Why give it the wifi password on the first place?

Probably a "smart" coffee maker.

As consumers, we've got to start saying no to connected devices that really don't need to be connected (and most don't need to be connected anyway).

It is considered rude to not give guests the password I beleive.

The S in IoT stands for security.

Like I say about smartphones, they are only smart when conpared to the users...

Just put on there it connects to the internet to get the freshest electrons for your coffee and boomers will give it WiFi, their credit card number and one quarter of their children's inheritance

He found that while the coffee maker had generated 1TB of traffic, most of it stayed within his parents’ home network rather than being sent over the internet.

“This is likely a bug with this unit,” he explained. “It did saturate my AP, that sucked.”

In simpler terms, the coffee maker was generating so much traffic that it overwhelmed part of the home Wi-Fi setup.

so you can make coffee from anywhere in the world, and for firmware updates and to get the latest brew styles.

I love it when someone tries to make a snide comment, calling other people stupid, and makes a flagrant spelling error.

1TB of data used by following the link and hitting the usual google, amazon trackers etc

And then we have to ask the question, why the fuck would a coffee machine, much less a fucking Kureig that just produces crap by default anyways, need to be connected to a network to begin with.

Honestly, it's such a hassle now to buy anything, even a decent stove, that doesn't have or worse yet require a internet connection and a shit app.

I read some comments elsewhere that they think it was hacked by a botnet. The idea being that it's easy to block a one source during a DDoS attack, but much harder when its coming from hundreds of fucking coffee machines. lol.

I honestly think that some smart devices could be really useful. But, there are 2 major changes needed before they're worth buying:

1. Meaningful privacy laws. By default any device should be locked down otherwise the companies are in deep trouble for privacy violations. Any agreements you make to allow them to do something should be ones you can easily revoke at any time.

2. Right to repair / modify anything you own without any issues. If you buy a Samsung washer with "smarts", the same store that sells you the washer should be able to offer you alternative firmware from a number of different vendors. If the washer breaks, you should be able to fix it yourself, or hire someone to fix it, whether it's a mechanical fix or a software fix. If you want to go in there and modify it yourself, or go online to some standard site to download a new feature, you should be able to do that. It your hardware, you should have full control over it. Same with printers, which would end the expensive ink fiasco. Same with Apple's app store monopoly.

I love smartasses... Same principle.

I have a microwave and a washing machine that have the ability to be connected to Wi-Fi that will never be connected to my Wi-Fi.

I cannot personally fathom why they would ever need network access.

Why tf would a coffee machine need internet? My espresso machine has like 5 buttons.

Mine has 3 and works just fine lol

Here's my big issue. There's no need for a smart device to contact someone else's server. It could just connect directly to whatever device you're controlling it with.

My guess is it's sending multicast messages in a hot loop trying to communicate with an app or other IoT devices on the network and freaking out because it's not getting a response.

Yeah. We're too used to that being the normal thing to do. It vaguely makes sense in some scenarios, like to see if there has been a firmware update. If there's a security issue you either want the device to update automatically or you want to be able to notify the user. But, even then, there are other ways of doing it that don't involve the device sending traffic to the Internet. IoT should really be made from devices that are unable to exchange traffic with anything outside the local network.

Even if you come up with a plausible scenario where maybe you'd want a device to be accessible outside your home (i.e. you want to start your coffee maker before you get home) that could be done without the device having access to the outside world. It would be easy to set up a device which can accept outside messages ("make coffee") and forward them on to devices inside the network. There are ways of making that much more secure. And, if that's the case, needing the latest security update for an IoT device is less urgent.

It’ll even reverse your mortgage, which Tom Selleck approves!

This article is extremely short, misleading, and ultimately pointless.

The owner of the coffee machine was unable to determine why it had generated approximately 1 TB of network traffic in just 10 days. However, the data reportedly remained within his own Wi-Fi network and was never transmitted over the internet. The owner himself acknowledged that it was likely some kind of error, software malfunction, or defective unit.

