones to get something with modern flagship specs and the form factor of the G1.

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Cris_Citrus (he/him <3) piefed.zip Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip
Joined: 2026-02-26
#67 · Quote Reply

I'm familiar with both. I think it's possible to run LineageOS on some unihertz but the support is not solid enough for me to risk it. Clicks is fairly new, I think they open source some stuff but it's not supported by anything deGoogled yet.

Oops, I think I meant to reply to the same person you were replying to

I do think I saw clicks say they were talking to a custom ROM project, but I'm not positive I'm remembering that right

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mojofrododojo lemmy.world mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-25
#68 · Quote Reply

True. Folding phones are stupid, almost noone will buy them and they will eventually stop producing them. But not so for LLMS, they don't function through basic market mechanisms, since they exist through the AI circlejerk bubble. They will keep pushing LLMs, incorporating it into more and more until the entire UI of the phone is just one LLM which you have to interact with to make it do anything.

the only people I see with foldables are people who buy their phones from their carriers on payment plans.

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diaphragmwp discuss.tchncs.de diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-06-03
#69 · (edited) Quote Reply

I really like the idea of a tri-fold phone running Nura that can revert to a tablet or desktop. It's one device for multiple form factors, for different use cases.

9000 dolla dolla. Insert cash or select payment type.

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boonhet lemmy.zip boonhet@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-12
#70 · (edited) Quote Reply

No. It should be integrated into the phone, impossible to leave somewhere and incapable of having connection issues. The fact that most smartphone users are illiterate and would rather watch a video and send voice notes than actually write anything worth reading isn't an excuse to make the phone useless to anyone capable of forming complete sentences.

Why would you want a bigger phone with less battery life for the 5 times a decade you need to write a novel? I can get up to about 50 wpm on a smartphone. Past that, it has to be a full-size keyboard. The slide-out ones aren't any better than an on-screen one.

If you can't use one, or haven't configured it to fit your style, that's a skill issue.

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likebudda reddthat.com likebudda@reddthat.com
Joined: 2026-08-20
#71 · Quote Reply

I got an "open box" OG Pixel Fold for $350 last November. Everything else new or refurb in the price range was just another rectangular slab. I like the squarish aspect ratio for chess and reading but 16:9 video comes with black bars coving 1/3 of the screen. I dislike the taller foldables that came after and I assume it'll be much more than 2 years before the new passport shaped foldables are available as refurbs for less than $500 so if/when this one conks out I'll be back to using a slab phone as a hotspot for an ipad mini.

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filcuk feddit.uk filcuk@feddit.uk
Joined: 2026-06-23
#72 · Quote Reply

Still literally zero good reason for them to exist

As a foldable owner: you are wrong. You may not care for it, I respect that much.

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Ickyboo lemmy.world Ickyboo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-26
#73 · Quote Reply

the only people I see with foldables are people who buy their phones from their carriers on payment plans.

The trick is to buy last year's foldable for around 1/3 used.

I got my fold 7 a month before 8 was announced for 1/3 of the price of a new 8 Ultra , it's even running oneui 9 now. Not much has changed.

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Ickyboo lemmy.world Ickyboo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-26
#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

I used to be a fold hater until I got one..now I've had 3 folds and never going back to a boring slab phone AND a mini tablet , my fold 7 is a all in one that fits in my pocket and weighs the same as a mini tablet minus the extra phone. My gf got my old fold and now lives off it as she runs 3 apps at once on it. Before she lugged around a s23ultra and and 13inch tablet.

The secret is to buy last year's model used at 1/3 the price of new and the haters are people who never actually used one especially for multi tasking multi windows which is why they don't understand them. I was one til I did.

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LwL lemmy.world LwL@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-07
#75 · Quote Reply

No. It should be integrated into the phone, impossible to leave somewhere and incapable of having connection issues. The fact that most smartphone users are illiterate and would rather watch a video and send voice notes than actually write anything worth reading isn't an excuse to make the phone useless to anyone capable of forming complete sentences.

I find those tiny keyboards much harder to use than my onscreen kb. I still get like 60 wpm without swipe or autocorrect or anything which is easily sufficient. Sure it's not nearly as fast as a PC kb but I can't imagine I'd be faster on a tiny physical one.

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7rokhym lemmy.ca 7rokhym@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-26
#76 · Quote Reply

I love mine, had a folding for for 5 years now. Currently using a Razr. They work great, display works for about 2-3 years is my experience. It's usually cheaper to buy a new one than repair as the display assembly is a new chassis with the hinge.
I don't use a case, the display is protected by closing it, but Motorola included one and they include the protective screen cover (mandatory). As flexible display technology improves, I expect they will last longer.

