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Usenet Retention Tests July 2026: How Much of Your Old Download Is Still There? - Usenet World
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themachinestops lemmy.dbzer0.com themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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ChunderBustickles piefed.nz ChunderBustickles@piefed.nz
Joined: 2026-09-10
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gosh, that's a lot of work - good on them!

I've been out of the Usenet scene for ages, does it still require multiple providers and/or indexers to be viable?

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ClownStatue piefed.social ClownStatue@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-05-13
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gosh, that's a lot of work - good on them! I've been out of the Usenet scene for ages, does it still require multiple providers and/or indexers to be viable?

Can’t remember my setup. I think I have 2 providers and 1 indexer. Haven’t had much issue finding things. It’s actually my primary source for most things. Easier than torrents.

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Fluxxr lemmy.dbzer0.com Fluxxr@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-10-07
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Can’t remember my setup. I think I have 2 providers and 1 indexer. Haven’t had much issue finding things. It’s actually my primary source for most things. Easier than torrents.

What services do you use? I’ve been wanting to try it

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QuizzaciousOtter lemmy.dbzer0.com QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
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This is weird. I tried Eweka like a year ago, when starting out with usenet and testing different providers / indexers. I'm not sure whether I was able to download even a single file - almost everything was failing due to missing articles. I ended up staying with Frugal Usenet where the missing articles were much less of a problem during my tests. What could be the reason considering the data here shows Eweka is just amazing?

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503 lemmy.dbzer0.com 503@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-10
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gosh, that's a lot of work - good on them! I've been out of the Usenet scene for ages, does it still require multiple providers and/or indexers to be viable?

Viable is a broad term.

I use a single provider and multiple indexers, and it is an objectively better experience when compared to torrents. Very fast downloads and I almost always find what I am looking for. For old or esoteric stuff, I rely on Internet Archive or YouTube.

I do hit an infrequent failed attempt but that is due to me relying on a single provider/backbone.

Long and short, usenet is viable and convenient for me than torrents and paid streaming and gaming subscriptions.

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themachinestops lemmy.dbzer0.com themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-19
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This is weird. I tried Eweka like a year ago, when starting out with usenet and testing different providers / indexers. I'm not sure whether I was able to download even a single file - almost everything was failing due to missing articles. I ended up staying with Frugal Usenet where the missing articles were much less of a problem during my tests. What could be the reason considering the data h...

This is just a guess, but all Usenet providers get copyright requests. Some are slow at deleting and some are fast Eweka is probably fsst which is why a lot was missing. For very old files it doesn't matter since most don't get copyright requests for them.

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themachinestops lemmy.dbzer0.com themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-19
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Viable is a broad term. I use a single provider and multiple indexers, and it is an objectively better experience when compared to torrents. Very fast downloads and I almost always find what I am looking for. For old or esoteric stuff, I rely on Internet Archive or YouTube. I do hit an infrequent failed attempt but that is due to me relying on a single provider/backbone. Long and short, usenet ...

Yeah Usenet is cheaper than netflix and much better than torrents for a lot of content.

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QuizzaciousOtter lemmy.dbzer0.com QuizzaciousOtter@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-04
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This is just a guess, but all Usenet providers get copyright requests. Some are slow at deleting and some are fast Eweka is probably fsst which is why a lot was missing. For very old files it doesn't matter since most don't get copyright requests for them.

Ah, I see, thanks for the explanation!

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ClownStatue piefed.social ClownStatue@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-05-13
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What services do you use? I’ve been wanting to try it

IIRC, my setup came from Dr. Frankenstein’s self hosting blog. I have accounts a newshosting, nzbgeek, & nzbplanet.

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MEtrINeS lemmy.dbzer0.com MEtrINeS@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-16
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For every selected segment, the test used the NNTP ARTICLE command to request the actual article body, rather than relying only on STAT or HEAD, which can report metadata even when the body is gone.

Fuck the providers who do this. This is a disruptive behaviour. The author should name and shame and the community shouldn't use those servers.

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