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kunaltyagi programming.dev kunaltyagi@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
It's still used because momentum is a powerful factor. That doesn't make PHP better, but it can make it a more expedient choice. PHP is a preprocessor that grew too big for its britches. It's a monolithic monster that runs only one thread per request in an interpreter. It works well enough if you need to manage the data of an internet forum, but it becomes increasingly unsuitable as the task's ...
"one thread per request" , "interpreter" (Looks confusingly) That's JS and Python as well PS: being obtuse on purpose, but PHP lends itself well to typical requirements of web hosting and you can always call out to a diff process if needed |
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whoisearth lemmy.ca ![]() whoisearth@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Also missing: React Node.js Vue.js Spring boot Ajax jQuery Probably like 15 others I'm forgetting
jQuery still won't die eh? As much as I hate php, JavaScript is an equal pile of shit when it comes to languages. |
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[object Object] lemmy.world SlurpingPus@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-11-03 |
yeah everyone elses experience is invalid.
Npm/yarn are absolute horseshit. See? Node is just as bad as Python now. |
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Magnum, P.I. infosec.pub ![]() Magnum@infosec.pub Joined: 2025-12-31 |
PHP is a woman? π³
I did not have any sexual relation with this woman! |
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spacegoat lemmy.world spacegoat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-28 |
PHP is dead. Learn PHP. |
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HerbGrower slrpnk.net HerbGrower@slrpnk.net Joined: 2026-07-09 |
It's still used because momentum is a powerful factor. That doesn't make PHP better, but it can make it a more expedient choice. PHP is a preprocessor that grew too big for its britches. It's a monolithic monster that runs only one thread per request in an interpreter. It works well enough if you need to manage the data of an internet forum, but it becomes increasingly unsuitable as the task's ...
Fair, but a lot of sites don't need anything more complex than an internet forum, often less than even that. |
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π Alexander Daychilde π lemmy.world ![]() daychilde@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
PHP is a woman? π³
Please don't pretend to misunderstand. I was quite clear everyone can use what they want. You're not funny. Just tiring. |
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expletivedeleted lemmy.zip expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-09-13 |
Learn asp.net? Bro, are you still running edge in IE mode in the 20's? Ruby on rails? That was a recommendation in like 06. /sardonic I am not defending php, but it can serve a purpose. Surprised they didn't mention perl. Also surpised they are comparing PHP to JS. That's comparing cattle farming to cooking a burger. |
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RedFrank24 piefed.social RedFrank24@piefed.social Joined: 2025-12-11 |
.Net has been chugging along quite nicely for decades now. |
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RedFrank24 piefed.social RedFrank24@piefed.social Joined: 2025-12-11 |
When I was a wee high school kid, asp.net was windows only back then and getting cheap windows hosting was harder than it was getting cheap linux hosting, so I focused on PHP more. I haven't touched it in forever, but its probably still good, right?
Asp.net is a bit old hat these days, but Blazor is pretty cool, though personally I don't know many people that use it. .Net is very much good now though. |
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slazer2au lemmy.world slazer2au@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
.Net has been chugging along quite nicely for decades now.
And |
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SkaveRat discuss.tchncs.de SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Or, if you spin it another way: you could've picked up the skills to develop for and support various frameworks, or get stuck in a rut for 30 years with just a single antiquated server-side language.
You realize that the language evolved over the years and it's not even close to the same language it was 15 years ago? The fact that you also mix frameworks and languages also tells me that you have no idea what you're talking about |
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ZILtoid1991 lemmy.world ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
Time traveler: Moves a chair The resulting timeline: PHP is dead for good. However, after some vibe coding caused massive errors in the ADSF framework (that replaced PHP), people are running to vibecode a fix, only to that cause another issue. |
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LumpyPancakes piefed.social ![]() BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social Joined: 2025-03-20 |
The prophecy predicts there will be exactly four major cyber incidents this week.
4 is the key. Literally. |
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glimse lemmy.world glimse@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
"well...it's too late now" Why is that written on an Office Space screenshot? That doesn't make any sense. It's not even close to anything said in that scene. Why do people insist on shoving memes into everything? Did they not think their post was good enough on its own? |
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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-11-14 |
Time traveler: Moves a chair The resulting timeline: PHP is dead for good. However, after some vibe coding caused massive errors in the ADSF framework (that replaced PHP), people are running to vibecode a fix, only to that cause another issue.
Oh my gosh if I could time travel and prevent generative AI from happening I would do it so fast. Although I do want to keep the academic and medical usage domains of AI. π€ HMM. |
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BoofStroke sh.itjust.works ![]() knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-12-20 |
Perl + Mason |
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Funkt4st1c lemmy.world Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-07-30 |
"well...it's too late now" Why is that written on an Office Space screenshot? That doesn't make any sense. It's not even close to anything said in that scene. Why do people insist on shoving memes into everything? Did they not think their post was good enough on its own?
