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Nowtayneicangetinto
thelemmy.club
Nowtayneicangetinto@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-07-17 |
Reddit fucking blows |
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Seralth
piefed.seralth.com
Seralth@piefed.seralth.comJoined: 2026-10-04 |
!It’s really fun when they start arguing and blowing each others minds. And I bet they’d introduce the kitty to the power of sudo pretty quickly… though giving the new murder hobo the power of sudo seems less wise than teaching Microsoft support peeps the power of grep. I mean, look at that little guy. He’s totally gonna take over the world. (Fuck it. Can’t be worse than the current assholes)
Gotta teach em bad habits early. That way they break things before it matters to much and they can learn! |
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FjordDan
lemmy.zip
FjordDan@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-08-27 |
It's too bad Ubuntu went to shit, because there is one thing that's nice about choosing it as your first distro: their version numbers are the date, which makes it really easy to remember exactly when you first started using Linux distros. April 2010 in my case. But no, just go with Mint these days. Everything good about Ubuntu, none of the bad.
Another nice thing about Unbuntu was that searching for "Ubuntu your-problem-here" usually gave good results. Sometimes it could be a 10 year old forum post that was still relevant. Searching for "Linux Mint your-problem-here" is more likely to give less relevant results. |
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Seralth
piefed.seralth.com
Seralth@piefed.seralth.comJoined: 2026-10-04 |
"I heard distro xyz is really beginner friendly, i didn't use it though so i can't give you much advice on that." is pretty simple. Maybe adding "...i'm using distro C btw" at the end if you truly want to feels important.
But distro C isn't actually easy you should use distro F for a really good new user experience! Lol |
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TeaWithDani
lemmy.world
TeaWithDani@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-07-24 |
I can’t understand why there’s so many people suggesting newbies something really complicated distro, when all they need is to start with a something really user friendly, like Linux Mint. User can then move on to other distros if they want to when their skills improve. I use Arch BTW.
Because most Linux users online are posers who only use their computers to run update commands. |
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TeaWithDani
lemmy.world
TeaWithDani@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-07-24 |
Really? i get handheld terminal command lines with embedded copy functions when i search for solutions to my Mint problems. It's a pretty kind and helpful community.
Mint community's first solution is always "have you tried just not doing that?". |
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MaskedNybbles
piefed.social
MaskedNybbles@piefed.social Joined: 2026-04-02 |
Tell me how to gather this information from the GUI. Plasma for preference please. >>> inxi -exzz ±[●][master] System: Kernel: 7.2.8-200.fc44.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 16.2.1 Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.7.5 Distro: Fedora Linux 44 (KDE Plasma Desktop Edition) Machine: Type: Desktop System: Intel Client Systems product: NUC8i7BEH v: J72992-303 serial: <superuser requ...
Not that I particularly want to get involved—I do also like |
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the_riviera_kid
lemmy.world
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-10 |
I wish I had that experience, but I suppose it serves me right by being a complicated dude, I’m used to my stream deck software and I just got myself an xlr microphone, setting up all the broken out streams of audio was a bit of a mess and some of it I have to repeat every time, like Everytime I launch overwatch I have to replumb it to push audio to the game sink instead of system, while all ot...
I had the same complaint about auto mounting internal drives and the stupid KDE wallet system, both of those things got fixed at some point. Given enough time I'm sure your issues will be figured out as well. I will say that audio support does really suck at the moment though. I gave up on using my surround sound system for the time being. |
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TeaWithDani
lemmy.world
TeaWithDani@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-07-24 |
Not at all my experience, I started using Linux in 2005, and Ubuntu was part of an explosion in available help for new users, but also many smaller distros had it, like for instance PC Linux which I think back on fondly. Beginner friendly distros was as much a thing back then as it is today. The biggest difference is more that Linux has become better, and some things are a lot easier today. Eve...
