https://c.org/pqgqV6cqCm

Nah, the real petition was the last game.

BioWare hasn’t shown that it has the talent to make quality AAA RPGs in almost 20 years.

Maybe they should have made some lower budget games to give their less experienced developers some much needed feedback and practice in their craft.

Also, their writing has been absolute trash for over 10 years. I’m not sure if their writers even know what good writing is.

They were dealt the live service and Frostbyte cards and had to play them.

That’s why I mention the writing.

That’s separate from gameplay and level design.

Let Mass Effect rest. We had a great trilogy, and you can still play it. There's an Expanse game and that game Exodus coming in the next year that will scratch that itch.

Is that an official link?

A more recognizable one that should end up at the same place:

https://www.change.org/p/savemasseffect

But it can all easily be related. Planned beats or dialogue that didn't work in the engine the way they wanted and had to be rewritten, or worked better in a multiplayer context.

trilogy

Was Mass Effect: Andromeda that bad?

For me, Andromeda couldn't hold my attention. Multiplayer was more fun, but that's only because I cheated a bunch and posted my "accomplishments" in the ME Coop subreddit until they gave me a permaban.

The Mass Effect Trilogy is a completed story. You gotta let it go.

How about a ‘force the sale of the IP’ petition?

Tell that to Microslop with Halo.

Gameplay wise? No, it was loads of fun to play.

However, the animations were terrible even after they "fixed" it.

The writing was terrible, with a generic plot, dialogue that consisted of quippy one-liners and little else, and characters that were shallow and one-dimensional.

And the game was buggy and unstable with multiple CTDs even years after release.

They also worked under the belief of "Bioware magic" (literally what they internally called it) instead of actually having a plan on how to make a game. Their magic was always going to run out.

In a vacuum, it was middling in all aspects and with some terrible technical and artistic issues, but it was okay. But it didn't exist in a vacuum. It didn't live up to the relative success of Inquisition, and was an unworthy successor of the Shepard trilogy.

Personally, I just never played it. Plenty of folks liked it eventually.

I think they could do a spiritual successor that would cost less.
Like, it wouldn’t be that hard to make something similar but legally distinct.

Also, there are 4(?) games that are currently in production by former BioWare or just straight up inspired by ME.

I loved the first three and if this made it to completion I would have checked it out. But ea crushed that studio long ago and the Saudis are looking to cut anything that doesn’t help them get their billions back. Instead of giving them any money for this, I’d rather they lose everything.

I wouldn't mind a standalone rerelease of the multiplayer for PC though.

I don’t see any of their writing in the last decade as anything but tired tropes and juvenile simplistic plots and characters.

Elden Ring’s item descriptions have more depth and character than BioWare’s characters that have endless mind numbing dialogue. I could say the same about the plot.

The company founders left over a decade ago. They weren’t perfect but whatever was left was just IP and not ability.

There was an article at the time of Baldur's Gate 3's release (so 2023) that one of the original writers of BG1 had been laid off, so post-doctors, they still retained writers from whatever you consider to be the good old days.

If the writing needs better direction to write a good story then the writers are not good. Also, 2023 is way past their good old days.

BioWare was good but they always seemed to push more and more into a casual audience while expecting the RPG fanbase to stick around no matter what. They took the RPG fans for granted and now they have other developers to care about.

Dragon Age never got a true gameplay sequel. They didn’t waste a second abandoning that genre in favor of dumbed down throwaway games. I was so pissed off for buying Inquisition on day one after the universal acclaim it got in the press. Absolutely boring fetch quest trash.

Frostbite was a bad card dealt to them.

They dealt the live-service card themselves - They swore over and over that Anthem being a live service was their choice.

The only way to save Mass Effect is releasing it on GOG.

If I'm the manager of BioWare, and my EA bosses put an incentive in front of me to make a live service, then I'd probably make that decision "myself", too.

Oh sweetie, they don't care one bit about a petition

If the IP is sold then he’s not attached.

Kushner isn’t mass effect because he owns the rights at this moment in time.

Also all art is owned by rich pieces of shit who commit evil every day, not just kushner. Not just Harry Potter.

Go ahead and name any one of your favorite things, I’ll Google for 5 minutes and tell you what kind of criminal you’re supporting.

I don't actually care that the new mass effect was canceled.

It's also kinda funny to me that a bunch of people are losing their jobs, and we've got a petition about the unfinished game they were working on.

Yes, we got a perfect ending with the 3rd one and we don’t need more.

A new game would be okay, but at least we got closure..

They would, they could and they are! Planned release date is next year! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_(2027_video_game)

Yes, I think exodus is the front runner of these in both hype and release date. Let’s hope Ohlen’s team put in real work instead of banking on “BioWare magic.”

I honestly felt like a lot of people here, until the other day my friend saw a dev leak a trailer for it and it looked kind of amazing. I would absolutely be down if the game shown was finished as long as it was the same team that was already working on it.

https://youtu.be/qKhLOafhe5I

You attacked my throwaway jab at the end that was really just pointing out what you were doing by saying you don’t want to support kushner.

My argument is that having him sell the ip would mean any future entries sales aren’t involved with him anymore. So that whole argument didn’t amount to anything but you talking at me about something we mostly agree with eachother on.

The glimmer of Hope was that they fired the writers and designers after veilguard

Pretty much every studio making live service trash claimed that it was 100% their decision and that it was the game they always wanted to make since they were a little baby.

No man. Cppitalism demands that you milk it with bullshit plots and gameplay until the market absolutely hates it. Like the Alien and Terminator franchises.

I mean, it clearly didn't, people still somehow want more of it after Andromeda and the company went under.