Memes are funny because its a reference to a thing we both know and thus an inside joke elevated by that fact. Modern ones are either that, or kind of just "heres a funny picture with text thats kind of funny next to this picture" |
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palordrolap fedia.io palordrolap@fedia.io Joined: 2024-08-13 |
Learn asp.net? Bro, are you still running edge in IE mode in the 20's? Ruby on rails? That was a recommendation in like 06. /sardonic I am not defending php, but it can serve a purpose. Surprised they didn't mention perl. Also surpised they are comparing PHP to JS. That's comparing cattle farming to cooking a burger.
That's because Perl pre-dates PHP and was one of the languages that inspired it. You'd have to rewrite the whole meme. |
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MangoCats feddit.it MangoCats@feddit.it Joined: 2025-02-05 |
I have lots of experience with node and a little with python. Python seems great for working with large data sets and I really like jupyter notebooks. The available libraries are really great. However, the thought of installing a Python CLI app makes me twitchy. I suspect that node has all the same problems and that I'm used to working around them, but all the Python environment stuff is a nigh...
The available libraries are the ONLY excuse for Python. When you need tools more sophisticated (and labor intense) than your tool to make your tool functional, it's time to re-examine your choice of toolchain. |
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MangoCats feddit.it MangoCats@feddit.it Joined: 2025-02-05 |
iykyk
Just stand up a VM to do it in, so you don't corrupt anything else you made in python that you also want to run on the same box, amirite? |
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TheFrirish tarte.nuage-libre.fr ![]() TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr Joined: 2025-11-16 |
PHP for the GOAT |
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MangoCats feddit.it MangoCats@feddit.it Joined: 2025-02-05 |
Python environment/packaging sucks, but at least the language itself doesn't.
I learned basic programming in BASIC in the 80s. Back then when you needed more speed, you grafted in assembly calls, and the speed difference was dramatic. Straight Python feels as slow as BASIC - it's got nifty speedy library calls to stuff written in other languages, but if you need something that's not available in a library, now you're writing a library function for Python, in another language, and why not just write the whole thing in that other language and ditch the heavy toolchain? |
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Ftumch lemmy.today Ftumch@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-02-13 |
So, you could have programmed happily in php for 30 years, or jump on the new bandwagon every other year? compelling argument.
While the language has improved over the years, I've personally never seen a PHP codebase that made me happy. |
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expletivedeleted lemmy.zip expletivedeleted@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-09-13 |
Surprised they didn't mention perl. That's because Perl pre-dates PHP and was one of the languages that inspired it. You'd have to rewrite the whole meme.
Agreed, they should hit a goto 10 line. /being silly Your point is quite valid. |
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Denys Nykula piefed.social nykula@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-04 |
I can't remember the last time there was a vulnerability like this. There have been, but it's been quite a while. Feel free to use what you want, like what you want, but man, it just feels like when a woman gains political power and people come out of the WOODWORK to suddenly have problems with women in power. And I mean, people are absolutely bigoted against PHP. Is it worthy of criticism? It ...
Anecdotally yes, web development is the part of IT where I saw more women than elsewhere. It's also paid less, heavily disrespected and more prone to burnout, the closer you are to the front end. I don't know if it's a correlation or causation (existing social hierarchies etc) thing. |
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glimse lemmy.world glimse@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-07 |
Memes are funny because its a reference to a thing we both know and thus an inside joke elevated by that fact. Modern ones are either that, or kind of just "heres a funny picture with text thats kind of funny next to this picture"
How does the picture make it funnier here? I don't think I'll ever understand the affinity for it. It's the Internet equivalent of that annoying kid in middle school who couldn't have a conversation without quoting The Simpsons or South Park lol |
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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com ![]() Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-11-13 |
This is (also) about C++. |
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criss_cross lemmy.world criss_cross@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-17 |
A remote code execution exploit in PHP was discovered. Many websites around the world decided to shut down until it got patched. Itβs one of the most severe security incidents of this week.
Damn I canβt believe I missed that. I saw the eMuhdra one but missed this. Gotta start my rss feed project again and start getting news. |
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zod000 lemmy.dbzer0.com zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-12 |
Everyone has forgotten java applets+ java servlets combo. I have no idea why it didn't survive, but if it would have, it'd defeated PHP (in amount of vulnerabilities ofc)
I was told in school that Java applets were the future and they made us take a class that focused heavily on them. I did make a few games in applets, but they were always janky and I am glad they are dead. |
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daddycool lemmy.world daddycool@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
And COBAL COBOL just won't die.
It better not. I've invested all my money in it. |
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Landless2029 lemmy.world Landless2029@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-23 |
.Net has been chugging along quite nicely for decades now.