Ubuntu Forums have solved all my problems, past, present and future. |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
Yep, that was exactly the case back then, and getting the drivers to work was an awful experience, especially since they really didn't play nice with the iGPU. I for sure was way out of my depth at that time, with just enough linux experience to know that instead of "dir" i have to use "ls".
I'm pretty sure that most Linux environments that I've been in have had checks Okay, I'm on my phone right now, so Termux does, and it's not an alias. The manpages say that it's part of GNU coreutils, so it's probably like that on all the distros. checks the git mirror https://github.com/coreutils/coreutils/commits/master/man/dir.x The |
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lightnsfw
reddthat.com
lightnsfw@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
Later you had to uninstall pulse audio so sound worked. And recompile WIFI drivers with every Kernel update. Today though I can very much relate I don't want my OS to need more attention than maybe rebooting for updates once a month. That's what made macOS successful. Linux Desktop has become usable in that regard, now even vsync sometimes works.
And here I am rebooting windows every few days because it gets unstable. Meanwhile the Linux VM I have running on that very same windows keeps on chugging like clockwork. |
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pressanykeynow
lemmy.world
pressanykeynow@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-04-21 |
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Ah xfce user |
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AnimalsDream
slrpnk.net
AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net Joined: 2024-06-29 |
Another nice thing about Unbuntu was that searching for "Ubuntu your-problem-here" usually gave good results. Sometimes it could be a 10 year old forum post that was still relevant. Searching for "Linux Mint your-problem-here" is more likely to give less relevant results.
True, but Mint is close enough to Ubuntu that what solutions work for Ubuntu will likely work for Mint as well with little or no modifications. |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
I can help. First, install it. This depends on your distribution and package manager. apt, pacman, you name it, just search for "yt-dlp". Epic tech tip: do not install from flatpak or snap, because if you ever run into an issue the maintainers will hate you for it, and because it will be annoying (slightly different) to use in the former case. Important to note that sometimes your distribution ...
Either create a venv for the python package in question ( |
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SpatchyIsOnline
lemmy.world
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
It's too bad Ubuntu went to shit, because there is one thing that's nice about choosing it as your first distro: their version numbers are the date, which makes it really easy to remember exactly when you first started using Linux distros. April 2010 in my case. But no, just go with Mint these days. Everything good about Ubuntu, none of the bad.
Mint might be easier to recommended in their next major release, but being stuck on x11 when all the optimisations are being made for Wayland (not to mention features a lot of new users might expect like HDR and fractional scaling). They've also recently had a problem with shipping outdated packages and leaving the repo/support links as is, leading to users reporting bugs which were fixed months or even up to a year ago. They're working on all of that to their credit, and their next release should fix most of those problems, but I'm hesitant to recommended Mint right now |
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nitrolife
hikki.team
nitrolife@hikki.teamJoined: 2023-06-28 |
"I heard distro xyz is really beginner friendly, i didn't use it though so i can't give you much advice on that." is pretty simple. Maybe adding "...i'm using distro C btw" at the end if you truly want to feels important.
What's the value of this advice? You can google the same thing in about 2 minutes. People usually expect real-world experience. |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
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!nya@piefed.blahaj.zone was leaking |
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Sonotsugipaa
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-06-16 |
Gatekeeping is a big problem with anything - especially as it becomes easier. Film photographers balked at people going digital and about color grading and retouching with lightroom and photoshop. Car people talked shit about how using an automatic transmission wasn't really driving. PC gamers got pissy at console gamers in the 90s and 2000s for just wanting a game to fucking work without havin...
... we stopped doing that? D: |
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MyNameIsRichard
lemmy.ml
MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-07 |
Not that I particularly want to get involved—I do also like inxi—but you can launch Info Center (kinfocenter) from krunner, the application menu, or under About this System in System Settings to get a good amount of this information and more.
