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Evidence that lemmy.ml weaponizes rule 1 to censor criticism of russia and china
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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#302 ·

I'm more curious how .ml users feel about that mod's idea that rape is an acceptable action to do in certain contexts, for example if a woman served in a Western military. I can understand all their political positions and opinions but that one seems beyond the pale.

Geneva is more of a radlib and Bad Empanada stan than a principled communist. 80% of what they post is decent to good, and a solid 20% is horrendous.

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Cowbee [he/they] lemmy.ml Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-12-31
#303 ·

I only really saw it for myself when I said, "I'm completely opposed to the genocidal, apartheid state of Israel. I don't have a problem with Jews existing," and they responded by accusing me of being a "liberal Zionist" and "supporting genocide" and then blocking me. I remembered Cowbee saying something about them before, I just looked it up and I gotta give props as always because he was call...

It's honestly very unfortunate. Geneva has had ample time and advice to move onto a better, more coherent worldview, when they seem to be taking the opposite path.

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INeedMana piefed.zip INeedMana@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-07-03
#304 ·

There are no major Lemmy instances that defederate from Lemmy.ml in particular. Lemmy.zip comes the closest, not fully defederating but something similar. I forget if programming.dev does similarly as well. (Edit: ah, I forgot - only 2 of the 3 tankie triad instances are thus blocked by default, so here too there are zero major instances that block Lemmy.ml in particular.) There's also PieFed.z...

despite how they don’t block the triad - but at least PieFed.zip allows individual users to do so, if they wish. And after they figure out how, and that there is a need for such, which nobody it seems will officially recommend to them

On piefed.zip a new user has hexbear, grad and lemmynsfw put in their account filter. And the welcome DM that is being sent includes info that we do this and how to manage account filters. So as long as the new users read the DM, they from the start have the info how to block instances for themselves

We don't defederate often. I think it has been the selling point for some of our users. But PieFed offers much better blocking (compared to Lemmy at the time when I migrated), so we can have an instance for both - those who want everything, and those who don't

And btw, effectively speaking we don't do vote quota on PieFed.zip

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Bluescluestoothpaste sh.itjust.works Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
#305 · (edited)

Just defederate yourself from those instances (block them.) Idk why you think spending all this time and effort on an instance you really don't like is going to do anything positive for you.

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Test_Tickles lemmy.world Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#306 ·

I've been hoping that .world would defederate from .ml for a long time. I've become a lurker precisely because of this. We already defederate from alt-right and freeze-peach servers. If a server is overwhelmingly populated by fascist collaborators (call them tankies, if you will, but that's what they do), why feature their memes and users on the front page? It's like we still haven't learned fr...

Since there's no way to stop someone from just opening another account elsewhere, blocking the entire thing would just scatter them like smashing one roach will scatter the others.

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Bluescluestoothpaste sh.itjust.works Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
#307 ·

Wow you really showed them 👏 They're in your blocked users list 😮

This but unironically. Just block stuff you don't like and move on. I get a lot more annoyed by these posts bitching about ml than ml, because i have ml blocked already. Because i don't want to see ml anywhere on my feed. Except now i do and now i have another OP to block.

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STØERENFRIED feddit.org AEGIS2317@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-25
#308 ·

You should, and it's not. https://ia802906.us.archive.org/31/items/umberto-eco-ur-fascism/umberto-eco-ur-fascism.pdf Fascist doesn't simply mean "bad person", and you can absolutely be a horrible person without being a fascist. It only helps the enemy if we enable the notion that leftists call everything they oppose fascism.

I dont believe that rightwingers (the enemy) are in any position to lecture anyone about the usage of any word tbh. I will not recognize anything these people say as anything other than garbage.

Tankies claim to be antifascist and anticapitalist but root for unfree, hypercapitalist, ultranationalist, imperialist countries like russia, who are actually behaving like Nazi Germany right now. They even have their own Nazi Symbol "Z" and matching armbinds. If Tankies are not fashists by the book, then the more fitting desctiption would be Nazi Enablers, or simply Larpers.

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NonconfrontationaI lemmy.ml NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-10-06
#309 ·

How's the effort to start a communist revolution going?

How's the genocide going?

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Pirate2377 lemmy.zip pirate2377@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-20
#310 ·

How's the genocide going?

Nice pivot

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NonconfrontationaI lemmy.ml NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-10-06
#311 ·

There is no unlimited of freedom-speech anywhere in the world.but scale is different. You can't say Putin is a dictator in Russia, but you can say Trump is a bastard/Dictator in new york. USA limit less than Russia and Lemmy.ml limit more like russia than USA

Lmao, in the US, you can be deported to a concentration camp in a country you've never been to for protesting against your government doing a genocide. You haven't been paying much attention lately?

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NonconfrontationaI lemmy.ml NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-10-06
#312 ·

Nice pivot

Following your lead.