A whole group of folding phone haters has emerged, normal people just don't buy the thing they don't want. Theses people go on crusades blathering on about their opinion, of which I couldn't care less about. They seem to be triggered by the area where the display bends ( I don't notice it) but it is there and I can feel it, how fragile the device is but I see people with broken displays on regular phones all the time, and the price ( they can't afford one? ). I assume they just need a proper hobby.

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#77 · Quote Reply

The worst thing to happen was the huge 6' screen. I just want a small phone with doesn't rip my jean's pockets and easy to handle with one hand.

A six foot screen will always rip your jeans unless you are a T-Rex.

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SpacetimeMachine lemmy.world SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#78 · Quote Reply

I love mine, had a folding for for 5 years now. Currently using a Razr. They work great, display works for about 2-3 years is my experience. It's usually cheaper to buy a new one than repair as the display assembly is a new chassis with the hinge. I don't use a case, the display is protected by closing it, but Motorola included one and they include the protective screen cover (mandatory). As fl...

Seems insane to say "they work great" followed by "the screen lasts about 2-3 years." Seems insanely wasteful. I use my phones for at least 5 years now. To spend that much money on something that you're essentially forced to replace that often is so wasteful.

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Cornpop lemmy.world Cornpop@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#79 · (edited) Quote Reply

I love mine, had a folding for for 5 years now. Currently using a Razr. They work great, display works for about 2-3 years is my experience. It's usually cheaper to buy a new one than repair as the display assembly is a new chassis with the hinge. I don't use a case, the display is protected by closing it, but Motorola included one and they include the protective screen cover (mandatory). As fl...

No need to get past the 3rd sentence; it speaks for itself how dumb folding phones are. Screen just takes a shit after 3 years and it’s cheaper to replace than repair lol do you not hear yourself? What do you see as a gain for it? I don’t feel my iPhone 16 needs to fold up shorter and thicker, I don’t need a crease in my display, I don’t get scratches and I don’t need a screen protector. It’s a gimmick.

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-26
#80 · Quote Reply

Seems insane to say "they work great" followed by "the screen lasts about 2-3 years." Seems insanely wasteful. I use my phones for at least 5 years now. To spend that much money on something that you're essentially forced to replace that often is so wasteful.

Yes, this is ridiculous. My last iphone lasted 6 years, I bought one of those kits to DIY replace the battery at about year 4 to get more time out of it before I traded it in. 2-3 years means you’ve likely just paid it off for only a year before buying again.

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giant_smeeg feddit.uk giant_smeeg@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-10
#81 · Quote Reply

Seems insane to say "they work great" followed by "the screen lasts about 2-3 years." Seems insanely wasteful. I use my phones for at least 5 years now. To spend that much money on something that you're essentially forced to replace that often is so wasteful.

Yeah, I respect my hard earned pennies and I cannot commit to a folding phone due to their longevity.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#82 · Quote Reply

I've been using a Galaxy Flip for years. Never going back to the big slab. Rumors of screen life are pure internet bullshit.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#83 · (edited) Quote Reply

True. Folding phones are stupid, almost noone will buy them and they will eventually stop producing them. But not so for LLMS, they don't function through basic market mechanisms, since they exist through the AI circlejerk bubble. They will keep pushing LLMs, incorporating it into more and more until the entire UI of the phone is just one LLM which you have to interact with to make it do anything.

almost noone will buy them and they will eventually stop producing them.

Samsung sold 10 million so far, Nostradamus.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#84 · Quote Reply

How do you even make a protective case for these? Seems like it's too easy to drop it and crack the screen

the screen is flexible. that's the point.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#85 · Quote Reply

Still literally zero good reason for them to exist

They easily fit into any pocket. This isn't rocket appliances.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#86 · Quote Reply

A six foot screen will always rip your jeans unless you are a T-Rex.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#87 · Quote Reply

These are absolutely a gimmick. A fun gimmick for sure, but not worth the prices for flagship phones these days, especially when cheaper non-folding phones are more durable

A flip 7 is under $600.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#88 · Quote Reply

Damn no shit, what a weird step back for no reason.

I had three stylus phones over 6 years. Never used the stylus once. Ever. Samsung got user data back and ditched it.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#89 · Quote Reply

It's complete bollocks though, isn't it? I've had more or less every-other generation of Samsung foldables since the first one - all are still going fine with the exception of the very first (when I buy a new phone, I give the old one to friends or family.) One of them even got dunked in wet concrete (unfortunately while in my pocket, also dunked head to toe in wet concrete, but that's a long s...

