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RidderSport feddit.org ![]() RidderSport@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-24 |
Two billion across the whole country isn't all that much, especially considering how bonkers property evaluations are.
Compared to anual damages caused by climate change 2 billion is relatively small too. And the gap will widen every passing year, but that doesn't bother the majority. |
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Doc_Crankenstein slrpnk.net Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net Joined: 2025-01-08 |
Confidently wrong. There are different kinds of anarchism, and yours might be fundamentally oppositional to capitalism. But to deny the existence of anarcho-capitalists is counterproductive, because they exist, and they're a serious threat to be aware of. The idea is that in an anarchist society, there's no governing body to regulate businesses, and so they get to do whatever they want. It resu...
Yes, because it is neo-feudalism trying to wear the label of Anarchism. That doesn't mean it is Anarchism. By your logic, "National Socialism" is a socialist philosophy because it calls itself socialism. Which is an utterly stupid thing to claim. |
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Tango piefed.ca Tango@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-04-20 |
I dunno man, there are some who ONLY operate under the Marxist definition of "Liberal". They don't believe language evolves and that maybe to most people "Liberal" is the term used to describe anyone with progressive ideals.
The word "liberal" is useless because there is no consensus on what it means. Similarly useless are the words "left" and "right". "Marxist" is still useful because nobody can deny that it denotes adherence to the ideas of Karl Marx. Similarly, even though people TRY to erode its meaning, "Christian" must ultimately mean adherence to the philosophies espoused by Christ. So for example anyone who identifies as "Christian" but makes no attempt to follow the principles he espoused, is simply lying. |
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AItoothbrush lemmy.zip AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Exactly? People get a lot of shit here in europe too but you still do it. Thats exactly the point of a protest, to raise awareness |
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Leonardo_da_Vinci lemmy.world Leonardo_da_Vinci@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
Americana’s will only do shit that doesn’t inconvenience them. Which pretty much rules out any and all meaningful protest. They’ll gather in streets, sure. But the moment it comes at a cost- they’re far too busy. This happens because they slept. And it got worse because they refused to wake up.
That happens because they are not low educated savages with open borders. |
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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
Always with the "liberals".
"liberal" here, smash that storefront for me I have to go to work thanks 👍 |
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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
They don't learn that part during their tankie training
Where's that tankie factory anyways? They must come from somewhere |
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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
Nah it’s a leftist thing. Liberals are centrists who maintain the status quo and at best ask for “reforms” without substantially wanting to change the underlying system. They think improvements like ranked choice voting would make capitalism magically end poverty and inequality. That if a few more people benefit from social programs, that you can overlook the others still suffering because it’s...
This worked in some places with social market economy and such. |
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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
There is no such thing as "anarcho-capitalist" Anarchism is fundamentally oppositional to capitalism.
These tend to be libertarians from Texas or something. You are right though |
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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz ![]() wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-12-31 |
It results in a neofeudal corporate oligarchy Yes, because it is neo-feudalism trying to wear the label of Anarchism. That doesn't mean it is Anarchism. By your logic, "National Socialism" is a socialist philosophy because it calls itself socialism. Which is an utterly stupid thing to claim.
I never said what it calls itself is an accurate description, only that there are people who claim it |
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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
French police trace their roots to sending Jews to Germany, just fyi
And drowning north Africans and such |
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LittleBorat3 lemmy.world LittleBorat3@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
They should make him eat there |
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LifeInMultipleChoice lemmy.world LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
I am a leftist. I'm telling you they call everyone liberals. They even call Trump a liberal. Liberals are moderate conservatives, a.k.a. Establishment Democrats. And then you have the GOP, which consists of extreme right Fascists, so far right they're practically the antisis of liberal. There is no dominant centrist or leftist party in the United States. The closest we have in office are AOC an...
