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cm0002
infosec.pub
cm0002@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-10-21 |
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eurodyne
piefed.world
eurodyne@piefed.world Joined: 2026-07-25 |
lol |
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countvon
lemmy.world
countvon@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-09 |
lol
lmao, even |
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MummifiedClient5000
feddit.dk
MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk Joined: 2023-06-09 |
I bet they would like that. They can fuck right off though. |
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pb_
lemmus.org
polar_bear@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-10-13 |
Windows Defender is a good Antivirus, but which Linux user in their right mind would install Microsoft software voluntarily? |
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gravitas_deficiency
sh.itjust.works
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-20 |
lol that’s gonna be a nope from me, dawg |
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siravious
lemmy.world
siravious@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-23 |
Is this where they install the tracking ID too? |
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Victor
lemmy.world
victorz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-11-14 |
I'm good — there is nothing being installed on my systems that I don't know about, thanks. |
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potoo22
programming.dev
potoo22@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-16 |
"Would you like our spyware on your computer? We'll make sure we're the only spyware." |
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Zephorah
discuss.online
Zephorah@discuss.online Joined: 2025-07-01 |
Windows Defender is a good Antivirus, but which Linux user in their right mind would install Microsoft software voluntarily?
I think a general rule would be an antivirus unaffiliated with data center construction. |
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Lavender Breton
lemmy.zip
LavenderBreton@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-07 |
I switched to Linux to get away from Windows, thank you very much. I also won't forget how in 2014, the remains at an African-American gravesite got moved and damaged—just so they could build another data centre. |
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snoons
lemmy.ca
snoons@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-16 |
🤮 |
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snoons
lemmy.ca
snoons@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-16 |
lmao, even
lmfao Seven Ah Ah Ah |
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smaximov
lemmy.world
smaximov@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-31 |
Windows Defender is a good Antivirus, but which Linux user in their right mind would install Microsoft software voluntarily?
VS Code is one of the most popular text editors (even among Linux users) and is developed by MS. I use Emacs btw. |
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Shifty Eyes
leminal.space
shifty@leminal.space Joined: 2024-11-06 |
VS Code is one of the most popular text editors (even among Linux users) and is developed by MS. I use Emacs btw.
VScodium exists |
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Mistiy
lemmy.zip
Mistiygirl@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-06-25 |
VS Code is one of the most popular text editors (even among Linux users) and is developed by MS. I use Emacs btw.
vim better |
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JLD
lemmy.zip
jld@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-09-30 |
They know they're at risk of losing their market share with Windows, so they're pivoting to Linux. They don't get that they're the virus! |
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smiletolerantly
awful.systems
smiletolerantly@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-27 |
My personal desktop? Hahahahahaha nope My work laptop? Nervously shuffles this article under the rug before the C-suite finds it |
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smaximov
lemmy.world
smaximov@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-31 |
VScodium exists
Isn't it just a downstream fork? So, in a sense, still MS software. |
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Coffee Junky ❤️
beehaw.org
coffeejunky@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-27 |
My personal desktop? Hahahahahaha nope My work laptop? Nervously shuffles this article under the rug before the C-suite finds it
My company has a "yOu neeD a ViRusscaNNer on YoUr BYOd" (even on Linux) I installed clamAV. The only thing it does is silence the IT guys. |
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django
discuss.tchncs.de
django@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-05 |
vim better
No problemo, emacs has you covered with evil mode, so you can use vim keybindings in emacs. |
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RedGreenBlue
lemmy.zip
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-05 |
It's closed source software, right? |
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Great Blue Heron
lemmy.ca
GreatBlueHeron@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-04 |
Isn't it just a downstream fork? So, in a sense, still MS software.
I believe it is, but at least it has all MS nastiness stripped out |
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smiletolerantly
awful.systems
smiletolerantly@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-27 |
My company has a "yOu neeD a ViRusscaNNer on YoUr BYOd" (even on Linux) I installed clamAV. The only thing it does is silence the IT guys.
