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It's genuinely fascinating how San Francisco “progresssives” have somehow aligned themselves with the car industry in their opposition to funding mass transit
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Kwerl lemmy.zip lavenie@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-09-28
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Her plan: "Don't punish poor people with taxes to fund transit. Punish poor people by dismantling transit waiting for the perfect funding scheme"

This is literally the exact same playbook billionaires used to kill a transit tax referendum in Nashville:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2018/04/23/koch-brothers-group-begins-ad-blitz-against-nashville-transit-referendum-week-vote/543421002/

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blackbelt352 lemmy.world blackbelt352@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
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But we already have a viable funding scheme, tax the billionaires class. There's no shortage of tech billionaires in Silicon Valley (which is part of San Fancisco) that would be a fantastic source of tax revenue.

Edit: I stand corrected, Silicon Valley is near SF technically not in SF. Still plenty of billionaires there to tax.

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trojanbark lemmy.world trojanbark@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-10-13
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Wow she's fucking stupid

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ChicoSuave lemmy.world ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-12
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But we already have a viable funding scheme, tax the billionaires class. There's no shortage of tech billionaires in Silicon Valley (which is part of San Fancisco) that would be a fantastic source of tax revenue. Edit: I stand corrected, Silicon Valley is near SF technically not in SF. Still plenty of billionaires there to tax.

Tech money sets up shop around SF so they can avoid the big city laws and take advantage of small town politics. Mountain View, Palo Alto, Atherton - all the places the big money goes are places SF can't tax.

SF doesn't have the money people think it does. It struggles to collect from businesses and doesn't want to fuck up what is working in their economy. However the politicians have been convinced that the rich are the pillar of the economy and they don't want to challenge that working economy. None of the politicians actually know how tech makes money but they see the money flowing through tech and kowtow.

The end result is a city that doesn't want to tax the people with all the money and work to keep those super rich happy.

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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
Joined: 2023-08-05
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Sales taxes are regional. If she's talking about a non-regressive tax, it could be funded with a regional $10/gallon fuel tax. That would also encourage public transit usage.

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Jiral lemmy.world Jiral@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
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But we already have a viable funding scheme, tax the billionaires class. There's no shortage of tech billionaires in Silicon Valley (which is part of San Fancisco) that would be a fantastic source of tax revenue. Edit: I stand corrected, Silicon Valley is near SF technically not in SF. Still plenty of billionaires there to tax.

Maybe viable, but it doesn't exist. In the end when PT is getting disfunded it makes no difference what would be theoretically viable. I am all for taxing billionares, that can also replace other fundings anytime but until then it is like shooting yourself in the foot to disfund such critical infrastructure.

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SwingingTheLamp piefed.zip SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-12-27
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If anybody was confused as I was, here's what I found when I looked it up: Yes, a sales tax is a bad idea for transit funding, since it's among the most regressive of taxes. The issue here is that Chun seems to oppose any transit funding source, like the proposed congestion pricing, or bridge tolls.

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ElectricAirship lemmy.dbzer0.com ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-22
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But we already have a viable funding scheme, tax the billionaires class. There's no shortage of tech billionaires in Silicon Valley (which is part of San Fancisco) that would be a fantastic source of tax revenue. Edit: I stand corrected, Silicon Valley is near SF technically not in SF. Still plenty of billionaires there to tax.

You are correct but I just wanted to say silicon valley isn't part of SF, it's about 40 miles south and is part of San Jose and it's surrounding "smaller" cities like Campbell and Santa Clara.

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
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When this dumbass war ends, and 1-2 years from now people realize the gas prices are never coming down, it's really going to fucking suck that THESE assholes got elected.

We should be planning MORE for a carless future, not less, because cars are becoming cost-prohibitive.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
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You are correct but I just wanted to say silicon valley isn't part of SF, it's about 40 miles south and is part of San Jose and it's surrounding "smaller" cities like Campbell and Santa Clara.

It is not part of San Jose. It's near San Jose

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
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Sales taxes are regional. If she's talking about a non-regressive tax, it could be funded with a regional $10/gallon fuel tax. That would also encourage public transit usage.

Fuel tax is highly regressive.

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Steve communick.news Steve@communick.news
Joined: 2023-08-05
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Fuel tax is highly regressive.

No more than any other sales tax, and only while one owns a car. Below that, it stops.

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