Info Center is good, but getting the information into a forum post isn't easy. With inxi, it's just copy and paste. Just one simple example where the terminal is better. |
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LucidNightmare
anarchist.nexus
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-05 |
This is partly down to human nature. Some people make it easy for newbies and listen to them. And others get off on talking down to people. For them, a newbie is a great target. Worse if that newbie is not there to learn to be an IT pro. Just wants to use Linux as a user. For example, just ask for a GUI solution to a problem, and you will see some CLI pros rush to answer. Even though they have ...
I'm someone who just prefers a GUI. I can do CLI for small things, but when it comes to ease of use, GUI all the way. |
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Simon_Shitewood
lemmy.ml
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-19 |
Because otherwise you don't have the "true linux experience", whatever that means. I work in IT support, and you can't imagine how completely computer inept the average user is. Like, they start crying when a button has moved 2cm to the side. These will never be able to use a command line, let alone install their own operating system. Yet some of these Linux evangelicals think everyone was born...
When I recommend Linux I always recommend Mint because it can be installed and set up by anyone who can read and follow half a dozen instructions. I don't often recommend Linux though, because the average user won't even read an error message before giving up. |
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BladeFederation
piefed.social
BladeFederation@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-18 |
This isn't entirely wrong, but sometimes you should just do the thing you want to do in the first place. For example, MOST distros are "new user friendly" these days. Mint is cool, but you don't need to go to Mint first if you want to use, say, CachyOS. Rolling distros I've found to be actually EASIER to deal with. Literally just update regularly and you're good. Don't have to reinstall for an upgrade, or have outdated software with bugs that were patched 2 years ago. Obviously yeah, there are distro where you have to do or customize everything like Arch, Gentoo, or LFS, but most people don't ever want to build up to that in the first place. If it has the featured you want, just try it. Nix is maybe one of the exceptions, but at the same time it's so different so you're not going to get a ton of transferrable skills from an easier distro anyway. |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
In reply to an earlier post
Yeah, the terminal is much more universal on Linux distros. People will have wildly different GUI environments. I have no idea how to do thing X in all of KDE Plasma or GNOME or Xfce or Cinnamon or whatever. But outside of package management and some systemwide config, most Linux distros work pretty much the same way at a bash prompt. |
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LucidNightmare
anarchist.nexus
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-05 |
In reply to an earlier post
I switched from openSUSE to Fedora because SUSE was a little too bleeding edge for me. If you're coming from Debian, Fedora will be right in the middle of bleeding edge and Debian stable. I think. :-P |
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Bluewing
lemmy.world
Bluewing@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-25 |
In reply to an earlier post
I've been at this Linux thing for maybe 20 years now. I've tried more distros than I can remember. And after running Kinonite and Aurora for almost 2 years now, I tend to recommend any Atomic based distro or spin for newbies. They are stable and solid. While still allowing for users to easily choose their own software and install it with very little worry of burning the house down. And Bazzite fits right in there. Easy install and it works well for gaming. Or choose Aurora if you are looking for a "regular" desktop experience, (that's me). And they take care of your video card drivers because you choose your video card when you download the ISO. Mint is nice and I will recommend it also, but Atomics are the way forward for newbies and those that either don't want to tinker anymore or those that aren't at that "Lemme see what it takes to break this" point. |
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LucidNightmare
anarchist.nexus
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-05 |
I've had more bad experiences trying to enjoy new things in new communities than good experiences. I think that is more to just how shit my luck is, but it still sucks when I'm just trying to enjoy something with others online. :-/ |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
In reply to an earlier post
Modern day internet techies will snear at you for using AI assist tools when setting up an environment. But by god, do these agents not save me endless hours of trying to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls of system configuration. RTFM only works when the documentation is high quality and easy to follow. Better yet, if you know the manual so well, just link me to the damned chapter I'm supposed to focus in on. I'm trying to set up an *arr stack, not become a sysadmin team lead at a Fortune 500 company.