I blame Microsoft for that |
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Lyricism6055 lemmy.world Lyricism6055@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-21 |
Node is the only JS framework out of these that could 1:1 replace PHP, Vue.js, jQuery and Ajax (aka vanilla JS) are all clientside which PHP doesn't do at all, Bootstrap is a CSS library and Spring is Java. That said, clientside JS is usually an anti-user mess and both you and the user are usually better off not using it at all.
Would rust have prevented this? π€£ |
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ElDuderino lemmus.org ElDuderino@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-08-13 |
In reply to an earlier post
With lots of $ |
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DacoTaco lemmy.world ![]() DacoTaco@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-16 |
.Net has been chugging along quite nicely for decades now.
As backend code, yes. As a web (web, not api. As an api platform they're great) platform... No. |
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stevestevesteve lemmy.world stevestevesteve@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
And COBAL COBOL just won't die.
COBOL* |
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stevestevesteve lemmy.world stevestevesteve@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
And if everything had moved to one of those, almost surely there would also be similar impacts in a similar cve to point at to say "we should be using something else!" |
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Tja programming.dev Tja@programming.dev Joined: 2023-12-18 |
I have good news, all frontend php has been replaced with angular by now. |
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HeHoXa lemmy.zip HeHoXa@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-08 |
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slazer2au lemmy.world slazer2au@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
COBOL*
Stupid phone |
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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Oh my gosh if I could time travel and prevent generative AI from happening I would do it so fast. Although I do want to keep the academic and medical usage domains of AI. π€ HMM.
Need to go back and convince Alan Turing to change his test. |
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hayvan piefed.world hayvan@piefed.world Joined: 2025-12-06 |
I was told in school that Java applets were the future and they made us take a class that focused heavily on them. I did make a few games in applets, but they were always janky and I am glad they are dead.
Applets were killed by Flash, which then became obsolete. |
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zod000 lemmy.dbzer0.com zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-12 |
Applets were killed by Flash, which then became obsolete.
Applets were killed before that due to repeated severe security issues and Sun fucking around and not making them good in my recollection. Flash was just easiest applets with no Java and died for much of the same reason a decade later. |
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cub Gucci lemmy.today vivalapivo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-15 |
I was told in school that Java applets were the future and they made us take a class that focused heavily on them. I did make a few games in applets, but they were always janky and I am glad they are dead.
I had to remove the applet-based server architecture when moving java 11->17. The authors thought that it would be the right decision to accept code from users as applets |
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zod000 lemmy.dbzer0.com zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-12 |
I had to remove the applet-based server architecture when moving java 11->17. The authors thought that it would be the right decision to accept code from users as applets
That's both hilarious and scary. Scarlarious, if you will. |
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cub Gucci lemmy.today vivalapivo@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-15 |
That's both hilarious and scary. Scarlarious, if you will.
Now comes the scariest part. We removed this in early 2024 |
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GeirGrusom lemmy.world GeirGrusom@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-21 |
The available libraries are the ONLY excuse for Python. When you need tools more sophisticated (and labor intense) than your tool to make your tool functional, it's time to re-examine your choice of toolchain.
Yeah, Python as a language is a mess IMO. We used it for making a electrical simulator and the language is...bad. The variable scoping, lack of explicit variable declaration, backwards comprehension syntax, the VERY CONFUSING object orientation design, that classes aren't serializable by default, package story and deployment... It really has very little going for it, and combine all that with the awful performance characteristics it's just...no. Today I'm "Rust if it fits, if not Rust then C#". We re-wrote the simulator in C# and performance was 70x better and the code got shorter, the deployment was hell of a lot easier since we went AOT and it just builds a native binary for the target platform. No virtual environment crap. |
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Aatube lemmy.dbzer0.com ![]() Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Yeah, Python as a language is a mess IMO. We used it for making a electrical simulator and the language is...bad. The variable scoping, lack of explicit variable declaration, backwards comprehension syntax, the VERY CONFUSING object orientation design, that classes aren't serializable by default, package story and deployment... It really has very little going for it, and combine all that with t...
Python is very opinionated. I like it (other than the stupid ternary operator) but I can very much see why others don't. (At the same time I will fight for it. It's like the GNOME of programming languages.) |
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Aatube lemmy.dbzer0.com ![]() Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-06-18 |
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I notice the absolute absence of |
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GeirGrusom lemmy.world GeirGrusom@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-21 |
Python is very opinionated. I like it (other than the stupid ternary operator) but I can very much see why others don't. (At the same time I will fight for it. It's like the GNOME of programming languages.)
Yeah, the fact that so much of the language is conventions as well doesn't help. The type hinting is fairly poor as well, but then again type hinting is basically admitting that dynamic typing is a mistake (which it is). |
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