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Labor Class lemmy.world lithiumground@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-06
#313 ·

Just defederate yourself from those instances (block them.) Idk why you think spending all this time and effort on an instance you really don't like is going to do anything positive for you.

why you think spending all this time and effort on an instance you really don’t like is going to do anything positive for you.
I am not looking for something positive or negative. I am analyzing how they mix truth with false information to influence people.

What specifically triggers me is that they selectively criticize some things such as Israel's occupation of Palestine, but stay silent about Russia's invasion. It is good to inform others and provide references for the new lemmy users who do not know much about instances.

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Labor Class lemmy.world lithiumground@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-06
#314 ·

Reminds me of some zio article I read lately that says in reality democrasy does not work in the middleast and that Israel is the only democrasy in the middleeast..etc ,.. without mentioning that in reality the US steps in to slaughter every middleastern country the moment they try democrasy, and forces them to install a puppet dictatorship government that works for the intrests of israel and US.

Democracy works when it serves USA's interest.

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pressanykeynow lemmy.world pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-21
#315 ·

Reminds me of some zio article I read lately that says in reality democrasy does not work in the middleast and that Israel is the only democrasy in the middleeast..etc ,.. without mentioning that in reality the US steps in to slaughter every middleastern country the moment they try democrasy, and forces them to install a puppet dictatorship government that works for the intrests of israel and US.

Which democratic countries did the US install dictatorship to apart from Iran which was more the UK(BP) thing?

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pressanykeynow lemmy.world pressanykeynow@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-21
#316 ·

i will not make a difference between actual fascists who embrace authoritarian regimes or people who claim to be leftists and do the absolute same. it is important to call them fascists, nazis even, since their way of thinking is the absolute same and they have the audacity to think of them as leftists.

Or you can learn what words mean and describe them with suitable ones.

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Labor Class lemmy.world lithiumground@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-06
#317 ·

Lmao, in the US, you can be deported to a concentration camp in a country you've never been to for protesting against your government doing a genocide. You haven't been paying much attention lately?

https://lemmy.world/post/52958077/26290978

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Shimitar downonthestreet.eu Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu
Joined: 2025-01-28
#318 ·

Migration of user with joined communities etc works. But if you want to migrate whole instance, that won't be so easy. Mainly because other instances will still think yours is Lemmy. I think that in the long perspective what would be the easiest would be to create subdomain something(usually people put piefed here).downonthestreet.eu set up piefed on it (basically a separate instance) mirror ev...

I have only one user and host no public communities (at least, none that I would migrate). Ok I see.

So I would setup piefed on a different subdomain and then can I migrate / copy all my subscribed communities and posts and comments over? Because I want to remove the Lemmy instance then, and not lose all that

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OpenStars discuss.online OpenStars@discuss.online
Joined: 2023-12-31
#319 ·

We do need migration though. And btw you start by saying "software is software" and then go on giving examples why it's is not that simple.

PieFed provided the ability to migrate from Lemmy to PieFed, so if the Lemmy devs want to provide for the ability to migrate from PieFed to Lemmy then that is up to them to make that happen. Ofc anyone could contribute the code and submit a PR offering it.

Sublinks was going to do similarly, but the project got massively postponed when the primary dev had a baby.

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Tatar_Nobility lemmy.ml Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-07-13
#320 ·

Which democratic countries did the US install dictatorship to apart from Iran which was more the UK(BP) thing?

Refer to United States involvement in regime change.

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NonconfrontationaI lemmy.ml NonconfrontationaI@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-10-06
#321 ·

https://lemmy.world/post/52958077/26290978

Please don't ever link me to your whining again, thanks.

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Tatar_Nobility lemmy.ml Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-07-13
#322 ·

You arent really a lemming until you've told Cowbee to go fuck himself.

And you people wonder why you get banned.

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ghen sh.itjust.works ghen@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-28
#323 ·

Since there's no way to stop someone from just opening another account elsewhere, blocking the entire thing would just scatter them like smashing one roach will scatter the others.

When the roaches are farther apart they don't breed as much

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alcoholicorn lemmy.ml alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-02-13
#324 ·

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I'm in China right now, ama.

Here's a random bike I saw a couple hours ago

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Linda R nord.pub Lehmuusa@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-04-12
#325 ·

Recommend some instance that defederates the Tankie Triad. Problem solved? You would think right? Unfortunately their "problem" won't be solved till everyone's block list looks exactly like theirs. Who is censoring who again?

How come?

A block allows the tankies to see the normal person's comments and to reply to they. The only effect of a block is that you won't know someone has replied to your comment and can badmouth you freely. So yeah, regarding blocks you are right.

But a defederation works differently. Users of a defederated instance do not see the comments on the otger side of the breakage at all, and therefore cannot troll under them either. If your instance fully defederates from the trolls, you really do get a better experience. There's no need for everyone to defederate for defederation to benefit the instance's users.

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TragicNotCute Moderator TragicNotCute@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
#326 · (edited)

The comments in this post are turning nasty and I’ve already banned two users for their behavior. Locked.

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