More importantly, he admitted that he never investigated the issue further. Instead, he simply unplugged the machine and replaced it rather than attempting to determine what was actually happening.

So what, exactly, does this article accomplish? It provides no technical explanation, identifies no underlying cause, and offers no evidence that the manufacturer was collecting, transmitting, or doing anything nefarious with the data. It presents an unexplained technical anomaly and leaves the reader to draw their own conclusions.

The implication is obvious: look at how much data this coffee machine is generating! What could the manufacturer possibly be doing with all that information? The article encourages suspicion without providing the evidence necessary to justify it.

And the irony is that the sheer volume of traffic makes the most sensational interpretation less plausible, not more. One terabyte of data in 10 days is an extraordinary amount for a coffee machine. Without knowing what the traffic consisted of, the most reasonable starting point is a software bug, a malfunctioning device, or some other technical error, not a manufacturer secretly harvesting an unprecedented amount of information about someone's coffee-drinking habits.

Could there be a legitimate privacy concern? Certainly. But establishing one requires examining the traffic, identifying its destination, determining what information was being exchanged, and explaining why. None of that appears to have happened here.

Instead, we are left with an unexplained anomaly, an owner who chose not to investigate it, and an article that invites readers to fill in the blanks with their own conspiracy theories.

If the goal was to inform readers about the privacy risks of connected appliances, the author had an opportunity to do so. Instead, the article generates suspicion without generating any meaningful understanding.

That is the real problem with this kind of reporting: it teaches people to be afraid of technology without teaching them how to evaluate the evidence. There is a legitimate conversation to be had about connected devices, data collection, and consumer privacy. Stories like this do little to advance it.

Espresso, earl grey, hot.

Why net connection for coffee machine, to download recepie for coffee?

🚨individual consumer action advocated as an alternative to system change🚨

To download beans?

wtf are you torrenting now, coffee pot???

The title of that text makes no sense.

• Data can't be used up, only stored, transmitted, read, written etc.
• No transmission allotment from an ISP was used up either, as the traffic was sent locally.

You wouldn't download a bean

I think they're confusing it with capped cellular data usage

Coffee is so cheap and easy to make I have made it several times without even using a coffee maker.

Was it good? Fuck no. Honestly it was probably pretentious as hell.

Was it coffee? Yeah it was pretty good in that regard.

But honestly who needs a thing that will torrent a terabyte of data from your internet? Especially in the day and age where Americans have data caps unlike the rest of the world. I cannot imagine suddenly being hit with nonsense fees because your coffee pot decided that it needed to scrape the entire internet or something stupid like that.

Look at you mr fancy pants, coming in here with rational thoughts. "Maybe they could have actually done real reporting bla bla bla." We all know what you are. Youre just trying to cover up for the real culprits: the high fructose corn syrup industry trying to find out what we put in our coffee. Youre type make me sick.

Anyone stupid enough to connect a coffee machine to the internet deserves a coffee machine that is connected to the internet.

There’s no S in IoT?

Exactly.

Woosh.

Remote Control App to get it to brew a pot timed for when you come home from work

Y'all know the first ever IOT device was a coffee maker right?

HTTP Status 418: I'm a teapot was added way back in 1998 as part of the Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol

Bandwidth

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Reference/Status/418

I've downloaded some pretty good bean flicking videos.

I've seen multicast amplification bugs flood an AP like that

Mine has two, though I really only need the one because longo shots are for psychopaths

I don't really get why everything need to be IOT nowadays.

I've read that the coffee machine use internet for being used remotely to get your coffee ready at the time you want it. Bro, it takes 15 minutes to use it directly.

If you want your coffee ready for an exact time, why not adding a simple as f$ck clock to the machine and set the clock for the especific time when you want it to make your coffee?

I admit that some things are pretty useful with IOT, but not a coffee machine bro, wtf?

For that the unit is wrong.

Yeah there are such limits sometimes, but they write that it didn't leave the house network, so they knew better when they made the title... I don't know just seems like clickbait.

Any "smart" appliance is an instant no-buy for me

Wasn't it a live view of the coffee pot so people could know if it was full or empty?