I’d rather keep taking the pills!

We're way past needing $15/hr. Should be $20/hr minimum, and really more like $25/hr.

Just move to an actual civilised country.

$15/hr is only $31k/yr before taxes

There's people out there providing for their family as the sole bread winner and doing fine on 22/hr, it really depends on where you are living

You say you stop taking the pills, but keep on them, of course.

The highest minimum wage in Canada is $20.17 in Nunavut. At the current exchange rate, that’s USD$14.15.

Yes, we should be somewhere around $30/hour for a living wage now. Of course this will vary by area.

I think the point is it does not equal to the 150k from the post

I want the pills and the money.

That's how you negotiate a raise

Yes but imagine if they got 25 instead of 22; they could maybe save a little more and live a little more too.

Incredibly, not everyone is able to do that. It takes financial resources and a lack of health issues, for one.

There's people out there surviving on less, too. So?

That should be the standard for minimum wage. It used to be the case

Ah yes, that is also very correct.

The focus should be on crushing inflation, not adding inflationary pressure when everyone is already struggling

If you "work" for 8760 hours a year it nets out $130k. So not too far off assuming you are on the clock 24/7 with no actual job!

You’ve now got the money to fund it, I don’t see another path.

But zero or negative inflation is very bad for the economy

We're far above target inflation and have been for years

Many countries also have strict immigration requirements.

I knew a guy like this.

He stayed on the pills and got the job anyway

Are there? I’d like to see those numbers. I was earning 16/hr 20 years ago and after state and local tax, health insurance, and mortgage it was choosing what bills wouldn’t get paid until late fees racked up. We weren’t living large, our living space was just over 1,000 square feet.

16/hr 20 years ago is equivalent to about 27/hr today. So I have a hard time beleiving 22/hr is going to be much more than beans ‘n rice for a family - assuming this is a normal work week and not someone pulling 60 hours and OT.

And being willing to physically leave behind every single person you know and love that doesn't want to move to the exact same area in the exact same different country as you!

doing fine surviving

Yeah. So like I said, finances and health.

;-)

The latest Caleb Hammer show episode has a guy earning 22/hr working in a warehouse supporting his wife that doesn't work. Tons of irresponsible high interest debt, buying 8 balls of cocaine, still smoking, vaping, and he's able to pay back the debt without declaring bankruptcy whilst also putting away a few hundred a month into savings

Yeah, because breaking the inflation pressure is always on the workforce, never on the companies.

I only ever heard "you should abstain from wanting higher salaries, 'cause inflation". Never has a politician or economist said "companies should abstain from raising prices, 'cause inflation" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Who said it's on the workforce? It should be on the cunts that are driving energy prices through the roof

No pills, but no limits on liquid or powder , loophole.

Oh, thank god, I thought you were being serious until you credited Caleb Hammer.

They’re just joking, everyone. Don’t take it seriously.

Wage stagnation from greedy corps and almost non-existent minimum wage increases has been happening FAR longer then the current energy shit.

For an equivalent minimum wage to the 1950s, just accounting for inflation, we would need to be at $20/hr. If you're not making that, then you're making less than a McDonald's worker in 1955.

What a coincidence. My uncle gave me a job at his oil drilling company as long as I agreed to stay ON my pills.

He also gave a fresh college graduate a job there as long as she agreed to stay on the pill.

My uncle is a bad person

There are technically jobs like that near me, but you work 5 12s or 80 hours a week. And the only reason it works is the 40 hours of overtime. Not a life I'd want to live

It's always the smoking in those shows.

Like it's super important to cut back some $100 a' month habit to negotiate cutting several millions off the debt just by talking to the creditors.

Of course smoking is bad financially, but the whole point is really about punching downwards.

Participants need to bend down and quit smoking, vaping, fast food or anything really just so they can be told so and do what is said, like some sick submissive role play.

Meanwhile, actual rich people smoke, vape and eat at restaurants all the time. Because they "can afford to", because they're like fucking heroes just for being rich.

Yeah, we're getting fucked. Push for the right thing at the right time

That's some nice Poe's law there.

Reminds me of my very first job and the addict son who replaced our floor manager.

oh yea, well there are people who do fine with 0/hr. It indeed depends on where you live. (uncontacted tribes in amazon for example)

How is this relevant, i have no idea

Yeah really pissed me off spending all those years listening to europeans talk shit about american immigration policies being too strict when all of europe is just like "if your grandparents aren't one of us, you're unskilled labor, or don't have a high enough education fuck off"

Does he live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere?

His dad is the reason some jobs pay as little as 15$/hr. Those O&G companies lobby the GOP that prevents livable wages and increases inequalities.

Tell your dad I promise to stay off Quaaludes as long as I get a job!