People of Lemmy are conservative, they get confused and scared of our modern world.

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davetortoise reddthat.com davetortoise@reddthat.com
Joined: 2025-10-13
#90 · Quote Reply

They easily fit into any pocket. This isn't rocket appliances.

Thats not a reason for it to exist. Normal phones do that even better

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emergencyfood sh.itjust.works emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#91 · (edited) Quote Reply

Huh? It's the one real smartphone innovation I've seen in the last decade or so. A phone that can become a tablet would be very useful.

Worst is definitely losing the sd card slot.

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Jakeroxs sh.itjust.works Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#92 · Quote Reply

I had three stylus phones over 6 years. Never used the stylus once. Ever. Samsung got user data back and ditched it.

I mean I didn't use it most of the time either, but it was extremely handy having it when I wanted to use it specifically.

My wife uses hers a good bit playing games and such too 🤷

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rekabis lemmy.ca rekabis@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-19
#93 · (edited) Quote Reply

My biggest gripe is a lack of low-end phones with massive screens that aren’t high-end.

Both my parents are octogenarians with declining vision. I just want to get them into an iPhone whose screen they can actually see easily, but without going into that low-functionality “assistive access” mode.

Because it doesn’t help if the interface doesn’t allow you to tell apart two different phone numbers for the same person. Like, literally - it just shows the label, not the phone number, and when both numbers have the same label…

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Hanrahan slrpnk.net hanrahan@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-03-14
#94 · Quote Reply

the only people I see with foldables are people who buy their phones from their carriers on payment plans.

i have one, i didn't get it on a plan. i love it (its a Moto 50 Ultra flip) small outside screen can do lots of things, folds up tiny in my pocket.

Got my Moto 50u really cheap, 50% off and had a $300 gift certificate about to expire (here in Australia)

Like the Samsung Fold 8 for many of the same reasons but im not rich, so maybe when the Fold 10 comes out and there's a clearance sale :) ... but would never go back to a slab now.

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Hanrahan slrpnk.net hanrahan@slrpnk.net
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#95 · Quote Reply

The worst thing to happen was the huge 6' screen. I just want a small phone with doesn't rip my jean's pockets and easy to handle with one hand.

that's one reason I use a Moto 50u flip, excellent pocketablity and the tiny outside screen is fine for message replies, reading short emails, time, day calender etc etc

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mojofrododojo lemmy.world mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-25
#96 · Quote Reply

i have one, i didn't get it on a plan. i love it (its a Moto 50 Ultra flip) small outside screen can do lots of things, folds up tiny in my pocket. Got my Moto 50u really cheap, 50% off and had a $300 gift certificate about to expire (here in Australia) Like the Samsung Fold 8 for many of the same reasons but im not rich, so maybe when the Fold 10 comes out and there's a clearance sale :) ... b...

glad you're enjoying it!

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crandall lemmy.today crandall@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-08-11
#97 · Quote Reply

It's complete bollocks though, isn't it? I've had more or less every-other generation of Samsung foldables since the first one - all are still going fine with the exception of the very first (when I buy a new phone, I give the old one to friends or family.) One of them even got dunked in wet concrete (unfortunately while in my pocket, also dunked head to toe in wet concrete, but that's a long s...

Why do you change so often?

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Xahvoc lemmy.world Xahvoc@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-20
#98 · Quote Reply

I bought a 2023 Razr not long after its successor came out. The phone was only $550 because I wasn't buying a current flagship (it doesn't matter whether or not it's foldable, flagship phones have gotten obnoxiously expensive), and so far it's held up just fine. There's creases in the protective layer over the screen where it bends the most, but it's not anything that really hinders my user exp...

I loved mine until it exploded! :'(
Now I have a unihertz titan. It's a really fun little phone!

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Swedneck discuss.tchncs.de Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-10
#99 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

i miss SD card slots

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SparroHawc piefed.world SparroHawc@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-04-08
#100 · Quote Reply

I loved mine until it exploded! :'( Now I have a unihertz titan. It's a really fun little phone!

How did your Razr die? Battery went up, or the screen just gave out?

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SparroHawc piefed.world SparroHawc@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-04-08
#101 · Quote Reply

Thats not a reason for it to exist. Normal phones do that even better

And if, for some reason, you want/need double the size of a regular phone screen?

Or just want to be able to fold your regular phone into something half the size? Because I'll tell you, a normal phone does NOT fit easily into smaller pockets without risking falling out (or gradually ripping holes in them, as several of my pairs of pants can attest to).

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