Stop resisting!

Mm, I meant the experience of being a driver on the road is that people tend to be driving about the speed limit. I remember when I was in Canada most everyone would instead drive 10-15 over. Which I guess isn't really a problem if they set the limits lower to account for it... I'm just a fan of clear instructions so this is my preference.

It is true that it is a revenue generation system. I honestly don't feel bad about it though. Speeding is dangerous.

Rings a bell, could be.

1. It's socially convention

2. Would be too quick

3. Oh boy, you're in luck!

4. Oh buddy, you'll love this!

If you want people to go 120, you set it at 110 because you're always going to give 10% for inattention/speedo malfunction/radar inaccuracy.

Speed cameras do shit all about someone speeding now instead of 2 weeks from now when you mail the vehicle a fine and the driver never sees a demerit. Especially if they have lots of money.

Or I guess we could just stroke ourselves over how we go the speed limit all the time, really truly.

In most places in the United States speeding is a criminal offense. Each element of the crime must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. And the accused has the right to confront the witnesses against him in court.

I sort of understand the argument about cops needing to hold the radar gun, but I also don't really get what they're contributing to the legal validity of the case.

The biggest thing they contribute is proof of identity. When they pull you over and run your license, they can testify with pretty strong credibility that it was you driving the car.

To prove speeding you have to prove that the car was going too fast and that someone in particular was driving.

Having a cop signing the ticket also gives the government a convenient witness who can be subpoenaed to come to court and to testify with personal knowledge of the incident. That satisfies the confrontation clause. Whereas in jurisdictions that have tried pure camera enforcement, the only witness they can usually bring is a low level camera company representative who has no personal knowledge. This leads defendants to demand a lot of discovery into the automated processes of the camera system, because that is what is really accusing them.

Conclusion: US jurisdictions do a lot better with camera enforcement when they create civil infraction liability under state law. But then some forms of enforcement, like license points, may be taken off the table.

I'll one up this.

In Australia we occasionally have signs: "40 (kh/h) when children as present"

Okay but doesn't that defeat the purpose? If I see the cunts then I'm not gonna hit them, no matter how fast I'm going.

The problem arises when i don't see the little shits.

I honestly don’t feel bad about it though. Speeding is dangerous.

But the system isn't stopping the speeding. If you concern is that speeding is dangerous, Australia currently has a system in place the costs residents huge amounts of money but does nothing to stop the speeding. The data is showing its increasing even! The system in place seems to be making speeding worse and more prevalent.

People will always drive at the speed that feels safe and comfortable, which, because we made roads safe and comfortable for cars, is higher than the posted speed limits almost everywhere.

So say a road here is 35 because there are crosswalks, pedestrians on sidewalks, businesses with cars pulling out. Unless the city makes it feel like a 35 mph road, that's not gonna happen. Speed bumps, narrower lanes, things like that work better. Usually cops don't ticket for 5 over unless it's a school zone at school beginning or end time.

It's not just speed limits. Pay toilets never worked here because people who paid, would jam the lock so the next person didn't have to. We just aren't the most rule-following place in general.

The older I get the more I give up on speeding. After doing the math I realized a long time ago that it rarely saved me any actual time, and moreso just gave me the illusion of making up time by cutting ahead and being the line leader. At most it was a minute, usually less. The only time speeding has ever actually saved me time is over long distances, and it's a tradeoff with higher fuel consumption. Shit costs too much these days, I'll putt along at the limit and save a few dollars while just leaving on time (or accepting being a little late).