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Master
sh.itjust.works
Master@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Unless those rumors are true and they did manage to game enough voting machines to clinch the election. In which case he was not actually elected twice…
Its not the general votes that matter. Its the electoral college. So even if they cheated he was still elected twice. |
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join
lemmy.ml
join@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-04-16 |
Souverän ist, wer über den Ausnahmezustand entscheidet. |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
Blue states shouldn't allow him on ballots if such a thing were to happen.
How about January 7th 2021 trump gets arrested and executed for sedition? Oh, is this a purity test to far for the democratic party? Democrats are the cops at Uvalde. Keeping other people from going in and stopping the shooting (complicit alongside the republicans for perpetuating First-past-the-post voting, keeping others from competing against the republicans in the electoral system), yet doing nothing themselves. Sure blue maga, blame those with no representation in government. Whatever makes you sleep at night. |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
The election the Constitution is referring to is the Electoral College, not the general election.
Sounds like the foundation of our Democracy was built on quick sand, and the cement poured by the shadiest cheapest contractor capitalism could buy. |
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badgermurphy
lemmy.world
badgermurphy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-26 |
Term limits are trivial to bypass. Same with limitations based on age or the born citizen requirement. Authoritarians figured this out ages ago. You just get a patsy to run instead. Consider the example of Lurleen Wallace. Her husband, arch-segregationist George Wallace, was term limited per the Alabama constitution. So she ran instead, openly announcing her intention to simply serve as a figur...
I get the plan from your example, but the "figurehead" you've selected in your example is probably not the best choice, as he is from the ethnic group that they believe to be entirely consistent of political operatives bent on controlling the world. I dont know that they would vote for a Jewish person even as a Trump stand-in. They would need to run someone with no discernible ethnic ties to a country other than the US. J.D. Vance is probably that guy; he's so nondescript that he doesn't even have a whole name. |
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Smoogs
lemmy.world
Smoogs@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
if he can run so can obama. |
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freely1333
reddthat.com
freely1333@reddthat.com Joined: 2025-01-31 |
Honestly, I support it. It'll be like the election of 1912 where Roosevelt and Taft split the Republican vote enough that the Democrat Wilson was elected.
Why would any Republican run against him? |
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badgermurphy
lemmy.world
badgermurphy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-26 |
Depends how much power he can consolidate between now and election time. Trump brags about telling the DOJ to sue Alaska over election results. He could run and then do another J6 then use whoever shows up as a personal standing army, arming the loyalists and refusing to leave the Whitehouse for the actual winner. I'm sure the ballroom bunker will be built by then.
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Colonel_Panic_
eviltoast.org
Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org Joined: 2025-07-02 |
They should, eya. Just like they should have kept him off in 2024, since he was already ineligible as an insurrectionist. but only a handful of states actually tried. funny how that worked.
I've been screaming that for years. He shouldn't even be president NOW!! He is an illegal and illegitimate president. He violated the constitution and our laws and was never cleared of those crimes and yet holds public office. But hey, he also violates every other law or rule we have so no biggie, right? |
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Colonel_Panic_
eviltoast.org
Colonel_Panic_@eviltoast.org Joined: 2025-07-02 |
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice Those are the exact words of the 22nd amendment. It's explicit. There's no ambiguity or room for other interpretations. Trump was elected twice, he's hit his limit, that's it.
Sure, but we didn't enforce the 14th amendment section 3, which clearly states that he shouldn't be president currently. No one enforced our laws, so we have NO LAWS. Which means, he can just run for president again and if no one enforced the law then it could happen again. I agree with you on the law, but NO ONE IS ENFORCING ANY LAWS LATELY!!!! So what the fuck does any of it even matter anymore? Hmm? |
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cy888
lemmy.world
cy888@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-11 |
I bet in his third term he will definitely release the Epstein files right guys?
He will also release his tax returns. |
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AdolfSchmitler
lemmy.world
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
And the 4th and the 5th time
No chance he lives that long |
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Jiral
lemmy.world
Jiral@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-06 |
Term limits are trivial to bypass. Same with limitations based on age or the born citizen requirement. Authoritarians figured this out ages ago. You just get a patsy to run instead. Consider the example of Lurleen Wallace. Her husband, arch-segregationist George Wallace, was term limited per the Alabama constitution. So she ran instead, openly announcing her intention to simply serve as a figur...
