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moldy_rice
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#52 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

People agree to Google telemetry on their Linux phones.

Not by default

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moldy_rice
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#53 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

They want to scan all of my files. They can go fuck themselves.

Oh it's so much worse than a FIM.

They want a rootkit with RCE

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misk
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#54 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Not by default

I think that depends entirely on whether opt-in is legally required in a given jurisdiction but they’ll certainly try and use every dark pattern in their arsenal to do so.

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voodooattack
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#55 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

in what sense?

The definitions are always behind, and custom sources are still behind. The configuration sucks and that’s from a NixOS user. The IO latency is atrocious when set to watching the filesystem, and it’s generally unwieldy. The clamscan/clamdscan separation doesn’t make sense either. And it’s slow as hell parsing definitions.

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enkille
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#56 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

oh wait, you're serious. let me laugh even harder

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calcopiritus
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#57 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Don't forget powershell. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/scripting/install/linux-overview

I unironically use PowerShell on Linux. It's the only shell with sensible key bindings.

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moldy_rice
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#58 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I think that depends entirely on whether opt-in is legally required in a given jurisdiction but they’ll certainly try and use every dark pattern in their arsenal to do so.

No, I mean when you install android it doesn't include the evil google blobs by default. You have to do that as an additional step.

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ExperimentalGuy
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#59 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Bots? Humans don't do that

I know a grad student that does. Compiles it from source themself.

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friend_of_satan
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#60 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I unironically use PowerShell on Linux. It's the only shell with sensible key bindings.

I guess to each their own. I am so used to getting bash (emacs) keybindings in macos that it drives me crazy that they don't work in KDE and Xwayland apps.

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Zephorah
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#61 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

On their own machine, maybe not. On their employer's machine, maybe if the employer demands it.

I didn’t realize businesses used Linux. Every place I’ve worked it’s been windows and Chrome/Edge.

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Ivan Overdrive
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#62 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I've used Teams on Linux and it worked fine. Granted it was basically just a wrapper for the web version, similarly with Outlook for Linux. I've not used One Drive on Linux, but that is what I'd be more concerned about.

I've used the web version of teams. Is the wrapper any different?

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BillyCrystalMeth
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#63 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Mildly related: I might try to convince my job to let me use Linux come device refresh time. But we use all Microsoft stuff. Is support for Teams, OneDrive, etc reliable on Linux? I have, of course, avoided it like the plague for personal use so I don't know. Is anyone else in a similar situation?

There's an unofficial Teams flatpak or just use web. I use Thundebird for Outlook. For some reason Outlook refuses to work on my Firefox, so I use Vivaldi for that too. OneDrive is fucked, but there is an Rclone integration if you can convince your workplace to give you the correct API permissions. I have unfortunately not.

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BillyCrystalMeth
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#64 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I've used the web version of teams. Is the wrapper any different?

Not really imo

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LaggyKar
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#65 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I didn’t realize businesses used Linux. Every place I’ve worked it’s been windows and Chrome/Edge.

It's mostly Windows of course. But some people in those companies may prefer to use Linux, and this gives a them a higher chance of being allowed to do so. I for one am running Linux in a company that's increasingly pushing for Microsoft stuff.

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Swedneck
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#66 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I use a Linux desktop for work. My employer is constantly threatening to replace it with a mac "so they can control it". Their main control point is microsoft defender. I would rather have defender on my work machine than be forced to use a mac.

see for work it makes sense because you hopefully don't do personal stuff on that computer, there's no hope of privacy on a work computer.

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Hueristic_Autistic
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#67 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Why do we need defender if red hat exists?

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Hueristic_Autistic
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#68 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

It'll most likely be used immutables more than anything. Which is shit for me because I fucking love Ubuntu.

See I am the key to bad things happening!!!! (I'm kidding I'm not special)

I switch to Ubuntu because windows slows down my ram speed and then windows goes and adds its security into it and makes it so that they're part of the OS no matter what.

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FlexibleToast
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#69 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Why do we need defender if red hat exists?

What does Red Hat have to do with an anti virus?

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gnawmon
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#70 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

ah the tech onion

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Hueristic_Autistic
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#71 Posted: · edited   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

What does Red Hat have to do with an anti virus?

I haven't been into linux since 2008 so forgive me on this one if I seem ignorant but isn't there redhat security and isn't that basically the same exact thing as defender except you just pay for it? Like isn't there redhat network security or some shit like that? So if linux already has a somewhat legacy security, why do we need to add microslop defender on top of it?

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Lee
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#72 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I've used the web version of teams. Is the wrapper any different?

It's basically chromium running the web version, but it appears as though it's a stand alone app. At least that's how it worked for the couple of Teams for Linux and Outlook for Linux apps I tried. I used this as part of a contract gig for about 2 years on Ubuntu machine.

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Ivan Overdrive
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#73 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

It's basically chromium running the web version, but it appears as though it's a stand alone app. At least that's how it worked for the couple of Teams for Linux and Outlook for Linux apps I tried. I used this as part of a contract gig for about 2 years on Ubuntu machine.

Can you send files through the chat? It's not an option in the web version.

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FlexibleToast
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#74 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

I haven't been into linux since 2008 so forgive me on this one if I seem ignorant but isn't there redhat security and isn't that basically the same exact thing as defender except you just pay for it? Like isn't there redhat network security or some shit like that? So if linux already has a somewhat legacy security, why do we need to add microslop defender on top of it?

No, Red Hat for the most part is not in the security game. There is OpenSCAP. Red Hat OpenShift does have Advanced Cluster Security available. But generally no Red Hat doesn't make security products like that. I guess maybe the closest would be using Satellite to manage clients and see their compliance. I don't know if Satellite can measure OpenSCAP compliance... Yes, there is a lot of security built in, but no they don't really do many explicitly security products.

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bertlewirth
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#75 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Lolno. Not happening on any of my machines.

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Hueristic_Autistic
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#76 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

No, Red Hat for the most part is not in the security game. There is OpenSCAP. Red Hat OpenShift does have Advanced Cluster Security available. But generally no Red Hat doesn't make security products like that. I guess maybe the closest would be using Satellite to manage clients and see their compliance. I don't know if Satellite can measure OpenSCAP compliance... Yes, there is a lot of security...

Thank you for teaching me something new. 😁

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Lee
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#77 Posted:   Subject: Re: Microsoft bringing Defender to Linux desktops. Repeat: Mi... Quote Reply

Can you send files through the chat? It's not an option in the web version.

I feel like I had posted screen shots through it a couple times. This was about 2-3 years ago and I may be misremembering. If you can't do that via web, then I'd not expect it to work unless I was using a Teams for Linux that wasn't a web wrapper, but I thought they all were web wrappers on Linux.

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