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ExtremeDullard piefed.social ExtremeDullard@piefed.social
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That's the amount of economic value AI will have to deliver to justify all the investment

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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-05-29
#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

that's more than the gdp of all but just two nations (usa, prc) on the entire planet.

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DarkGamer fedia.io DarkGamer@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-06-12
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The end goal is to replace labor

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andallthat lemmy.world andallthat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
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The end goal is to replace labor

Might be... But then who's going to pay those $6T to Anthropic and/or OpenAI when there is no longer an economy?

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TootSweet Moderator TootSweet@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-04
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Guys, it's not a bubble. Super not a bubble. Totally, for sure not a bubble. Not even a little bit a bubble.

(/s)

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justsomeguy lemmy.world justsomeguy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-25
#6 · Quote Reply

Bro please just 6 trilly bro we're almost there I swear just 6 trillies per year and we good bro please

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HerrVorragend lemmy.world HerrVorragend@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
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Might be... But then who's going to pay those $6T to Anthropic and/or OpenAI when there is no longer an economy?

I think it is non-manual labour that they want to replace. In their world, people will still have to earn money, but not with their brain or expertise but with their hands and/or bodies.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-21
#8 · Quote Reply

curious if China is having similar problems with keeping the bubble inflated.

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Joe discuss.tchncs.de jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-07
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that's more than the gdp of all but just two nations (usa, prc) on the entire planet.

Nothing a little more inflation can't fix!

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andallthat lemmy.world andallthat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
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I think it is non-manual labour that they want to replace. In their world, people will still have to earn money, but not with their brain or expertise but with their hands and/or bodies.

Well, Robotics is (allegedly) making big progress too. Have you seen those robot dogs replacing security guards, self-driving cars replacing human drivers, or the level of automation reported in Chinese car factories? Even warfare has changed, largely automating the once manual job of murdering your neighbors.

But that aside, even if manual labor still exists in this future automation dystopia, if it's all that's left, the economy will still shrink considerably.

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Elvith Ma'for feddit.org elvith@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-21
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Guys, it's not a bubble. Super not a bubble. Totally, for sure not a bubble. Not even a little bit a bubble. (/s)

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pulsewidth lemmy.world pulsewidth@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-29
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that's more than the gdp of all but just two nations (usa, prc) on the entire planet.

Yep. Supposedly would be worth more than the entire global oil & gas industry.

Yahuh.. Chatbots.

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ThunderComplex lemmy.today ThunderComplex@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-08
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This is pretty easily doable. If everyone who uses ChatGPT paid $6700 per month as a subscription fee then OpenAI could cover this cost alone. /s

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Sundray lemmus.org sundray@lemmus.org
Joined: 2023-12-19
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curious if China is having similar problems with keeping the bubble inflated.

"Why China’s AI Bubble Is Also Industrial Policy"

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Sundray lemmus.org sundray@lemmus.org
Joined: 2023-12-19
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So, either the bubble bursts and 99% of the sector's value evaporates in a spectacular flash... or, one of these stochastic parrots turns into a magical genie that gives Sam Altman three wishes.

He likes those odds!

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pulsewidth lemmy.world pulsewidth@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-29
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So, either the bubble bursts and 99% of the sector's value evaporates in a spectacular flash... or, one of these stochastic parrots turns into a magical genie that gives Sam Altman three wishes. He likes those odds!

Which would suit me fine if it was just that sector's value that evaporated. I'd be happy to never hear of OpenAI, Anthropic or even NVidia ever again. But it won't just wipe them our, it'll hit the vast array of banks, investment funds (including people's superannuation and 401ks) funding them, and kill the world economy.

It should still definitely happen though, and sooner rather than later, the longer it's delayed the bigger the bubble gets and the longer the recovery is likely to be.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-21
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"Why China’s AI Bubble Is Also Industrial Policy"

so they are attempting(successfully so) to weaponize the bubble against western economies and essentially not be caught holding "the flower" when the music stops.

neat.

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Rothe piefed.social Rothe@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-25
#18 · Quote Reply

The end goal is to replace labor

It is not going to though. And even if it was capable of that, it still wouldn't provide them with anything near 6 trillions.

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Lucidlethargy sh.itjust.works Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-28
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Not hard after you replace a huge percent of the workforce.

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Thorry feddit.org Thorry@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-08-30
#20 · Quote Reply

Bro please just 6 trilly bro we're almost there I swear just 6 trillies per year and we good bro please

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HerbGrower slrpnk.net HerbGrower@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2026-07-09
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But don't worry, its providing great new jobs for humans!

AI agents rent a human, complete captchas for £0.02 per pack of 5.

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CompactFlax discuss.tchncs.de CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-02-14
#22 · Quote Reply

Bain & Co reading over Zitron’s shoulder

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
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Which would suit me fine if it was just that sector's value that evaporated. I'd be happy to never hear of OpenAI, Anthropic or even NVidia ever again. But it won't just wipe them our, it'll hit the vast array of banks, investment funds (including people's superannuation and 401ks) funding them, and kill the world economy. It should still definitely happen though, and sooner rather than later, ...

Fuck the banks first of all I hope they die. But the feds will bail them out, either party, both parties will bail them out, borrowing other peoples' money is their reason for being.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
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Might be... But then who's going to pay those $6T to Anthropic and/or OpenAI when there is no longer an economy?

They can't see past their next set of financial statements and their stock prices. They are unable to act in long term interest, just as capital has outsourced our industry and destroyed the base of consumers that were buying their products in the first place.

Who knows what they think though, they are all very impressed with themselves and their ability you can be sure, they could well have very warped views on how it would play out if they got their way.

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bedwyr piefed.ca bedwyr@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-03-23
#25 · (edited) Quote Reply

curious if China is having similar problems with keeping the bubble inflated.

China has a way smaller bubble though, the US dwarfs everyone else in data center build outs.

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
Joined: 2026-08-07
#26 · Quote Reply

that's more than the gdp of all but just two nations (usa, prc) on the entire planet.

We really need to solve this problem by Sanctions against the US.

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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com
Joined: 2026-08-07
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So, either the bubble bursts and 99% of the sector's value evaporates in a spectacular flash... or, one of these stochastic parrots turns into a magical genie that gives Sam Altman three wishes. He likes those odds!

Pretty sure his first wish will be to release the hypno drones to create slave humanity.

Neither outlook is good.

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weps lemmy.world weps@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-22
#28 · Quote Reply

The reality is that everyone with a phone or internet pretty much is in contact with AI all the time.

Logistics, e-commerce, financials, healthcare, algorithms, Apple Gemini Meta, keyboard autocomplete

Sure the ChatGPT chatbot won't pay for it.

What's the 6,7 trillion about? North American market?

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group_hug sh.itjust.works group_hug@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-01-16
#29 · Quote Reply

Might be... But then who's going to pay those $6T to Anthropic and/or OpenAI when there is no longer an economy?

Once labor is replaced it can be liquidated. 8 million humans will own all the earth and it's resources no need to share with the other 8 billion anymore.

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krakloskewm lemmy.zip krakloskewm@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-10-09
#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm very pro Ai- thr tech itself not what everyone is doing with it.

But. It does not make money. It won't make money. It is possibly thr most anti capitalist technology ever invented.

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