It is not trivial. Of course a precondition is that term limits are absolute, that means no interruption nonsense. You can still have a sock puppet but legally that sock puppet is in power then. That is super dangerous for a fascist regime because betrayal is a real risk then. Putin was also super nervous about it, even if it worked out for him. The main thing about those absolute term limits is however to add friction to the perversion of a democratic constitution. If voters are ready to accept it, it is too late anyway, but it makes it just a bit harder to justify the actions, while the constitution is not completely overthrown yet. |
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rethnor
lemmy.zip
rethnor@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-04-08 |
With his mental decline it is unlikely that he will be in any shape to overturn the constitution and mount a campaign. Then stranger things have happened.
I don't think he's working enough to that anyway, he's incompetent on his own, the people that enable and execute these atrocities are just as much to blame |
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baeb66
lemmy.today
baeb66@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-04-15 |
In the third term, he's gonna lower the price of gas and groceries & end the wars in Ukraine/Iran. Day 1. Bigly.
Don't forget the bestest healthcare plan ever. Aaaaaaaaaany day now. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
if he can run so can obama.
Obama has absolutely no interest in this shit show. That's half the joke of the current state of the Presidency. You need to either be a grifter, a soulless climber, or a senile coot to pursue the job at this point. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Honestly, I support it. It'll be like the election of 1912 where Roosevelt and Taft split the Republican vote enough that the Democrat Wilson was elected.
Democrats ran their modern version of Wilson in 2020. It went about as well as in 1913. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
No chance he lives that long
Trump's going to be kicking it into the triple digits. He and Senator Grassley are going to be tweeting at each other into the election of 2040. |
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chiliedogg
lemmy.world
chiliedogg@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-26 |
And the 4th and the 5th time
The good die young and ducks live forever. |
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SnarkoPolo
lemmy.world
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-08 |
if he can run so can obama.
That's not how it works. The law applies to Democrats, not to the Ruling Party. |
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monkeyslikebananas2
lemmy.world
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-18 |
Why would any Republican run against him?
Seriously the sociopaths (AKA Republicans) are looting the Republic. They couldn’t be happier. |
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SnarkoPolo
lemmy.world
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-08 |
Don't forget the bestest healthcare plan ever. Aaaaaaaaaany day now.
It's a bigly plan, the most beautiful plan. You can't see it, but many people are saying it's the greatest perfect plan ever. |
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SnarkoPolo
lemmy.world
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-08 |
With his mental decline it is unlikely that he will be in any shape to overturn the constitution and mount a campaign. Then stranger things have happened.
But Miller will. |
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SnarkoPolo
lemmy.world
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-08 |
no-one in the usa will enforce the constitution. So maybe just give it to him now because elon is just going to spend a billion to buy it anyway.
This is the most realistic thing I'm going to see this week. And don't forget, there will be no "revolution." Frank Freeway is too busy with mandatory overtime and sports on TV. |
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SnarkoPolo
lemmy.world
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-08 |
If there's still a Constitution by then. |
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cloudshouter
lemmy.zip
cloudshouter@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-01 |
It's a bigly plan, the most beautiful plan. You can't see it, but many people are saying it's the greatest perfect plan ever.
At this point I would vote democratic just to have a president who can speak well. We had a chuckle at the Bushification of the language but 14+ years of it getting worse is just tiresome. |
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Destide
feddit.uk
sirico@feddit.ukJoined: 2023-07-04 |
Impossible it was just a joke last year. You think he would do that setup a horrific violation of Western freedoms as a joke so no one takes it seriously then just full send it? |
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rumimevlevi
sh.itjust.works
rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-01-07 |
No chance he lives that long
With his unhealthy life style he should have died a decade ago |
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maxthemummer
lemmus.org
maxthemummer@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-09-06 |
Who could have predicted back in 2016 that giving this man power would turn him into a despot? |
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VeryVito
lemmy.world
VeryVito@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
he can only shit in the oval office twice We're already way past that.
I count each term as one long, uninterrupted shitstorm. |
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Taldan
lemmy.world
Taldan@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-31 |
there should be riots in the street rn though.
How exactly do you guys think riots would go? Do you think Trump would just say, "guess they don't like me, I'll leave office"? Or do you think he would brutally crack down on everyone against him? Riots would be the casus belli he wants to take military control of the country |
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Sam_Bass
lemmy.world
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-04-08 |
Who could have predicted back in 2016 that giving this man power would turn him into a despot?
anyone with working eyes and ears |
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TimmyDeanSausage
lemmy.world
timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Who could have predicted back in 2016 that giving this man power would turn him into a despot?