Leftists often call them liberal because many of them use the term to define one who believes in Liberalism. "Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property, and equality before the law." Thus anyone who is liberal believes in the right to private property. MAGA strongly believes in such. No leftist believes in such. Thus in their use, a leftist cannot be a liberal. It's just a different usage of a term based on cultural differences. |
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menas lemmy.wtf menas@lemmy.wtf Joined: 2023-11-10 |
Hate to break it to you but the same is true in France. Media coverage here has focused almost exclusively on small shops being looted. The human brain has a much easier time focusing on individual tragedies rather than systemic issues, and the government and its cronies (and the local versions of fox news) are taking full advantage of that bias.
Less a "human brain" focus than a main media focus |
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Dr. Moose lemmy.world drmoose@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Petite bourgeois are still the bourgeois. Lives matter more than your fucking property.
Demented tankie delusion |
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cowboydan quokk.au cowboydan@quokk.au Joined: 2026-01-13 |
Where's that tankie factory anyways? They must come from somewhere
.ml mostly |
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Simon_Shitewood lemmy.ml Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-04-19 |
There is also the gun factor. Self defense is not generally accepted as a reason to own a gun in France, so there is no self defense carry. That automatically makes the cops less likely to react suddenly and violently.
Truly spoken like someone who knows nothing of European policing. CRS resort to violence as the priority solution to all of their problems, the French just understand that fighting the cops is an inherent part of fighting for your rights. |
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SmileyRiley slrpnk.net SmileyRiley@slrpnk.net Joined: 2025-03-07 |
The 2020 BLM protests were hardly some small, isolated incident involving a little property damage. The unrest caused more than $2 billion in insured property losses across the United States, making it the costliest civil-disorder event in U.S. insurance history at the time. The unrest spread across more than 20 states and affected communities nationwide. Whatever your political position, prete...
I think other replies describe why this is a terrible approach to looking at a movement, but you mentioned insured property loses and I couldnt help but wonder if the protests actually did any damage to insurance companies (unfortunately they didnt take even a dime). Private U.S. property/casualty insurers’ made more in 2020 than 2019 in net underwriting gains (difference between net premiums and any claims and other insurance-related expenses)
https://www.verisk.com/490445/siteassets/media/downloads/insuranceresultsreport2020fullyear.pdf |
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FlyingCircus lemmy.world FlyingCircus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-08 |
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This is why riots without organization are just as ignorable as nonviolent protests without organization. Neither threaten the power of the state because there is no power in individual acts. |
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Dettweiler lemmy.dbzer0.com Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-07-20 |
I feel like the most effective form of protest will make life miserable for the people causing the problems, rather than making life miserable for the people affected by the problem. I'm not really thinking about the protests in France, though. I'm thinking about all the times in my area when highways have been shut down by people wanting police reform, and it feels like nothing has changed. Granted, when this was happening on a nationwide basis, we got body cams for most police departments, and that's created a lot of accountability. |
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FlyingCircus lemmy.world FlyingCircus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-08 |
That happens because they are not low educated savages with open borders.
Americans are some of the most politically and historically ignorant people you’ll ever meet, and it’s mostly because they’re fed equal measures of treats and propaganda by their capitalist overlords. |
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lightnsfw reddthat.com lightnsfw@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
I'd be fine with burning down the government buildings and harassing politicians who're responsible for the problems. I don't see a point in destroying regular people's jobs or the places they're going to purchase the things they need. It's not going to get people on your side. |
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Dettweiler lemmy.dbzer0.com Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-07-20 |
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We need more tractors with slurry wagons spraying the houses of politicians. |
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ChonkyOwlbear lemmy.world ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-24 |
the cops less likely to react suddenly and violently. Truly spoken like someone who knows nothing of European policing. CRS resort to violence as the priority solution to all of their problems, the French just understand that fighting the cops is an inherent part of fighting for your rights.