In fairness, a lot of those config files were relatively easy to write. I'll take that over hunting through forty different nearly-identical screens in a custom configured BIOS. |
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mobyduck648
lemmy.world
mobyduck648@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-05 |
Because most Linux users online are posers who only use their computers to run update commands.
Nah, poser was my teenage self installing it on my first gen iPod nano despite not knowing so much as what cat or mv does. |
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imeansurewhynot
sh.itjust.works
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-12-31 |
Mint community's first solution is always "have you tried just not doing that?".
Never got that one before, I always get multiple solutions and workarounds until a problem is solved. |
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SaharaMaleikuhm
feddit.org
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org Joined: 2024-07-23 |
What's the value of this advice? You can google the same thing in about 2 minutes. People usually expect real-world experience.
That's alright, I've used them all. Don't ask me about Fedora cause I will shit on Red Hat for the rest of my life. This also includes stuff like Bazzite by extension. |
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Bluewing
lemmy.world
Bluewing@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-25 |
In reply to an earlier post
You don't hunt buff, buff hunts YOU! (Gentoo almost made me cry back in the day). |
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Sabata
ani.social
Sabata11792@ani.socialJoined: 2024-06-02 |
people would tell you to RTFM if your question was answered anywhere in the documentation Modern day internet techies will snear at you for using AI assist tools when setting up an environment. But by god, do these agents not save me endless hours of trying to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls of system configuration. RTFM only works when the documentation is high quality and easy to follow. Better...
You can search the ancient scrolls for an eternity or consult the all knowing shoggoth that may melt your brain or lie. |
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lightnsfw
reddthat.com
lightnsfw@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
In reply to an earlier post
I chose bazzite because it had all the gaming shit included and I wanted to get some experience with a known good configuration before I tried starting from scratch. So far I haven't ran into any problems other than the install script someone made to get my 3d printer working with cura doesn't work. I think I can manually put the files where they need to go but wasn't able to figure it out when I tried a few weeks ago. |
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kamen
lemmy.world
kamen@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-19 |
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MacOS has the advantage (that the other OSes don't) of being developed in house by the same company that designs the hardware. |
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Bluewing
lemmy.world
Bluewing@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-25 |
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This is more accurate anyway.
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
You can search the ancient scrolls for an eternity or consult the all knowing shoggoth that may melt your brain or lie.
Listen, I'm not saying Ya hai kadishtu ep r'luh-eeh Nyogtha eeh, s'uhn-ngh athg li'hee orr'e syha'h. But I get it. |
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Bluewing
lemmy.world
Bluewing@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-25 |
In reply to an earlier post
Mint is great for that. Fedora also offers up cookbook style instructions that can show both GUI and terminal commands. It's a great way for newbies to get used to both methods. |
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percent
infosec.pub
percent@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-05-03 |
people would tell you to RTFM if your question was answered anywhere in the documentation Modern day internet techies will snear at you for using AI assist tools when setting up an environment. But by god, do these agents not save me endless hours of trying to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls of system configuration. RTFM only works when the documentation is high quality and easy to follow. Better...
I've been using a local Qwen3.8 model as a NixOS sysadmin lately for a non-critical VPS. So far, it has been working surprisingly well! I guess it's easier for AI agents to gather context when the whole system and apps are defined in code, and immutable when applied. |
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zane
infosec.pub
zane@infosec.pub Joined: 2024-05-05 |
In reply to an earlier post
Wait most people don't have to do this still? |
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tal
lemmy.today
tal@lemmy.todayJoined: 2023-10-04 |
In reply to an earlier post
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347298908843
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Bluewing
lemmy.world
Bluewing@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-25 |
In reply to an earlier post
And that's OK. It does get them to open the term and see it and use it a little - copy/pasta is how we all started out. (Truth is, I still copy/pasta after more than 20 years should perhaps need) But that does not negate the GUI experience. I like and use the GUI every time I can. But I understand the need for the Cli too. I can often use it to better see where a problem is. Something my GUI lovin' lazy butt doesn't always do. |
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Kristell
herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lolJoined: 2026-01-13 |
In reply to an earlier post
Yeah, I'm very interested in the user side of Linux, less so what's under the hood. There's some degree of it there, I do use Gentoo, which is more manual than any other distro I've come across, but that's about as deep as I want to go for a daily driver. I am a little tempted to do LFS on a VM once I have a computer that can handle it again |
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diaphragmwp
discuss.tchncs.de
diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2026-06-03 |
If your distribution allows using pip (most don't) Either create a venv for the python package in question ($ python -m venv venv in the package build directory) and activate it ($ . venv/bin/activate in the package build directory) before running the program or running pip commands, or use pipx instead of pip).