Believe it or not, there was actually a small coalition of just a few hundred million people screaming this from their rooftops around the world. If only the maga crowd could've heard their message sooner.. Surely, well presented fact-based arguments would've changed their minds |
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TimmyDeanSausage
lemmy.world
timmy_dean_sausage@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-30 |
Don't forget the bestest healthcare plan ever. Aaaaaaaaaany day now.
If we understand "now" as less of a time stamp, and more of a constantly shifting, meaningless word, it all makes sense. I heard the new healthcare plan is dropping two weeks from "now"! And the Iran war and the genocide in Gaza will end two weeks from "now"! Oh, and Venezuela will be up and running with their new for-US-profit systems two weeks from "now" so we won't have to steal their resources ourselves! Go Trump go! |
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Hogrider
lemmy.world
OleFoFa@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-11 |
Who could have predicted back in 2016 that giving this man power would turn him into a despot?
I do believe his mother said something of the sort. That he should in no way ever enter politics |
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Hogrider
lemmy.world
OleFoFa@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-11 |
If there's still a Constitution by then.
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Hogrider
lemmy.world
OleFoFa@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-11 |
If there's still a Constitution by then.
Narrator: There wouldn't be. |
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Goodlucksil
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-08-15 |
anyone with working eyes and ears
Which turns out to not be a significant minority of the US and A population. |
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Soggy
lemmy.world
Soggy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Who could have predicted back in 2016 that giving this man power would turn him into a despot?
I didn't vote for him, but I was pretty sure that his plan was to hire people to do everything semi-competently so that he could focus on fucking around and enriching himself. That was a very disappointing thing to be wrong about. |
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resipsaloquitur
lemmy.cafe
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2026-04-14 |
In reply to an earlier post
They’ll puppet his bloated corpse until the end of Vance’s term. |
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III
lemmy.world
III@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
Believe it or not, there was actually a small coalition of just a few hundred million people screaming this from their rooftops around the world. If only the maga crowd could've heard their message sooner.. Surely, well presented fact-based arguments would've changed their minds
They heard it. They also know that because you don't agree with them on everything that you are a dirty liberal, and thus everything you say is a lie and you should be in jail. |
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glitch1985
lemmy.world
glitch1985@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-09 |
Obama has absolutely no interest in this shit show. That's half the joke of the current state of the Presidency. You need to either be a grifter, a soulless climber, or a senile coot to pursue the job at this point.
Bonus points for all three? |
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gwl [he/him]
lemmy.blahaj.zone
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-10-16 |
In reply to an earlier post
Ah that'll be where he's trying to get in again then I assume, cause he's not a person, he's a monster |
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gwl [he/him]
lemmy.blahaj.zone
gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-10-16 |
In reply to an earlier post
You forget that he stacked the deck |
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Konala Koala
lemmy.world
KonalaKoala@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-11 |
While reality again invokes claim he has the 'right' to remain silent because anything he says can and will be used against him in a federal court of law. He has the right to a dipshit attorney, but if he cannot afford one or if all of them refuse to represent a despot, one democratic one will be appointed to him to make sure he goes to federal prison. |
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Stormy
thelemmy.club
Stormy@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-02-16 |
How exactly do you guys think riots would go? Do you think Trump would just say, "guess they don't like me, I'll leave office"? Or do you think he would brutally crack down on everyone against him? Riots would be the casus belli he wants to take military control of the country
Idk man. They did fly the army apache over them last time there was a big protest in Tennessee and then that time they did that weird stuff with firing the missiles in Cali. You're right, but something has to change, I think we're supposed to be brave and strong and united instead of shocked daily and then retreating, frightened, back under a rock to safety. |
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smeenz
lemmy.nz
smeenz@lemmy.nz Joined: 2023-07-11 |
They heard it. They also know that because you don't agree with them on everything that you are a dirty liberal, and thus everything you say is a lie and you should be in jail.
I suspect there is a great deal of crossover between maga supporters and flat earthers |
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flop_leash_973
lemmy.world
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-08 |
And a surprisingly (depressingly) large number of law and order preaching conservatives are supportive of him doing it, despite him not being allowed to do that literally being written into the highest legal document in the country. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Bonus points for all three?
Certainly doesn't hurt |
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monotremata
lemmy.ca
monotremata@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-07-01 |
They heard it. They also know that because you don't agree with them on everything that you are a dirty liberal, and thus everything you say is a lie and you should be in jail.
And they knew that only a despot would be willing to actually put political opponents in jail, so they voted for one. But then he turned out to be some kind of despot! |
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