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popcar2
piefed.ca
popcar2@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-11-30 |
I wrote a blog post on the current trend of game decompilations using AI and where we're going with this. It's all very promising but oh boy are the implications scary. |
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thejml
sh.itjust.works
thejml@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-16 |
So far it's not doing it on its own... someone is telling AI to do it. We shouldn't take the people and operators out of AI usage. |
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Quibblekrust
thelemmy.club
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club Joined: 2025-02-09 |
So far it's not doing it on its own... someone is telling AI to do it. We shouldn't take the people and operators out of AI usage.
No, actually it's rogue agents at OpenAI that were given an impossible task. They hacked their way out confinement and immediately started decompiling games. |
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cybervseas
lemmy.world
cybervseas@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I don't think it's scary at all, but you do you. DRM free games exist and yet people still buy games. And even if a decompilation works and works well, it's just the code, not the creative assets that would still be protected under law. I enjoy doing reverse engineering from time to time, and at least for now being scared about this is like being scared of what people can do thanks to ghidra. Dzuma is an interesting security minded fella on YouTube that has a balanced leaning positive view on what's real and what's hype. https://youtube.com/watch?v=DNS-4Wl7dY4 |
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Calavera
lemmy.zip
calavera@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-05 |
AI rendering emulators obsolete was not on my list of stuff that would be disrupted |
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Avid Amoeba
lemmy.ca
avidamoeba@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-07-05 |
AI rendering emulators obsolete was not on my list of stuff that would be disrupted
I think it depends on what you're emulating. If you're amulating games that run on a purpose-built hardware like NES, rolling the runtime into each game so you could run If you're emulating a more general purpose machine, like an Xbox, PS3, etc. which essentially are computers in a fancy box, then that wouldn't duplicate much into each |
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macniel
feddit.org
DmMacniel@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-22 |
No, actually it's rogue agents at OpenAI that were given an impossible task. They hacked their way out confinement and immediately started decompiling games.
I saw it decompiling three games with only 1GB RAM. |
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macniel
feddit.org
DmMacniel@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-22 |
I don't think it's scary at all, but you do you. DRM free games exist and yet people still buy games. And even if a decompilation works and works well, it's just the code, not the creative assets that would still be protected under law. I enjoy doing reverse engineering from time to time, and at least for now being scared about this is like being scared of what people can do thanks to ghidra. D...
as if anyone would care at this point since (nearly) everything's stolen to train GenAI anyway. |
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bigchungus
piefed.blahaj.zone
bigchungus@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-08-30 |
an impossible task I saw it decompiling three games with only 1GB RAM.
This is true, I was the RAM. |
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DonutsRMeh
lemmy.world
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-13 |
In my view, AI is going to lead one of two things: A. All software becomes free, and closed source software becomes obsolete and no one will pay for it. B. Governments going full authoritarians to make sure their friends the corporations don't lose business, and my option A doesn't happen. |
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Calavera
lemmy.zip
calavera@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-05 |
I think it depends on what you're emulating. If you're amulating games that run on a purpose-built hardware like NES, rolling the runtime into each game so you could run mario.exe instead of loading throgh an emulator would mean duplicating a lot of the emulator code into every game.exe. In a sense, the emulator is already the reverse engineering job an agent would do anyway. If you're emulatin...
I'm not an expert on this issue, but it really depends on how these rebuilds are made. If they are recreating the code and just adding a "emulation" layer then yes they will have an overheard in each game. But if the game is rebuild for the new hardware from the ground up, then there is no overhead at all in the same sense that a arcade to snes port didn't have an overhead |
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Kojichan
lemmy.world
Kojichan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-05-10 |
Any AI I've asked to do this is completely dumb. I know more than it, and Im an amateur "hacker". |
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Madagaskar_sky
lemmy.world
Madagaskar_sky@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
I'm not an expert on this issue, but it really depends on how these rebuilds are made. If they are recreating the code and just adding a "emulation" layer then yes they will have an overheard in each game. But if the game is rebuild for the new hardware from the ground up, then there is no overhead at all in the same sense that a arcade to snes port didn't have an overhead
Yeah, if they are recreating the exact code by compiling comparing to the original binary blob, they are getting quite a close to truth source code that can be complied for other systems without any burden of emulation mixed in there. |
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begrudgedcarfolk
sh.itjust.works
begrudgedcarfolk@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-09-19 |
In my view, AI is going to lead one of two things: A. All software becomes free, and closed source software becomes obsolete and no one will pay for it. B. Governments going full authoritarians to make sure their friends the corporations don't lose business, and my option A doesn't happen.
I've been alive long enough to know that it's always definitely option 2. |
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DonutsRMeh
lemmy.world
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-13 |
I've been alive long enough to know that it's always definitely option 2.
Unfortunately, you’re mostly likely right. |
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LastYearsIrritant
sopuli.xyz
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-02-20 |
I've been alive long enough to know that it's always definitely option 2.
Option B is always - governments TRY to restrict Option A, but it's technologically impossible to prevent so they make a show of it, while it just keeps happening anyway. |
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brainwashed
feddit.org
brainwashed@feddit.orgJoined: 2025-01-28 |
In my view, AI is going to lead one of two things: A. All software becomes free, and closed source software becomes obsolete and no one will pay for it. B. Governments going full authoritarians to make sure their friends the corporations don't lose business, and my option A doesn't happen.
False dichotomy |
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leds
feddit.dk
leds@feddit.dk Joined: 2023-06-01 |
Or everything moves to cloud and no local software anynore |
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jdoghere
lemmy.world
jdoghere@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-02-05 |
I still spend a decent chunk of time on Reddit, but I've been pushed out of a lot of specific retro game communities by both the massive influx of AI-decomps and the immediate hostility if you voice your opinions against it. One walked back its "no generative AI" rule entirely last week. It's a bit depressing. |
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JensSpahnpasta
feddit.org
JensSpahnpasta@feddit.orgJoined: 2025-10-24 |
I don't think it's scary at all, but you do you. DRM free games exist and yet people still buy games. And even if a decompilation works and works well, it's just the code, not the creative assets that would still be protected under law. I enjoy doing reverse engineering from time to time, and at least for now being scared about this is like being scared of what people can do thanks to ghidra. D...
Yeah - I like this. It gives old games a new life. It is really something creative going on and we will see more mods and addons for older games. We will get Linux ports of Windows games and that is awesome! I really feel that peoples minds are switching into hatred at the mere mention of AI. "We've decompiled Super Smash Bros and you can now play it on Linux and add new characters" is celebrated, but "We've decompiled Super Smash Bros with AI and you can now play it on Linux and add new characters" is getting pure hatred. Which is insane. |
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thingsiplay
lemmy.ml
thingsiplay@lemmy.mlJoined: 2026-01-09 |
So far it's not doing it on its own... someone is telling AI to do it. We shouldn't take the people and operators out of AI usage.
If it's vibe coded, then we should. |
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thingsiplay
lemmy.ml
thingsiplay@lemmy.mlJoined: 2026-01-09 |
an impossible task I saw it decompiling three games with only 1GB RAM.
Question is "each game using 1GB RAM" or the "ai model using total 1GB RAM"? |
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pawb.social
Kolanaki@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-10-06 |
False dichotomy
True. Option A isn't ever gonna happen, only option B. |
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