Yeah, similar here. We use Pareto Security (which is perfectly fine). I'm a bit worried though that some decision maker sees this and thinks "neat, now allachines can be managed via [whatever the Microsoft interface for that is called] |
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Miaou
jlai.lu
Miaou@jlai.lu Joined: 2023-08-03 |
I believe it is, but at least it has all MS nastiness stripped out
And also cannot ("legally") use the plugins that make vscode worth using in the first place |
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atrielienz
lemmy.world
atrielienz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
"Would you like our spyware on your computer? We'll make sure we're the only spyware."
Subject to terms and conditions. Here's a message from our partners. |
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eurodyne
piefed.world
eurodyne@piefed.world Joined: 2026-07-25 |
lmfao Seven Ah Ah Ah
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mystik
lemmy.world
mystik@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
"Would you like our spyware on your computer? We'll make sure we're the only spyware."
I've seen the server version in action. It hooks into the linux audit subsystem, and traces every system action and operation. The data it collects is super detailed, and designed to track which user, which program, and which servers are connected to, which files are read and written to track and potentially halt lateral movement through networks. For regulated enterprise environments, it satisfies IDS/IPS/EDR requirements, and it's all wired up with their M365/Intune/Defender management portal. It makes some neat reports automatically about how data flows through a network, especially if all the points on your network are licensed ($$) and included in the defender system. For personal systems. Yikes. Just Yikes. It also relies on modern CPU features, so it would complain loudly about our older servers, and spam logs with messages about how it couldn't run, even though the system was updated to a current version of linux. It also had (last year?) some bugs that had it spinning wildly on a closed socket, which was fun to find :-/. |
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Coffee Junky ❤️
beehaw.org
coffeejunky@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-06-27 |
Yeah, similar here. We use Pareto Security (which is perfectly fine). I'm a bit worried though that some decision maker sees this and thinks "neat, now allachines can be managed via [whatever the Microsoft interface for that is called]
A couple of years ago they changed the phone policy, you can only read work email on your phone when you install Microsoft intune and basically give the company admin access. We all use personal phones (company doesn't provide them), so basically my entire team decided to just not get work emails on our phones. Most of my team is self employed (freelance). Now sometimes I get complaints I don't respond to emails quickly... Yeah what on earth could be the reason for that.... |
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terabyterex
lemmy.world
terabyterex@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-03-06 |
Windows Defender is a good Antivirus, but which Linux user in their right mind would install Microsoft software voluntarily?
the title is wrong the body of the articke is correct. this isnt for you. this is for the enterprise who are already using defrnder (for enterprise) but want to add linux workstations |
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Maki
lemmy.blahaj.zone
randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-03-04 |
It's just another step in their EEE program. |
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Sina
beehaw.org
Sina@beehaw.org Joined: 2023-07-02 |
Windows Defender is a good Antivirus, but which Linux user in their right mind would install Microsoft software voluntarily?
I strongly disagree. I know this is the Internet consensus nowadays, but I have seen malware beating Defender multiple times. The last two times it was not zero day malware, but rather Defender failed due to architectural reasons. (not robust, reliable enough definition update mechanism & scanning stalled so the -relatively ancient- virus just disabled defender before it could've protected you) Sure, if you have a fresh WIndows install & Defender correctly updated its database, then it might benchmark very well. Detection itself will only stall under very specific circumstances that are not uncommon, but will not occur on a typical test rig. I have never seen such problems with Eset & Bitdefender. Even Kasparesky is doing a better job at pretending to be not spyware but an actual security suite than Defender. |
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terabyterex
lemmy.world
terabyterex@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-03-06 |
I've seen the server version in action. It hooks into the linux audit subsystem, and traces every system action and operation. The data it collects is super detailed, and designed to track which user, which program, and which servers are connected to, which files are read and written to track and potentially halt lateral movement through networks. For regulated enterprise environments, it satis...
but.. you read the article right.. right... this is only for enterprise |
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ikidd
lemmy.dbzer0.com
ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-04-23 |
Microsoft can walk west until their hats float. |
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bad1080
piefed.social
bad1080@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-27 |
My company has a "yOu neeD a ViRusscaNNer on YoUr BYOd" (even on Linux) I installed clamAV. The only thing it does is silence the IT guys.