Are they this quick to resort to lethal violence though?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/video-shows-chicago-teen-wasnt-holding-a-gun-when-shot-by-cop |
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j_elgato leminal.space j_elgato@leminal.space Joined: 2024-08-08 |
Knock off all this fascism! Seriously, don't make us slowly walk around downtown in a slowly circle again... |
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lenabee lemmy.blahaj.zone lenabee@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-08-17 |
I'd be fine with burning down the government buildings and harassing politicians who're responsible for the problems. I don't see a point in destroying regular people's jobs or the places they're going to purchase the things they need. It's not going to get people on your side.
If normal people can't work because of government decisions, hey just go vote. If normal people can't work because of a protest about government decisions, oh no let's stop all of this! |
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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
This is why riots without organization are just as ignorable as nonviolent protests without organization. Neither threaten the power of the state because there is no power in individual acts.
The french have riots and gillotines. Americans have the 2A. The fact there isn't more Brian Thompsons is astounding. Crazy that some lib-cuck-fag (used ironically!) is America's biggest patriot. |
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MortUS lemmy.world MortUS@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-19 |
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Small business owners are not just fucking McDonalds franchises. Some are cafe owners, boardgame store owners, IT companies. These are not slave labor organizations but small teams of people working together in a system that demands capital to survive. They're absolutely pivotal because they often can provide services at better rates for their community, or are social hubs without needing to spend capital. They absolutely are pivotal because they can teach people trades while earning for a living. They absolutely are pivotal because they're not greedy corpos trying to extract every ounce of capital from their community, they're most regular ass people looking to just get by. They usually provide fair wages to their small teams so they can also survive. They provide direct alternatives to buying from big box corporations or ordering off Amazon, Temu, or whatever bullshit online megastore. Some source their product organically and some wholesale. Do you not go to social gathers like boardgame groups or outings? Do you not travel at all? Your worldview is extremely narrow. |
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lightnsfw reddthat.com lightnsfw@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
If normal people can't work because of government decisions, hey just go vote. If normal people can't work because of a protest about government decisions, oh no let's stop all of this!
What is the government doing that's preventing people from working? |
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ZombiFrancis sh.itjust.works ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-24 |
Knock off all this fascism! Seriously, don't make us slowly walk around downtown in a slowly circle again...
It is one of the more proven methods to onramp liberals to leftism, at any rate. |
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theparadox lemmy.world theparadox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-31 |
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For some, sure. For others I think a good part of it is the fear of doing shit that will negatively impact others like them. I am in a position of privilege and can afford the inconveniences, but what effective act could I take that wouldn't result in making the lives of numerous other people tip out of balance and potentially cause them or their dependents to become unhoused or go without food or medicine? For the average person, living has become more and more precarious. We have fewer and fewer safety nets and the rich are quick to make those they have power over feel the pain of resistance first. We have no guarantee of healthcare, less and less food assistance, unaffordable childcare, poor elder care. All purposely done by the capitalist class. This has created a human shield around them. It's like the only options are indirectly accelerationist. Cause unavoidable collateral damage, blame those at the top, and hope it inspires those at the bottom to act instead of turn on you? I don't like that. |
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Communist lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ![]() communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz Joined: 2024-07-06 |
it ain't the same guys saying both. |
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thespcicifcocean lemmy.world thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-01-13 |
What is the government doing that's preventing people from working?
Wrecking the economy |
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NotAnOtter lemmus.org NotAnOtter@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-09-26 |
it ain't the same guys saying both.
Goomba fallacy |
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ShinkanTrain lemmy.ml ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-06-13 |
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It's a flash mob |
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IamMoonPie lemmy.world IamMoonPie@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-09 |
What is the government doing that's preventing people from working?
Have you been living under a rock sir? |
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Zibitee lemmy.world Zibitee@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-11-15 |
All these people saying that Americans can't protest forget that we literally host hometown hero Luigi. Arguably the best way to get the message across. Needs more consistency, but It's certainly effective. |
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zoloftt lemmy.world zoloftt@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Americans are some of the most politically and historically ignorant people you’ll ever meet, and it’s mostly because they’re fed equal measures of treats and propaganda by their capitalist overlords.
