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‘Pure arrogance’: anger in Finland as Google illegally fells 250,000 trees for datacentre
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coolmojo lemmy.world coolmojo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#52 · Quote Reply

The finish government should shaft all data centre plans and force Google to plant 250,000 new trees + pay a hefty fine. Something tells me that's not what's gonna happen, though.

Fingers crossed that the fine is 4 million euros per tree.

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dovah lemmy.world dovah@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#53 · Quote Reply

No more corporate fines. It's time for personal accountability.

You can get up to a year in prison for taking down or harming a single public tree not in your property. But 250k?

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SleeplessCityLights programming.dev SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-10-03
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

I work at a tiny old datacenter that employs like 40 people full time. And we have only like 50 racks of servers Do you think the thing just runs itself? You need electrians, hvac specialists, fire system specialists, UPS specialists, on top of all the computer related roles. There are tons of different moving parts It's also one of the best ways to still get into the tech industry because the ...

When I used to work at DCs, the only people that were full time employees were security and maintenance. The rest of us were contractors that would service all of the DCs in a region. Even the guys that ran the hardware would drive around to all of the DCs owned by that operator.

The building I used to work in had more than 40 maintenance, security, and IT people. But 5000 other people worked there and it was the size of the smallest DC. They create very little jobs.

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selokichtli lemmy.ml selokichtli@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-03-20
#55 · (edited) Quote Reply

Didn't the Finnish government make the deal with Google in the first place?

That's what the report says, yes. These assholes wanted Google to invest in their country, they wanted it even more than Trump.

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mirshafie europe.pub mirshafie@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-11-07
#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

You can get up to a year in prison for taking down or harming a single public tree not in your property. But 250k?

Well there's likely a bunch of people responsible so I guess we divide 250k by the sum of perpetrators to figure out for how long we'll keep their rotting corpses in jail.

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Gammelfisch lemmy.world Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-05
#57 · Quote Reply

I work at a tiny old datacenter that employs like 40 people full time. And we have only like 50 racks of servers Do you think the thing just runs itself? You need electrians, hvac specialists, fire system specialists, UPS specialists, on top of all the computer related roles. There are tons of different moving parts It's also one of the best ways to still get into the tech industry because the ...

There is plenty of work when the older Data Centers are gutted for modernization.

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FireWire400 lemmy.world FireWire400@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#58 · Quote Reply

No more corporate fines. It's time for personal accountability.

I have accepted the fact that this is most likely never going to happen

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Drag00n lemmy.zip Drag00n@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-10-13
#59 · Quote Reply

No more corporate fines. It's time for personal accountability.

Yes knock knock it's mr. double ought and mrs. 7.62

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rabber lemmy.ca rabber@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-07-03
#60 · Quote Reply

The people making good money working “at” these datacenters eat at restaurants thousands of miles away from the towns the datacenters are located. There are very few local datacenters jobs and the ones that are local do not make very good money. Big scale high compute datacenters need like 15-30 people to operate, not hundreds.

No the people working at my datacenter eat across the street from the datacenter lol

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Encrypt-Keeper lemmy.world EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

No the people working at my datacenter eat across the street from the datacenter lol

You don’t work at one of these modern AI or hyperscale datacenters, so it’s not super relevant where you eat. I on the other hand eat lunch hundreds of miles away from some of my datacenters, thousands of miles away from the others. The handful of janitors and security that work closer certainly can’t afford to eat at work and are more than likely brown bagging it from home. Because practically everything is automated, everyone else is a contractor and don’t even work for us and so they probably eat wherever it is they actually work.

Those physical rack and stackers certainly don’t work with experienced sysadmins, they get written work orders and they show up, complete them, and leave. There’s no moving up because being rack & stackers is the beginning and end of their career ladder.

It honestly sounds like you just work for some old legacy “datacenter” that’s been around since the late 90’s and is still being run as such, and then extrapolating that to a much bigger modern datacenter and trying to scale up the employees to match but modern datacenters are not run that way. The day to day operations are done mostly external contractors, they aren’t hiring full time employees for this stuff. The few well paying high level jobs go to people hundreds or thousands of miles away, often not to a new person but are just added as an additional site under the workload of an existing team. Everything in the middle is automated.

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Techno-rat lemmy.blahaj.zone tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-08
#62 · Quote Reply

Refugees fleeing the Middle East and Ukraine after decades of war have become an agitation point for easily gulled Finnish isolationists.

Ah fuck feel for you brother. We’re struggling with the same in denmark.

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