nitrogen would also be inhuman, because gas is associated with the gas chambers.

Nurses and docs can make bank doing private practices, no need to risk thier careers and license.

phlebs do require certifications/license, they dont want to get that revoked too.also phlebs are wanted in alot of medical professions, so they arnt exactly large number of them jobless because it requires no college classes like most "Techs".

Abolish the death penalty. The end.
The US clings to practice leading to the largest prison population, the way it clings to its gun policy. Neither are working despite giving it decades to prove itself.

most of the people doing executions arent even trained medical professionals, probably just someone they can convince to do the "injections here or here"

I think they had someone like Gary in mind

Orphan crushing machine moment.

Just abolish the death penalty.

Abolish private prisons. Because there shouldn't be a profit motive involved in housing inmates.

And yes, abolish the death penalty. Because the state can't be trusted to get it right, and it's cheaper to just lock people up for the rest of their lives if necessary.

Eye for an eye isn't bullshit. It's saying to always make sure the punishment is proportional to the crime. Before that you'd get people being punished much more harshly than their crime could possibly justify. We still do, of course, but we used to as well.

This is absolutely true, but i would challenge the assertion about making people throw away good meds being bad for business.

The law passed in 1979 requiring manufacturers to provide an expiration date of when they could guarantee a drug was still safe and fully effective did not require that the manufacturers do any long term tests, to establish accurate dates though. Many companies slapped a one year date on the labels and called it a day.

They could guarantee a year with then current testing protocols and if people had to toss their perfectly good meds and buy more, then that would just be good for company profits.

The US military keeps huge stockpiles of medicines on hand. Faced with throwing away millions of dollars of meds every year they commissioned a study.

With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.

Pharmaceutical companies were happy to tellpeople throw away medicines years before they needed to.

To be fair they aren't really that wrong with their "it's not the guns" meme. Lots of Swiss have guns. They don't have the US problems with gun violence. It really isn't the guns. US citizen are just generally way worse at controlling their anger than other people.

no. only suggesting it not be a state.

While the 'cause of the problem may not be guns, I don't think it's a good idea to give guns to mentally unstable people.

So that leaves us with either just outright banning guns, because americans have proved they aren't mentally stable enough to handle guns, or requiring monthly checkups with a psychologist to make sure they should still be allowed access to guns. At the expense of the gun owner of course. Wouldn't want free mental healthcare for the masses now, that would be unamerican.

Expired pentobarbital likely played a role in the failed execution. Assuming they kept the vials in perfect, dark storage and it's formulated with stabilizers, it could last a long time, many years, but if any of those perfect conditions for pharmaceutical storage aren't met, that time drops to a couple years max. I highly doubt prisons have ideal storage for their lethal injection medication, especially because no ethical medical professional will be involved.

Gonna need a source for that

We have a shortage of helium. Again though, just ban the death penalty. No matter how badly you think someone deserves it, the potential to execute an innocent person should override that. Especially with how our legal system is manipulated.

As I've started above, that doesn't necessarily mean it starts going bad after 30 months.

I think your only agreeing with me.

Did you even read the article? They blew out her veins and never administered it into her blood stream. Her stating that her arm felt like it was on fire and that the administors were having a hard time pushing saline is proof to the fact. It's not designed to kill you if it isn't injected into the blood stream. The old stock 100% had nothing to do with it.

1. 'Shocked' would indicate an electric chair is possible

2. im sure every cell block had 3 or more people that could find a vein in under a minute

We all agree that crazy people should not have guns. In Switzerland there are established ways to take away the guns of crazy people. We don't have that. We have 2a which says shall not be abridged meaning that children get nukes. Fuck 2a.

Most prisons aren't private. The important "but" is that they still contract a ton of processes out to private businesses, yet another way to turn tax dollars into political favors.

The US has a violence problem. We also have lots of guns.

I love guns. I enjoy shooting them, building them, and collecting them. I've got over 50 firearms ranging from a 50-dollar unbranded used 22 to a "I don't really want to think about how much I've spent on this" custom Bergara precision rifle. And of course I have a ton of optics and a few silencers. I also recognize that most of that collection was too easy for me to get, and that if I were unstable or violent I could cause a lot of harm.

I also concede that the pro-2A crowd has a point that registration of firearms is a line they don't want to cross because it's a necessary first step towards mass confiscation.

And with the current political climate, I'm glad the government doesn't know about my guns. If they could look up how many guns I own and that I'm a leftist, how quickly would they label me as an armed enemy of the state?

The guns are a very hard nut to crack, and the political reality is it's almost impossible to restrict them. There's millions of pro-gun single-issue voters and almost no pro-gun-control single-issue voters.

So the more realistic approach is to violence, not gun violence. We do that by making society more equitable, providing social services, free healthcare (including mental health), and worker protections. Keep peope from being driven by desperation into crime and provide mental healthcare to those who need it, and we'll significantly reduce gun violence without doing a thing about guns themselves.

As someone who used to place IVs into neonatal veins, this is fucking atrocious.

Any phlebotomist worth their salt is taught that you NEVER run an IV if it doesn’t flush. That’s literally week one shit!

I disagree with the death penalty in general. But this is just beyond anything I can comprehend. Four separate so called medical specialists just set aside their so called training to torture a woman.

This is deplorable.

If I was a doctor and I successfully administered a fatal dose of sedative to a patient surely that would be malpractice?

Vengeance seems to be a large motivating factor in the entire US penal system. If you completely ignored vengence and were looking for pragmatic solutions to problematic behaviour of your citizens which you wanted to rehabilitate to the extent possible, you'd be looking at the scandinavian approach.

Mind you, I'm not from scandinavia. We could learn a lot from those guys too.

Yes you are right, I was thinking of carbon monoxide not dioxide as yourself and others pointed out.

The US has a violence problem.

The US has an emotional wellbeing and emotional maturity problem.

Medical experts shocked by Tennessee team’s ‘malpractice’ in Christa Pike’s failed execution team . . .

Were you, though? Were you really?

They should be blacklisted from even cleaning a dentist office's toilet. Being anywhere near an execution should be equivalent of having patient SA on their record.