Or |
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Bluewing
lemmy.world
Bluewing@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-10-25 |
In reply to an earlier post
Look at Fedora perhaps. It's often the first steps into the wider seas of distro hopping, (if your into that sort of thing). You will get a stable distro with a good number of spins to try out and up to date software with regular upgraded versions every 6 months. The Atomic spins are super stable. The "regular" spins can be a good gateway to advance your skills a bit. If you are a gamer, checkout Bazzite maybe. Bazzite makes gaming easy. |
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Simon_Shitewood
lemmy.ml
Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-19 |
In reply to an earlier post
It's easy enough, it's just a pain in the arse to update anything once changed. The simple answer is that most users never run into that situation. The average Bazzite user would still be on windows if it didn't actively get in the way of just playing videogames, so they're not even exploring the Bazaar, never mind compiling something from source. Steam and Firefox come preinstalled, they might install Discord and Heroic, and that's them set. Immutability means they can just play their games without disturbances. |
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hansolo
lemmy.today
hansolo@lemmy.todayJoined: 2025-06-07 |
I've had more bad experiences trying to enjoy new things in new communities than good experiences. I think that is more to just how shit my luck is, but it still sucks when I'm just trying to enjoy something with others online. :-/
I don't think it's just you. That seems like how most people are online these days. Aggressive gatekeeping vs. first timers asking "did I do basic thing right? :3" for pretend internet points. |
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LucidNightmare
anarchist.nexus
LucidNightmare@anarchist.nexus Joined: 2025-09-05 |
I don't think it's just you. That seems like how most people are online these days. Aggressive gatekeeping vs. first timers asking "did I do basic thing right? :3" for pretend internet points.
Thank you. It seems so hard to find like-minded people on the internet for me. I've tried and tried and tried over the years and just never felt welcome anywhere online with others who might share my interests. Couple this with IRL issues finding those people, and it can be lonely at times. Thank you for your comment, it's hard to not feel like a "me" issue, but comments like yours help to alleviate that feeling. :'-] |
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dihutenosa
piefed.social
dihutenosa@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-04 |
In reply to an earlier post
Migrating the rest of my boxen to flakes rn. Kindly keep it quieter out there, folks, you're making it hard to hear the HDD to see if the nixos-rebuild actually uses the cache. |
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pyr0ball
lemmy.dbzer0.com
pyr0ball@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-07 |
I've had more bad experiences trying to enjoy new things in new communities than good experiences. I think that is more to just how shit my luck is, but it still sucks when I'm just trying to enjoy something with others online. :-/
Definitely not a universal experience. I hope you have a better one here! Are you just new to lemmy or Linux or something else? |
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Grail
multiverse.soulism.net
Grail@multiverse.soulism.netJoined: 2026-01-14 |
Chat, I need help. Since a couple updates ago, CaxhyOS isn't focusing on Proton applications properly. If I click on a Proton window, it doesn't actually focus it unless I first minimise all applications, or then minimise another application. It's super annoying for alt-tabbing fullscteen games, since I have to go to the desktop before going into a game. Curiously, I don't think it happens with Bitburner, which lately I've had running all the time. So maybe it's only happening with the second game I launch at a time? Not sure. |
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