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bad1080
piefed.social
bad1080@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-27 |
lmfao Seven Ah Ah Ah
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Mikina
programming.dev
Mikina@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-18 |
My company has a "yOu neeD a ViRusscaNNer on YoUr BYOd" (even on Linux) I installed clamAV. The only thing it does is silence the IT guys.
As someone who worked in cybersecurity, amd left because the whole field is just snake-oil amd scam, I totally get you. The field is not for anyone who actually cares about security. It took me few years of trying to realize that, and I left once I found out, but the truth is... There are mandated check-lists and standarts. There's a box for every PC having an AV. There's a box saying that "this app is pen-tested yearly by someone with a pentest certification", or " the company is using a certified communicatiom channel". It does not say that you have to fix the things they found in the pentest. It does not ask whether the "certified platform" is selling your data, or is owned by US, or not. The whole field is just a bunch of extremely annoying checkboxes for company to deal with, and doing it well is actually an annoyance, and they are willing to pay extra so they don't have to do that. I've seen the same critical vulnerabity repeating for 5 years in each yearly pentest, because the checkbox for ISO just says they do the test. Ot sucks. But I see where is MS going with this. Ot's exactly for this - to have an easy way how to fill the checkbox of "you have certified AV on every device". |
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Tja
programming.dev
Tja@programming.dev Joined: 2023-12-18 |
My company has a "yOu neeD a ViRusscaNNer on YoUr BYOd" (even on Linux) I installed clamAV. The only thing it does is silence the IT guys.
As a former it guy... We just enforce what someone in the chain came up with. |
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wltr
discuss.tchncs.de
wltr@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-10-26 |
No problemo, emacs has you covered with evil mode, so you can use vim keybindings in emacs.
I tried that, and it was incredibly slow for me. I tried to use eMacs because of the org mode, but eventually I gave up and returned to markdown and vim. I think you need a good understanding of why would you want to have eMacs with vim keybindings. Perhaps that’s super useful for someone, but I just gave up for now. Tried what I thought the opposite side is, Helix. Didn’t work for me either. I’m with vim for now, may reconsider at some later point, when I’d have more resources to learn and explore. |
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django
discuss.tchncs.de
django@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-05 |
I tried that, and it was incredibly slow for me. I tried to use eMacs because of the org mode, but eventually I gave up and returned to markdown and vim. I think you need a good understanding of why would you want to have eMacs with vim keybindings. Perhaps that’s super useful for someone, but I just gave up for now. Tried what I thought the opposite side is, Helix. Didn’t work for me either. I...
What exactly was slow? For me it was the natural choice to use evil, since I used vim before. The biggest change was not opening and closing the editor all the time, as i did with vim. You just keep emacs open and if you absolutely need a terminal, you open one in emacs. |
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wltr
discuss.tchncs.de
wltr@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-10-26 |
What exactly was slow? For me it was the natural choice to use evil, since I used vim before. The biggest change was not opening and closing the editor all the time, as i did with vim. You just keep emacs open and if you absolutely need a terminal, you open one in emacs.
Opening was very slow: instant vs maybe 30 sec sometimes. I won’t recall. I agree, a new tool may want a different perspective and use patterns. So I don’t blame it, just I initially thought it would be the same thing, as it’s evil mode, but realised I need to invest more into the setup, and I had no resources for that at the time. May try again later. |
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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
VScodium exists
There's also KATE and a few other editors running natively on your PC rather than in a browser... |
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