Compared to who? Not poking particularly at you, but there are a lot of people (including you) making pretty broad generalizations. |
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Uriel238 [all pronouns] lemmy.blahaj.zone ![]() uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-25 |
Um, all BLM has to do is wear merch and hold up a sign and the police start lobbing CS grenades. The point of protest isn't to riot, but to get the state to over-respond, brutally. Its why the entire world knows about and sympathizes with the BLM cause. At least that's the game, according to COIN. Hearts and minds. Though in the Civil Rights movement, we added lawsuits. And Trump and the red states are quick with their riot squads. Left wing movements just have to represent and make booga-booga faces to trigger anti-riot shooting civilians with rubber bullets. (They're plastic and steel, actually.) And then two years later, the victims are awarded millions from the districts or the US treasury, depending on the department of the officer who decided it was time to bust heads. Law enforcement in the US has already lost its legitimacy in the public eye, worldwide. We know they're just thugs of the state, and their response to protest, especially minority protest, especially black protest, figures largely into that paradigm shift. So, just because protesters in the US still carry signs instead of molotovs, doesn't mean the protests are weak. It means the state's responsers are incredibly easily trolled into initiating violence while camers are watching. |
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zoloftt lemmy.world zoloftt@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-04 |
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You seem to think a lot of people who own a single home are using it to profit... You are targeting your fellow working class man instead of the people you are angry at. |
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psycholocomotor_no2 lemmy.blahaj.zone psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-10-10 |
Um, all BLM has to do is wear merch and hold up a sign and the police start lobbing CS grenades. The point of protest isn't to riot, but to get the state to over-respond, brutally. Its why the entire world knows about and sympathizes with the BLM cause. At least that's the game, according to COIN. Hearts and minds. Though in the Civil Rights movement, we added lawsuits. And Trump and the red st...
The point of protesting is not to provoke the state to kill you so that people will watch it. |
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lightnsfw reddthat.com lightnsfw@reddthat.com Joined: 2023-08-15 |
Wrecking the economy
And looting and burning businesses in your community is going to fix that? |
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doingthestuff lemy.lol doingthestuff@lemy.lol Joined: 2024-11-01 |
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psycholocomotor_no2 lemmy.blahaj.zone psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-10-10 |
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What kind of brainrot is this? |
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psycholocomotor_no2 lemmy.blahaj.zone psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-10-10 |
This worked in some places with social market economy and such.
Social democracies in the West also benefit from being imperialist. |
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psycholocomotor_no2 lemmy.blahaj.zone psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-10-10 |
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Philosophical liberals. Right to private property and engage in commerce, individualist, idealist, legalist ethics liberals. |
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psycholocomotor_no2 lemmy.blahaj.zone psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-10-10 |
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Because the Marxist version of liberals still call themselves liberals and have intentionally erased the semantic existence of all ideologies left of them so that they can pretend to be the left. |
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FlyingCircus lemmy.world FlyingCircus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-08 |
Compared to who? Not poking particularly at you, but there are a lot of people (including you) making pretty broad generalizations.
For one, compared to almost anyone in the global south who live the brutal reality of American politics. |
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anewfox lemmy.zip anewfox@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-07 |
All these people saying that Americans can't protest forget that we literally host hometown hero Luigi. Arguably the best way to get the message across. Needs more consistency, but It's certainly effective.
a lot of people somehow missed the fact that luigi's actions worked to force change immediately. "somehow" as in the media kept that part quiet as best they could. |
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Sharkticon lemmy.zip Sharkticon@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-21 |
Well yeah liberals value property more than human life. That's been true for all of liberalism. I'd say it's the core tenet of liberalism. For liberalism private property is the most sacred belief they have. |
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